Next Manager Watch

[Yiddo100]

Bring back the WTF emoji !!

It’s still here

 

[thelak]

Nah. I've never understood this idea that Levy "isn't a football man" and "doesn't get it".

The guy knows more about Tottenham Hotspur and football than everyone on this forum put together. He has part-owned a football club for 20 years. He knows it top from bottom. He's there every day. He has signed and sold over a hundred players. He knows and is known by everyone in football. He practically runs the Premier League. He is executive chairman of the European Club Association.

He has hundreds of millions of pounds invested in the club - if you're hurt when we lose, imagine how you'd feel if you were him watching the club you support go down the pan and have a fortune riding on!

If you think you know more about football than him, you're deluding yourself. In fact, it's just utterly laughable to think that you do. You are a fan, I am a fan. We are not in the game in the same way as he is, managers are and players are.

The problem isn't that he "isn't a football man" or "doesn't get it". The problem is that he hasn't been making the right choices and, certainly recently, hasn't been good at the football side of his job.

We need Levy to get a new DoF in who isn't a criminal and is better and who can take the whole lot off him.

Great post

Just goes to show how incompetent Levy is that despite all of the detail you go into about his history….he still knows nothing about football

 

[jackson]

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[InOffMeLeftShin]

There are lot of things to like about Slot. But lets be honest, he will be a big gamble. He could be a Ten Hag or a average Koeman or even worse Frank De Boer

My biggest problem with him is, his lack of experience handling star players. There's simply no player in Feynoord you would say is a star player or high maintenance player

When things get tough in PL, can he get the team going ?

At the moment, thats as big a gamble as asking Mason to be headcoach.

I dont mind Slot, but I would prefer another coach who has experienced the ups & downs with a slightly bigger team

My issue with the coaches that have experienced the ups and downs with slightly bigger clubs is that they really only fall into two buckets. 1. They have extremely high expectations (Mourinho/Conte) or they are slightly damaged goods.

What do we have to lose with risking it? Taking us back 10 years? The Mourinho/nuno/Conte experience has already done that. We aren’t going to get relegated but we are unlikely to achieve the requirements of a demanding coach with expectations.

We need an open minded, positive coach that can nurture our players rather than berate them. Grow something rather than require something. I can’t think of too many coaches that have had success at “bigger” clubs that could come in and do that. Feels to me like we need someone who has had a taste for winning but still has question marks and things to prove.

 

[Hercules]

No! It was abused

Lol…
Who fell for it? I just knew it

 

[Bobbins]

Has he at any stage played 3 at the back successfully?

I feel that if we switch to a manager who solely plays 4 at the back when we have almost 150m in wingbacks could be a complete disaster

Everything I can find says he's exclusively used 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3. To be honest I'm fine with that - I don't want a manager brought in just to fit our current squad - Poch for example never would've agreed to that, I want a manager who implements his style, as long as that style produces good and reasonably successful football.

I've never been a fan of 3 at the back, and it's the clubs' fault that we've overloaded ourselves in that style so heavily given the position of our most recent manager. I much prefer 4-2-3-1 and have always felt it suits us better. 3 at the back ends up being light in the middle, light in attack, and favours counter attacking football. I want Poch-style ball domination and opposition swarming back, and that's what Slot seems to offer.

I don't think all is lost, though. Walker and Rose were never that strong defensively when Poch arrived, but they became part of a well coached team which used tactics which meant their defensive weaknesses were mostly covered whilst allowing them to get forwards effectively. All our wing backs are young enough to be coached to be better defenders, and in the cases of both Porro and Udogie, both could easily play on the flanks in more forwards positions, with traditional full backs behind them if needed.

Lets get the right manager and sporting director in, let them do what they can with the current squad, and fix those problems that persist in the same way we did when Poch arrived and eventually got rid of the likes of Kaboul, Lennon, Adebayor and Assou-Ekotto when they wouldn't fit the system he wanted.

 

[ShriekinKnight]

Tottenham’s top three for sporting director features Tim Steidten

Tottenham’s preferred three candidates for their sporting director role include Tim Steidten, who has held similar jobs at Bayer Leverkusen and Werder Bremen

www.theguardian.com

Interesting tidbit here:

I know I'm a hopeless optimistic but does this not read as "get your DoF sorted then we'll talk"?

It would be bizarre for JN to completely pull out of the running when there is still time to get DoF sorted and then a manager before preseason training starts

 

[Guntz]

Tottenham’s top three for sporting director features Tim Steidten

Tottenham’s preferred three candidates for their sporting director role include Tim Steidten, who has held similar jobs at Bayer Leverkusen and Werder Bremen

www.theguardian.com

Interesting tidbit here:

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I know I'm a hopeless optimistic but does this not read as "get your DoF sorted then we'll talk"?

It would be bizarre for JN to completely pull out of the running when there is still time to get DoF sorted and then a manager before preseason training starts

This is what I'm hoping for too

 

[Strikeb4ck]

I’d honestly have Postecoglou as my top target ahead of Slot, purely because I believe he is the most sure fire option we’ve been linked to (outside nagelsmann).

He’s prob the most unfashionable pick being from the SPL, and some people will hold the fact that he’s Australian against him. But tactically he’s fantastic and more importantly has had many years of experience to fine tune his tactics and also how he trains people to achieve those tactics.

As you noted, he’s a fantastic character and the players will take to him instantly and will definitely bring back a unity amongst the players that hasn’t been there for years.

With his character aswell, I’m sure he’ll turn the fans that are against him to his side in no time at all. I can remember Nuno winning over fans with a simple “we will make you proud” despite being the most dull manager we’ve ever had. Ange on the other hand is as big and likeable a character as you’ll find. Even more so than Martin Jol was.

He is incredibly highly regarded by the mega successful City Football Group from his time working for them, to the point where those in the know at Celtic fear that Ange would be one of Man City’s first phone-calls if Pep were ever to leave.

His early management style was moulded by a certain Ferenc Puskas, who was his last manager from his playing days. It was from him he became obsessed with all out attacking football, and has categorically refused to setup a team defensively ever since.

This has led to him getting a few hefty beatings in the champions league against the likes of Real Madrid, but his vigour to stand by his philosophy has to be respected.

It was while working as a manager for the City Football Group then that he was thought the ways of Pep football and he started to adjust his tactics to take some key philosophies off of Pep and implement them into his own, such as deploying inverted full backs.

Over the last decade, every club he has gone to he has been super successful if not dominant. His time managing Australia’s National team was very impressive. He’s obsessed with furthering his knowledge of managing constantly. He takes part in weekly video chats with some of the other leading Australian managers from other sports such as rugby, where they all share their ideas.

Apologies for the mega long post, but I’ve seen an awful lot of people be very disparaging about Postecoglou. And I truly feel if any of them took the time to properly look into him and his background, that their opinions would change drastically!

Alright, settle down Ange.

 

[Bobbins]

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Our new sporting director opening up to Slot after 18 months of working with Levy:

 

[yiddo]

Its Slot or Postecoglou for me.

Above anything else we need a good coach that has character, someone who can lift the whole vibe in the dressing room which has basically gone since Poch left.
The only reason I wouldn't have gone for Poch again is only because he has previously worked with and in the end failed to effectively work under the Levy constraints. But in terms of the type of coach he would also fit the mould.

As much as I hate Levy's stubbornness, realistically he's going nowhere anytime soon. As much as I would like half the squad moved on and replaced, realistically this is also almost certainly not going to happen.
Therefore we need a good coach who can create something half decent out of the mixed bag of players we have and the only way I see that happening is by someone who's going to dramatically change the style, the attitude, the entire atmosphere at the training ground. A big character, a leader for the entire squad to look up to and get behind.

I think that rules out quite a few names except for Slot and Postecoglou.

 

[IamSpurtacus]

Tottenham’s top three for sporting director features Tim Steidten

Tottenham’s preferred three candidates for their sporting director role include Tim Steidten, who has held similar jobs at Bayer Leverkusen and Werder Bremen

www.theguardian.com

Interesting tidbit here:

View attachment 126343

I know I'm a hopeless optimistic but does this not read as "get your DoF sorted then we'll talk"?

It would be bizarre for JN to completely pull out of the running when there is still time to get DoF sorted and then a manager before preseason training starts

if it were a conditional "yes" from JN, why would we be so public with a rebuke (via the PR mouthpieces)

 

[ShriekinKnight]

if it were a conditional "yes" from JN, why would we be so public with a rebuke (via the PR mouthpieces)

Heavy doses of copium from me but I wouldn't say it was a conditional yes but more so a "Julian won't engage in talks until you have sorted your DoF and have a clear vision of the next project" and Levy had a "you can't break up with me because I'm breaking up with you first" reaction and alerted all his journos.

Really hope whoever the DoF we chose can take over the search completely and hopefully Levys circus of a search hasn't burned too many bridges

 

[soflapaul]

Heavy doses of copium from me but I wouldn't say it was a conditional yes but more so a "Julian won't engage in talks until you have sorted your DoF and have a clear vision of the next project" and Levy had a "you can't break up with me because I'm breaking up with you first" reaction and alerted all his journos.

Really hope whoever the DoF we chose can take over the search completely and hopefully Levys circus of a search hasn't burned too many bridges

which search? I suspect that with agents talking as much as they do, his reputation can't be unblemished.

 

[Frozen_Waffles]

This, this...100 times this.

Contingency plans should be in place even if Conte was renewing. It's complete and utter negligence.

People keep saying this, but from what I've read we had a contingency and spoke to Tuchel in readiness for this situation.

It's just that Bayern fucked up our plans and left us scrambling.

Hopefully we are concentrating on a DOF first. Hopefully we are not amateur enough to appoint a manager without the approval of a future director of football.

Everyone is losing it, but in reality we were all quietly confident at the start of the season, we'd invested a good chunk of cash on what seemed like good investments. We had one of the best managers and DOFs in the world.

Conte struggling, Paratici resiging and Tuchel going to Bayern weren't predictable events. If you get even more rational you could even stretch to Lloris retiring mid season (while still playing), Dier deciding (around October) that football is not his game and the injuries to Bentancur, Bissouma and Emerson, all helped create the crisis we're in.

All problems that have come up, yes we have dealt with it shockingly but as long as we take our time and make sure we get the right decision, then we should be fine.

Perhaps I'm getting old and boring but shouldn't we be patient. Obviously if we have a fuck up like the Nuno search then it's not acceptable but as long as we have a DOF in soon and a manager by the time preseason starts then that's OK in my book.

Of course if Mason takes preseason then shit can really start to fly. For some reason Nagelsmann wasn't for us, either he rejected us or we rejected him. Let's move on.

I'm glad we are second guessing decisions, we have to make sure we get it right.

 

[Strikeb4ck]

Slot
Ange
De Zerbi
Nagelsmann
Amorim

Will be happy with any of these 5. We'll find a way to mess it up, no doubt.

 

[nipponyid]

Slot
Ange
De Zerbi
Nagelsmann
Amorim

Will be happy with any of these 5. We'll find a way to mess it up, no doubt.

Count out Nagelsmann and De Zerbi, they aren't in the running!

 

[Strikeb4ck]

Count out Nagelsmann and De Zerbi, they aren't in the running!

I don't think the Nagelsmann saga is over personally. And haven't seen anything ruling out De Zerbi?

 

[TwanYid]

I’m really hoping Mason doesn’t turn us down. I say get him in and give him what he wants. When I see him on the touch line I have to remind myself it’s not Pep. He’s my 1st, 2nd and 3rd choice. Just hope Daniel agrees.

 

[Trees]

I’m really hoping Mason doesn’t turn us down. I say get him in and give him what he wants. When I see him on the touch line I have to remind myself it’s not Pep. He’s my 1st, 2nd and 3rd choice. Just hope Daniel agrees.

I have to disagree. But I like the sentiment