Next Manager Watch

[wadewill]

Can people stop comparing us to Brighton, we are light years apart in almost every way.

You honestly could have put Fonseca in for Potter and he would have been successful, yet he wasnt deemed good enough for us.

Nobody is good enough for Tottenham with this current structure, you could bring Brian Clough into this football club right now and he would fail (prime Clough, not now Clough, obviously)

 

[Ghost Hardware]

You’d think they (whoever they are? ) would at least be discussing Gallardo now. Especially with the rumoured interest from Napoli?

That’s not how it works, first they have to go to Napoli then we realise we should have gone for them. Going for Gallardo now would require foresight.

 

[Deleted member 27855]

You’d think they (whoever they are? ) would at least be discussing Gallardo now. Especially with the rumoured interest from Napoli?

Exactly. Why is that? What Gallardo did at River Plate winning 2 Copa Libertadores is about a billion times more impressive and difficult than anything Postecoglou has done his entire career. It's ridiculous.

 

[soflapaul]

Twenty pages later and the answer is still JN.

 

[tottenhamlad]

Nagelsmann/Ragnick (DOF).

Best option.

 

[spursfan77]

Nagelsmann/Ragnick (DOF).

Best option.

Always has been.

 

[Hotspur33]

Exactly. Why is that? What Gallardo did at River Plate winning 2 Copa Libertadores is about a billion times more impressive and difficult than anything Postecoglou has done his entire career. It's ridiculous.

You’d think he would be near the top of the list for Brighton with their South American scouting, should RDZ leave.
Here’s to hoping we are all panicking for no good reason and things will all magically be announced after the season ends……hmmmm

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

I don't want to pick out anyone's post in particular but this thing about Potter and him being a former Chelsea manager being given as a reason for not wanting him (or part reason), I mean, fucking hell, come on, be fair, the bloke was barely there for 5 minutes. If you're going to judge him, the sample size has to be Brighton, the former Chelsea thing is an irrelevance, he's hardly written his name into their history and going forward it'll never be much more than a casual relationship/association between him that club and it's troglodyte fans.

So if you don't want Potter, complaining about the Chelsea thing is, for me anyway, pointless and self defeating. I get that people think we've had too many Chelsea managers i'm just not sure history will show that his time there counts for much with them.

And OK, it never went well, it started off OK and then went tits. But it's stayed tits so how much of that is down to him is debatable. Anyway, I guess what i'm trying to say in a very long winded way is, that if he was good enough when he was at Brighton, he's good enough now.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaand, having said all of that, I'd have two or three others before him

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

This is thing, before we appointed Nuno there was a big swell of support for Potter. Now just because he walked into a hiding to nothing at Chelsea he is being written off.

We write off managers and players too quickly in this country. When in fact we should be seeing their bad experiences as a sign of growth and development. Potter might now have come out of the Chelsea debacle with a determination to show what he is about. I think he is decent option for us.

I did not like Potter as a manager for Spurs then, and I don't like him for a Spurs manager now.

He does not have what it takes to manage a club with top-of-the-table aspirations. It involves a lot more than tactical nous - which I have never questioned.

 

[Tucker]

Twenty pages later and the answer is still JN.

Nagelsmann/Ragnick (DOF).

Best option.

Always has been.

I see it as the only way the club can save face now. If they really wanted success they’d be hammering it out for announcement by Monday. We saw how quickly the club was able to get Conte, and Mourinho sorted previously. It’s something Levy is more than capable of if he really wants it.

 

[he is you know!]

Not Frank for me.

I'd take Potter, he is flexible tactically, a nice guy and plays good football.

Take the Chelsea disaster out and most would be over the moon with him.

We approached him before and he didn't think he would have the control he had at Brighton. We didn't fancy paying £13m at the time either.

Doubt if he's changed his opinion looking on at what's been happening. He can afford to wait.

 

[Dennism]

That would mean 3 of our last 4 managers would be Chelsea rejects.

Fuck that.

Potter is at a different stage of his career to the other two numpties. Also a very different person.

 

[Franc]

People are gaslighting themselves. It’s a shit situation and we all want to have a little hope that things will turn out ok. It was the same last time with people convincing themselves Gerrard was a great choice because he’d done such a bang up job at Rangers shooting all those barrel fish. It’s the same now.

We are down to the dregs.

Postecoglu might be an ok coach, he might even be a great guy, but let’s not pretend he’s not a massive gamble, or that he’s anywhere near a top choice.

I said yesterday that I’d be giving the club the benefit of the doubt when there looked to be a plan to get Slot and move to a new style of football, with a proper structure in place. It’s pretty clear we were never really 100% serious about him though.

I think they fell in love with the idea of getting Slot in cheaply, and shat themselves when they saw the real price of that particular choice. Now they could be right, it could be too much of a gamble to pay that for someone who’s not managed outside Holland, but really it looks to me like they put all their eggs in this basket, and are now completely rudderless and lost as to what to do next.

The simplest thing in the world when they sacked Conte was to get Poch back in, make good whatever went wrong and give him the keys to the rebuild. I don’t blame them for wanting to go in a fresh direction at all, but they should have least have had a direction. When they had him there available and keen, and decided to go elsewhere they simply had to get it right.

If they’d got JN or Slot then it would have shown a trajectory we could all get behind. Now they’re just chucking names out and hoping something sticks.

This is where I disagree. It’s down to the dregs if you’re considering the same old, but I’d prefer the gamble (every decision is a gamble) on a guy who plays the exact type of football that the club was built on, as opposed to someone who you can easily name check becuase he managed in the PL previously.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

I see it as the only way the club can save face now. If they really wanted success they’d be hammering it out for announcement by Monday. We saw how quickly the club was able to get Conte, and Mourinho sorted previously. It’s something Levy is more than capable of if he really wants it.

Short of plucking something totally amazing and outrageous out of thin air, I think you've hit the nail on the head. It would get him out of so much shit with the fans.

Hell, even i'd be impressed to the point where I might send him a card on June 18th

 

[geordiespur]

This is what Levy has done to parts of the fanbase. Gaslit people into thinking so little of themselves and the club.

I mean that’s mildly offensive. I’m pretty sure my opinion is perfectly valid and I was always quite pro Ange even before as I’m no longer sold on the idea of a ‘super star’ manager, given how bad the last two have been

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Some great points from Mason in today's presser, I hope he and Kane etc are making these points abundantly clear to Levy and the board. It would seem so given we targeted Slot so strongly.

How much work does this squad need in the transfer window once the new manager comes in to make it compete again?

Of course I think there is work because we have a big squad, a lot of players on loan and decisions to make. First of all there is a lot of decisions to make about our current squad. That's probably the priority. I think the most important work is probably away from the transfer window right now because you need a manager in place, you need commitment, you need an idea to know where you go. You can't do transfer business without a manager because it might not fit his idea. At the moment I believe we need an idea of what we want to do, who we want to be and stick to it. Recruit people for that and ultimately recruit players for that.

You spoke about a succession plan for players but also staff?

Yeah, I did say not just players, it's members of staff as well. If you want to be a successful football club on the pitch then everyone working for the organisation within the football club has to be on board with what we are and who we are. I think that when you have an idea of that, when people leave, it is probably for easier to pick people to come in and I think it makes it a lot more fluid and easy to plan for these type of things. I hope going forward that's definitely the case.

My view is quite clear in terms of we've probably had two or three different styles of football in the last two or three years and I don't think that is good for any squad of players or for fans.

 

[spursfan77]

Short of plucking something totally amazing and outrageous out of thin air, I think you've hit the nail on the head. It would get him out of so much shit with the fans.

Hell, even i'd be impressed to the point where I might send him a card on June 18th

So would have appointing Poch, but he didn’t want to do that.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Nagelsmann/Ragnick (DOF).

Best option.

Rangnick even advocated or JN to join spurs with a good DofF to support him, recently and so he’d not have said that if he didn’t think it was possible.

Him and JN or one of Ragnicks deciples and JN.

Just get it done Levy.

 

[leray]

I'd be very happy with Ange if he was the main choice. He knows how to drill a team, he's a unifying figure and could help with our rebuild whilst implementing a new brand of football.

Unfortunately, he's probably a fifth choice, so that means he will instantly be on borrowed time. Everybody, especially the dressing room feels he's not the top choice.

I'm very bullish on analytics in football, I like the proper Moneyball approach when you buy low and sell high. I'd understand if we decided to sell Kane right now. But I also know that vibes are really important in football and they can explain a lot in this stupid sport.

I'm afraid that with getting Ange (in fact anybody apart from maybe JN or Poch) the vibes will be very bad.

 

[spursfan77]

Some great points from Mason, I hope he and Kane etc are making these abundantly clear to Levy and the board. It would seem so given we targeted Slot so strongly.


How much work does this squad need in the transfer window once the new manager comes in to make it compete again?

Of course I think there is work because we have a big squad, a lot of players on loan and decisions to make. First of all there is a lot of decisions to make about our current squad. That's probably the priority. I think the most important work is probably away from the transfer window right now because you need a manager in place, you need commitment, you need an idea to know where you go. You can't do transfer business without a manager because it might not fit his idea. At the moment I believe we need an idea of what we want to do, who we want to be and stick to it. Recruit people for that and ultimately recruit players for that.

You spoke about a succession plan for players but also staff?

Yeah, I did say not just players, it's members of staff as well. If you want to be a successful football club on the pitch then everyone working for the organisation within the football club has to be on board with what we are and who we are. I think that when you have an idea of that, when people leave, it is probably for easier to pick people to come in and I think it makes it a lot more fluid and easy to plan for these type of things. I hope going forward that's definitely the case.

My view is quite clear in terms of we've probably had two or three different styles of football in the last two or three years and I don't think that is good for any squad of players or for fans.

Sounds like pointed comments towards levy there. No chance he’s getting the job with that much straight talking and sense!