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Ghost Hardware

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Not going for Poch is still one of the most confusing sporting decisions I've ever seen. In any sport.

It makes absolutely zero sense. Went for him 2 years ago, now it's completely out of the question?

No clue what's going on at Spurs right now.
Thing is, I was completely behind the decision when I thought, or rather hoped, we were deliberately passing on him because we had a clear vision and wanted a fresh start. There was talk of looking for a young manager with modern ideas, “the new Poch”. That along with thought we could get someone like Gallardo or Nagelsmann made me happy to pass on Poch.

But how this has played out makes me feel completely differently. It’s very clear the club have no master plan and are completely lacking direction. I have zero faith we will come out of this in a good place.
 

thePessimist

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i can’t wrap my head around the supposed importance of the fee needed to get a manager released from a contract/compensation. Isn’t this peanuts compared to player fees smashed around every season? Isn’t it more important to get the right man and paying the required fee for the one we want, rather than fire a random fucker and pay for him to go away mid season??
 

yido_number1

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Club using social media and their PR to test the waters with managers names. Vote against it. They are deliberately gauging fans reactions.,
The club really are a bunch of chancers devoid of ideas. Pray we sign a really forward thinking strategic director of football to revolutionise us. Levy needs to become a silent never seen or heard back ground character. Give him the events, sponsorship and real estate title he deserves and hope we never see him again.
 

Dazzazzad

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i can’t wrap my head around the supposed importance of the fee needed to get a manager released from a contract/compensation. Isn’t this peanuts compared to player fees smashed around every season? Isn’t it more important to get the right man and paying the required fee for the one we want, rather than fire a random fucker and pay for him to go away mid season??

My 2 cents. Players are assets. You have them and the opportunity to sell them for the length of the contract. If they "fail" and are not first choice anymore they can still serve a squad player role.

A manager is more like an employee and a position in which there's massive turnover. It's already costly to sack one and his coaching staff early, which happens for most coaches across all clubs. Makes it even more so if you've had to pay 15-20 million to get the guy in the first place.
 

Metalhead

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i can’t wrap my head around the supposed importance of the fee needed to get a manager released from a contract/compensation. Isn’t this peanuts compared to player fees smashed around every season? Isn’t it more important to get the right man and paying the required fee for the one we want, rather than fire a random fucker and pay for him to go away mid season??
It's just indicative of the way that the club is run. It's not like the board is afraid of a large financial outlay but it's just an inconsistent approach - a large amount here and there but then the club baulks at something that would appear, on the face of it at least to be a prudent investment.
 

Snarfalicious

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The problem with Tottenham is not the club itself. I think that’s a flawed argument/viewpoint. I hate seeing stuff like “Tottenham’s” failure at appointing a manager. The problem is the one person at the club who has far too much power, far too much leeway, and has really no business being the primary football brain at a club our size despite his bloated view of himself. That’s what is so frustrating and why this is just sad to me. We have a Daniel Levy problem, and this is just yet another obvious situation that should see the end to him, but instead it'll be tossed on the ever-growing pile of shit he’s brought on us with literally no blowback to him other than some balloons and chants.
 

Hoopspur

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I hope we all realise that the Scottish Cup Final is next weekend and not this. IF it were to be AP then we are going to have at least another 8 days of this bollocks. Strap in/strap on. But the sun is shining. Go and get a beer.

One thought in regards to an A&C post earlier - if it were to be another ex Chelsea manager then that really doesn’t suggest to me the cheap option. I can’t imagine they have ever come cheap?
 

YIDfromtheLANE

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Where Mason is so right is that getting the right manager is necessary but not sufficient to bring the club success.

Unless the club is aligned around a clear strategy and set of principles that bring together playing style and recruitment, any manager, no matter what their previous record is, will fail.

Let’s hope the penny has dropped with Levy.
Penny may well drop in the short term, but like an addict he’ll start getting involved bit by bit. Poking his nose in, challenging the line, asking after things that shouldn’t concern him, stealthily dressing the DOF into a straight jacket once he feels the ship has been steadied. That is nailed on 100%. And there the cycle begins again….

That might come across as unfair, but nothing suggests to me in all these years the man is for changing.
 

glacierSpurs

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No idea how Slot could have signed that recontract that soon. Wasn't him very keen to come? I mean I know Levy can be shit, but was it to such an extent that it pissed Slot so much he literally couldn't wait to sign? I know the media could also be a few days slow so things might have already worked out all before Wednesday. But still? If Slot is not using us as leverage to ask for a higher pay, he sure looks like now.

Seriously what the fuck Slot. And we silly fucking celebrate the league title with Feyenoord.
 

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It may be a year old now, but this video —from the ever-excellent Tifo — does a brilliant job of explaining Postecoglou’s tactics and style of play, and how he’s transformed Celtic:



(Apologies if already posted)
 
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Yiddo100

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No idea how Slot could have signed that recontract that soon. Wasn't him very keen to come? I mean I know Levy can be shit, but was it to such an extent that it pissed Slot so much he literally couldn't wait to sign? I know the media could also be a few days slow so things might have already worked out all before Wednesday. But still? If Slot is not using us as leverage to ask for a higher pay, he sure looks like now.

Seriously what the fuck Slot. And we silly fucking celebrate the league title with Feyenoord.
In his press conference earlier he said Monday he decided to stay and then Wednesday was purely a meeting to sort his new contract.
 

Adam456

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Not going for Poch is still one of the most confusing sporting decisions I've ever seen. In any sport.

It makes absolutely zero sense. Went for him 2 years ago, now it's completely out of the question?

No clue what's going on at Spurs right now.
Totally agree. He still doesn't appear to have actually put pen to paper over there. We are in a deep, dark hole and he is standing there asking if we want to borrow his torch and ladder

Feel like there must be something deeply personal going on. Somebody very, very high up doesn't want him
 

For the love of Spurs

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It's just indicative of the way that the club is run. It's not like the board is afraid of a large financial outlay but it's just an inconsistent approach - a large amount here and there but then the club baulks at something that would appear, on the face of it at least to be a prudent investment.

I think Trix hit the nail on the head earlier. If it was Conte we would pay because of big reputation but even though Slot suits us more Levy can’t get his head around the dynamics of recruitment and why it’s worth over paying in this situation to have someone who actually fits the club.

He seems to treat managers and players like cars, paying more for a Ferrari than a Land Rover without looking at the overall strategic need and that is accepting in certain situations it’s worth overpaying becuase of the situation you find yourself in.

buy cheap buy twice or penny wise pound foolish in short
 

yido_number1

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Totally agree. He still doesn't appear to have actually put pen to paper over there. We are in a deep, dark hole and he is standing there asking if we want to borrow his torch and ladder

Feel like there must be something deeply personal going on. Somebody very, very high up doesn't want him
What makes it even funnier is everyone saying we've lost our way since Poch. Utterly ridiculous decision to let him go to Chelsea and for me only topped by the decision to sack him in the first place.

I don't think I've felt as connected to the club since he left and don't think I will again as long as that joy sucking Dr evil wanna be is in charge.
 

glacierSpurs

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In his press conference earlier he said Monday he decided to stay and then Wednesday was purely a meeting to sort his new contract.
And his pressers were still charming so many of us and the journalists that reports were coming out left right centre after that painting of someone who talks like he's leaving with the PL being a League he's very keen in. Pffft

Hope Feyenoord crash out of CL in group stages next season and failed in top 3.

Yes I'm now fucking bitter.
 

JCRD

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Not going for Poch is still one of the most confusing sporting decisions I've ever seen. In any sport.

It makes absolutely zero sense. Went for him 2 years ago, now it's completely out of the question?

No clue what's going on at Spurs right now.

Sacking him was the most ludicrous decision. You stick with what has worked and rebuild. Instead look at us and the situation we are in and the last three years. It may not have worked who knows, but based on the evidence, I dont think we would have been in a worse position that is for sure. A discussion that has been flogged to death but look where we are - no identity, soul or connection. Even the players saying it.
 

Hoopspur

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I think Trix hit the nail on the head earlier. If it was Conte we would pay because of big reputation but even though Slot suits us more Levy can’t get his head around the dynamics of recruitment and why it’s worth over paying in this situation to have someone who actually fits the club.

He seems to treat managers and players like cars, paying more for a Ferrari than a Land Rover without looking at the overall strategic need and that is accepting in certain situations it’s worth overpaying becuase of the situation you find yourself in.

buy cheap buy twice or penny wise pound foolish in short
Aaaaaarrrrgghhhhhhhhh!!!!
 
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