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GMI

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Conte kept saying it would take multiple windows and nobody would listen.
I think people did listen (or most). The rebuild started about two years ago when Paratici came in. The issue with Conte was that he wasn't committed to the multiple windows which made the situation very hard i.e. how do you rebuild a team with a manager who has one very specific way of playing, player requirements, and no patience to stick around to oversee it.
 

YIDfromtheLANE

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If we do hire Enrique as our manager, I wonder if he would bring this setup with him. Looks pretty innovative and certainly offers him a better view of how the team is setting up while also suggesting certain tactical changes on the fly.





Knowing our luck, he’ll stack it climbing down that ladder and be out for months.
 

danielneeds

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I mean he managed to do that at Celta who were languishing near the bottom of the league when he joined them. In one season he got them playing great attacking technical football and laid the foundation for the club to successfully continue with an attacking mindset after he left.

I know it was a long while ago and it was just the one season he was there but he did change the culture of the club. Doing that in one season with a small budget is pretty impressive and it was what convinced Barca to hire him.
Okay, fair enough. That’s in the plus column but it was years and years ago. He just feels all wrong to me.
 
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DeadleyLedley

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I'll probably get slammed for this but I'm convinced Enrique would be a disaster. He hasn't managed at club level since 2017, plays suffocatingly dull possession based football and has a similar reputation as Conte for being difficult. His appointment would represent Levy (probably still under the influence of Paratici) clinging to failed belief that a big reputation is the answer to our problems. Sensible money would be on him leaving within 18 months with us outside the top 10. I'd much rather we took a risk and gave the job to Mason (who, though not my first choice, has handled himself impeccably and shown signs of being a very promising coach) than have reached the point where the club thinks going the same route as Mourinho and Conte is the best way forward.
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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Enrique ONLY works with technical players in the side. If he’s going to try and play tiki taka with Dier, Davies… even Sonny, you might as well forget it.

Enrique doesn’t exclusively play Tika Taka.

We have enough technical players in the squad to build around.

These points have been made consistently over the last couple days. But please carry on pushing these lazy narratives.
 

easley91

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Enrique doesn’t exclusively play Tika Taka.

We have enough technical players in the squad to build around.

These points have been made consistently over the last couple days. But please carry on pushing these lazy narratives.
It's actually getting boring now. No matter what manager is mentioned (or player) some will find a negative and beat it to death, even if it isn't true.
 

Silky Skills

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I would really recommend that people step away from the doom scrolling for a couple of hours and do something else. You will feel better for it.
I have decided to go "off grid" from now until the first home game and I am just going to take my seat and see who is in the dugout ...........
 

For the love of Spurs

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I can’t understand the narrative of “Enrique is underwhelming” has anyone else on here experienced Gross, Santini, AVB etc. Enrique achievements have only been bettered by Pep and Cruyff in Barcelona’s entire existence. No one knows if any appointment will work but the entitlement and willingness to get really excited about Slot but be so dismissive of a coach who plays football in the right way and has been highly successful is baffling. You can’t compare to conte and Jose as totally different footballing philosophy and approaches to coaching players.

Has nothing to do with his capability, all to do with the fit and quite frankly our mess.

Conte was a top 5 in the world manager at least on rep before joining us. He asked for certain players and we gave him different ones.

These manager will have standards higher than our club. We are closer to Celtic right now than Barca so someone like Ange who plays a good style and is used to working with limited players might be more of a long term option than someone who will probably get very frustrated with the limits of the club and in particular the chairman.
 

HildoSpur

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I'd be happy with Enrique personally. I'll just be relieved that we have a manager at this stage.
 

soflapaul

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So it's not a complete rebuild we not trashing the team and starting afresh. I can't believe so many are turning their Moses up at Enrique.....sometimes we deserve what we get.
Does that mean we are all in for Jesus? Personally think Harry Kane is Abel

Enrique is a second tier coach choice for us and not the worst of the lot. we need someone who can improve players technically and mentally.
 

philip

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Of course he wont let go. Been in the job 22 years, is there another club since 2001 that hasnt changed their owners or chairperson? From the outside it just sounds and looks like he is reluctant to see any other way but his, the arrogance of power.

Give it up Daniel, yours is a dynasty of footballing failure.
A dynasty of footballing failure?

When he arrived we were a mid table team, nowhere near ManU, Arsenal or Liverpool, battling with Everton, Aston Villa, Southampton, Leicester, Blackburn and Middlesbrough.

He then had to battle with the arrival of Ambramovich, and then Man City.

And despite that, while building Europe's best stadium and training ground, within 7 years his leadership helped us get into the CL and then stay 4-6 th for the next few years.
His leadership them helped us fight for the title.

Yes he's lost his way since the CL final and Poch sacking, and I'm not a Levy apologist, but to say his legacy is of footballing failure is simply not factually correct.
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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I think people did listen (or most). The rebuild started about two years ago when Paratici came in. The issue with Conte was that he wasn't committed to the multiple windows which made the situation very hard i.e. how do you rebuild a team with a manager who has one very specific way of playing, player requirements, and no patience to stick around to oversee it.

I think it’s a bit of both. Conte wanted to ‘win now’ and ultimately threw his toys out the pram because he couldn’t compete for the title immediately. But also fans had no patience because they didn’t like the style football so started blaming the squad for not being up to scratch.

Facts he was backed more than any other manager and should have got the team performing much better than it did this season.
 

Ghost Hardware

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Okay, fair enough. That’s in the plus column bur it was years and years ago. He just feels all wrong to me.
Yeah I mean I get why some aren't wild on him, I’d be lying if I said I didn’t have reservations myself. But I do think he is actually better option then some make out. I think people have been so burnt out by Conte and Jose that there is a tendency to paint him with the same brush when in fact he is a completely different type of manager both in his tactical approach and his personality.

I think if it happens, and i really feel like we are jumping the gun a little here, at least he plays very attacking, fast vertical football, is tactically versatile and is really very very good at developing and integrating youth players. As I’ve said, knowing Nagelsmann and Gallardo (for me) are both free does sort of taint it but when looking at him as a manager he’s really not a terrible option even if his appointment may seem a little underwhelming in comparison.
 
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mil1lion

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I think Luis Enrique fits a majority of our squad. We have some good technical players and players who are suited to direct football too. Since we became a counter attacking team our attacks have often been more direct. The difference is we would not sit so deep and will have more of the ball now.

I can see some of the former La Liga players staying put. I wouldn’t rule out Lenglet as he will be better suited in a possession team. I can see him keeping Reguilon, Gil and Lo Celso. We also have Porro so there is a kind of Spanish/La Liga feel. If he can get anything close to the output of MSN with KSK he would do well. I guess the hope is for all the possession his Spain team has he'll have Son and Kane to finish the moves off.

We will need new signings whoever we get but I don't see us making mass changes. I think Luis Enrique probably doesn't need so many signings as suggested.
 

Bobbins

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I would really recommend that people step away from the doom scrolling for a couple of hours and do something else. You will feel better for it.

Had three days off from the thread, turns out I mostly forgot about it and don't care!
 
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