Next Manager Watch

[Phil_2.0]

Only difference being, our club is run awfully, so any manager who comes, is on a hiding to nothing.

This is the truth.

I have to remember it doesn't really matter who we get, they will all underperform.

 

[Tonio]

If he is hired then Levy is giving him a chance, but I am on about the fans once someone is hired into the manager's role. This fanbase deem people not good enough. You could be underqualified but willing to learn and work with those around you. If given a chance you could prove to be successful and prove all the doubters wrong.

I am not saying he will be a roaring success, nor am I saying he is not good enough. We as a fanbase need to stop believing outright that one person is worthy of it and another isn't. If Ange is hired then get behind him, if Enrique is hired get behind him, if Potter is hired then get behind. Whoever is fucking hired then get behind them.

This fanbase is weirdly obsessed with writing people off when they're simply linked with us. Of course discuss his style, his CV etc. but don't be a dick who is waiting to go "I told you so" if it fails.

How many were begging for Redknapp or Poch when we got them? Were they at the level we wanted? Redknapp was a Championship manager at the time. Poch was at Southampton. They had barely won anything of note between them. Same with Jol.

Just give whoever is hired a chance to implement their style and get behind them without getting on backs on day one or even before they sign a contract.

Listen if he comes in and it all works out hunky dory then I’ll be the first to admit I’m wrong about him. But I have a preconceived opinion (wrongly or rightly) as do others and I’ll stand by that until proved otherwise.

 

[Darth Vega]

If he is hired then Levy is giving him a chance, but I am on about the fans once someone is hired into the manager's role. This fanbase deem people not good enough. You could be underqualified but willing to learn and work with those around you. If given a chance you could prove to be successful and prove all the doubters wrong.

I am not saying he will be a roaring success, nor am I saying he is not good enough. We as a fanbase need to stop believing outright that one person is worthy of it and another isn't. If Ange is hired then get behind him, if Enrique is hired get behind him, if Potter is hired then get behind. Whoever is fucking hired then get behind them.

This fanbase is weirdly obsessed with writing people off when they're simply linked with us. Of course discuss his style, his CV etc. but don't be a dick who is waiting to go "I told you so" if it fails.

How many were begging for Redknapp or Poch when we got them? Were they at the level we wanted? Redknapp was a Championship manager at the time. Poch was at Southampton. They had barely won anything of note between them. Same with Jol.

Just give whoever is hired a chance to implement their style and get behind them without getting on backs on day one or even before they sign a contract.

I think it's just Twitter. It's made up of mostly children/younger people who can't process nuance or go beyond black and white thinking. The same wankers who are writing him off will be the first ones to tweet something cringe about "Ange's style of football" the second he does well.

 

[spursfan77]

Well Barber is going to say that.

There's also lots of reports that Ange turned them down

He literally said it 8 months ago in the interview I posted. So are we not meant to believe anyone now? weird.

 

[blodge99]

There's some awful snobbery in here from some (vocal) posters.
I genuinely don't understand some of the vitriol aimed at Ange Postecoglu/Celtic/Scottish football.

Yes, it's not the best league in the world, we all know that...but the way AP has rebuilt and developed Celtic in the last few years deserves respect.
He has built his career from the bottom, constantly stepping up the ladder and rising to the occasion each time. His catchphrase/slogan is 'We Never Stop'...and that's is very apt.

I see some posters have said it's Nuno mk 2...with all due respect, I don't think you could be further from the truth.
AP is a charismatic guy who players love. He's a typical forthright Aussie, in that he's not shy to say his piece. I think our lads will love him (if he does indeed come).

As I've said before, I have an affinity for Celtic so follow them (2nd to Spurs), and the transformation of the club and culture change of what he's overseen is exactly what we need here at THFC.

We've tried the billy-big-bollox type. Manager with Jose and Conte amd look where that's got us.
I've been a Spurs fan for just shy of 40 years and in that time the 2 managers who I think the majority of us resonated the most with have been Jol and Poch, who above everthing were really decent blokes - Ange will on a par with them in my humble opinion.


N.b. I'm on at 33/1 so come on Ange

 

[ralphs bald spot]

This is the truth.

I have to remember it doesn't really matter who we get, they will all underperform.

oh what short memories

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

I respectfully disagree because if we were not in denial, then we would have went all in for Slot who apparently wanted to start by selling off Kane and Son… Also, the hiring of Jose and Conte had nothing to do with rebuilding and more to do with trying to paper over the cracks…Finally, if we were truly committed to rebuilding we would have shifted or shipped out more of the deadwood but I think the board believe that it is better to keep some of them to see if a new manager can get tune out of them..

Hiring Jose and Conte was an attempt to win something with a squad many thought had the talent to do so. Both are not known for being 'yes men' so if the board simply wanted managers who towed the lined they went the completely the wrong way about it.

As for the rebuild, Conte himself said it would take 4-5 transfer windows. We are in market where selling players on high salaries is almost impossible. So much so we've had to pretty much give away players like Aurier, Doherty, Toby, Sissoko, Lamela in recent seasons. And we've tried to sell Ndombele and Lo Celso for less than third of what we paid for them.

Asking a new manager to work with some of the current squad is entirely reasonable as we can't just rebuild the squad everytime we change manager. Fans all say Brighton are the model we should be following but do you think they chose De Zerbi expecting to go through a rebuild? or was it for his ability to coach maximise the ability of the majority of their current team?

 

[easley91]

I think it's just Twitter. It's made up of mostly children/younger people who can't process nuance or go beyond black and white thinking. The same wankers who are writing him off will be the first ones to tweet something cringe about "Ange's style of football" the second he does well.

It's not just twitter when it's on here as well..

 

[biscuit]

Steven Gerrard won the SPL with Rangers

David May won the PL with United. Are you seriously suggesting he is of the same standing as Vidic or VVD? Of course not. So please don’t compare these two.
Do yourself a favour, mate, and read up on Big Ange. He knows how to spot a player, how to rebuild a squad, how to motivate a team, and plays cracking ‘pass and move’ football - the very epitome of the ‘Spurs way’
It might only be the SPL, but prior to crossing the title line this season, Celtic had lost one and drawn two matches, winning every other one.
He might not be everyone’s dream manager, but the disrespect given to him by some on these pages is jaw-dropping. (That last part’s not aimed at you BTW)

 

[soflapaul]

Due diligence!

Overdue diligence!

 

[NickHSpurs]

It's started

Entitled little ****, he knows we finished 8th right?

 

[Trix]

I suppose it’s a matter of opinion on whether he’s worth it or not. I’d lean towards yes personally as I rate Enrique and he gives a bit more of a proven commodity to the table. I think we need to be getting back to the top 5 ASAP (for CL qualification) or we’re going to get left behind very quickly by the current top 4, Liverpool and Chelsea

At this point I think we just need to do something even if it's not everyone's first choice and it costs financially. The transfer window opens in 11 days and there's so much that needs to be done without what should be the two key components in place. I'm far from convinced Enrique is the right choice, but then I think the 3 best candidates are either gone or in JN's case extremely unlikely.

Be it Enrique or AP or whoever, a decision needs to be made now, we need to own that decision, and we need to back it, or we can just write off another season. This has gone on long enough!

 

[Misfit]

The big difference really is that Poch was already in the league and a lot younger. Ange is a lot older and I think a lot of fans would feel that type of manager should cut his teeth at a smaller PL club first. I'm on the fence about him but he could well be our next Redknapp instead of Poch 2.0.

I'd snap your arm off for 'arry 2.0 RN tbh.

But yeah, there's no pretending this appointment is the one the club itself was eager for if it even happens. More a case of making do and hoping for the best. There's no need for any of us to delude ourselves this was part of some kind of plan either.

 

[easley91]

Listen if he comes in and it all works out hunky dory then I’ll be the first to admit I’m wrong about him. But I have a preconceived opinion (wrongly or rightly) as do others and I’ll stand by that until proved otherwise.

I think this is the biggest problem. Very few are open minded and it must be manager x or y for reason a, b or c. Like yourself, they don't have the ability to just go okay let's give him a chance to see if he can prove us wrong.

We just had two managers who won massive leagues, yet they failed to galvanise this club and win anything. I get the Scottish or Dutch league reasoning, I do. But if he isn't given a chance then how can he prove his worth? That's not me saying we MUST hire him. He isn't my number one, that has long gone.

There just seems to be something with this place and this fanbase where everything has to be negative and nobody is good enough.

 

[danielneeds]

For me Kane’s opinion represents our ambition level. It's just a barometer for where we are heading. Like how he kicked up a fuss when we hired Nuno but got back to business under Conte. He just wants us to be ambitious so if he's happy for 1 final year under a manager I think that at least gives me confidence we are heading in the right direction.

For all Kane’s genius on the pitch, he’s never given any impression of being particularly switched on off it. He’d be a similar standard manager to Lampard quite honestly.

 

[Nick-TopSpursMan]

If our fans can't get behind him should he come then I'm sorry to say this but in my opinion our fans are a major part of the problem and I have to question whether we ‘deserve’ any success.

If we are still just clamouring for big names with hype then we’ve really not learnt anything from the Mourinho and Conte disasters.

It’s not about the name, it’s about the fit. That’s the key to a manager being a success at a club like Spurs imo, one which doesn’t have infinite resources.

Part of our rebuild in my view is letting go of preconceived notions that a top manager has to be a big name.

Our 3 best PL managers are Jol, Redknapp and Poch. None of them were big names and Jol hadn’t done a thing when he became our manager.

If he wants to play attacking football, coach players and develop young players he will get my backing. If I don’t see improvements or I see major errors constantly then I’ll question him. But he gets a clean slate from me as with every manager. I even tried to give Mourinho and Conte a clean slate even though I knew they’d fail because of their rubbish football and bad fit.

If our fans can’t get behind someone who wants to attack and do things the Spurs way, we are doomed to failure. That doesn't mean you can't have concerns or other favoured candidates btw but some of the stuff on Ange is just ignorant and the hashtag on Twitter is ridiculous.


For what it's worth, I share concerns about his lack of experience in a top 5 league, a similar concern I had with Slot. I also worry about how his counter pressing game scales to PL level as Nathan on the Extra Inch analysed.

But when I analyse the tactics he employs, the things he's done behind the scenes, the character and charisma he's shown, the journey he has gone on, it makes it worth the risk for me, even though I realise it may not work and I'd probably have gone for Nagelsmann or Slot.

This guy had an average playing career on the other side of the world, no connections, no mates to get in to high level management in Europe. Instead he worked his backside off every day to improve and learn, climbing the ladder in Asia before moving to Europe. He didn't have it easy like former players (Conte, Poch etc) who get given chances because of who they are, or like Mourinho (Bobby Robson) because of who they know. Instead he worked and worked like any of us would have to, taking years climbing the ladder.

It's an underdog story and man have I got a thing for underdogs.

If we get him, I'll get behind him. Doesn't matter what part of the world he's from or how long it's taken him to get here, if he embraces Tottenham Hotspur and promises to play and coach in the Tottenham way, I'll cheer for him

 

[GMI]

What's the quote from Succession......"Tottenham Hotspurs, I love you, but you are not serious people" (he doesn't mention Tottenham Hotpurs in the show, but I know he's thinking it)

He also said this about to our leak to the press on Nagelsman: “It was supposed to be choreographed. That was about as choreographed as a dog getting fu**ed on roller skates.”

 

[isaac94]

think the aussie accent puts him off for a lot of people (wrongly ofc), because we haven't seen too many managers with that accent, hearing him speak greek (his native tongue) he comes across v different, if he was a Spanish or french manager maybe the perception would be better

 

[fuzzylogic]

Sure he won't find it as funny if he comes to us

 

[Tonio]

It's not just twitter when it's on here as well..

Ah how the insults fly when someone has a difference of opinion to that of their own. SMH.