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I, for one, would be very positive about Ange. He's achieved everywhere he's been and done it the hard way. Sometimes I think we just want a manager with a big reputation but our last two permanent appointments show that hasn't been a good fit for us and I worry Luis Enrique may be the same. There are a lot of Celtic fans over here in NI and many attend all the home games - they tell me this is the best football they've ever watched. When he arrived Celtic had finished miles behind Rangers and he turned it round, won a double and on course for the treble in his second year. What we need is a leader, big personality, fun attacking football and someone who's not a prima donna. Ange fits the bill. Good article on this.

https://www.heraldscotland.com/spor...ostility-celtic-boss-ange-predictable-unfair/
 

Spursmatty87

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I’ve been on the Ange train from the start so I’m a bit biased. I don’t see it as settling personally. Surely settling would be employing someone out of work like Rodgers or Potter.

I like that he’s one that we’ve identified, I want us to be brave in our appointment and I think he ticks that box. Never managing in Europe shouldn’t be a stick to beat him it should be seen as a positive. I think the football press and fans has a lot of xenophobia when it comes to managers outside of Europe. The same as this country had 20 years ago when European managers started to manage in the premier league.
 

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I know we’re a bit pants “at the moment” but we’re one of the biggest clubs in English football, one of the richest clubs in the world, a recent champions league regular, with one of the worlds best players, in a world class stadium, in one of the world’s most popular cities, and we have massive potential. Surely we can do better than stealing the Celtic manager (no disrespect intended). Sure he’s a decent coach but I’m not comfortable settling for decent given the club stature / status.

I see your point, and everything I say here can probably be undone by the fact that both Julian Nagelsmann and Luis Enrique are out of work and available...

But I also see no reason why we should appoint someone to align with our alleged stature/status; while it's not necessarily comparable, that kind of thinking has not worked for us in the past. Football management, like player recruitment, is not about employing the biggest names; it should be about finding the right fit for the club's philosophy, culture and long-term plans.

FWIW, I don't think there are many dissimilarities between how Arne Slot likes his teams to play and how Postecoglou has traditionally had his most successful teams play. We can argue all day, night about the level of competition (though, frankly, if he doesn't have PL experience, I don't see how it's any different from any manager who's not managed in England), but there does seem to be a consistency between their managerial targets this time around – for the most part.
 

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Day 66 in the Spurs house and the residents realise they can't function without the Benny Hill music being pumped through the speakers
 

LeSoupeKitchen

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The 2021 manager search was disastrous, inexcusable, and unprecedented. It shouldn't have happened even once.

I don't have the words to describe the fact it's happening again.

If Levy can't recognise he is doing something wrong then he has reached Rebekah Vardy levels of delusion.
 
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I’ve been on the Ange train from the start so I’m a bit biased. I don’t see it as settling personally. Surely settling would be employing someone out of work like Rodgers or Potter.

I like that he’s one that we’ve identified, I want us to be brave in our appointment and I think he ticks that box. Never managing in Europe shouldn’t be a stick to beat him it should be seen as a positive. I think the football press and fans has a lot of xenophobia when it comes to managers outside of Europe. The same as this country had 20 years ago when European managers started to manage in the premier league.

I would welcome Ange at the club, but can we stop with claiming people who think his lack of experience in a comparable league is xenophobia. That sort of thinking comes from prejudice and lack of knowledge, we know that his previous leagues are much lower quality than the premier League, so people are entitled to measure that very strongly in their view. As I say, I'd be prepared to give him a go because I think his style could help us, but I fully get why people say 'mate, he's managed in Australia and Japan, now Scotland, it isn't high quality enough competition to come into spurs'.
 

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So the Ange thing is essentially a protest because Levy is still here?

People probably concluding that he's Levy's choice because he's cheap versus Nagelsmann. Pretty absurd really that Nagelsmann is available but being overlooked because he wants something that doesn't allign with Levy though. I mean, who actually knows more about winning football matches out of those 2?

I've got nothing against Ange at all and he might be an inspired choice but it's like putting a small bet on an outsider instead of lumping onto a red hot favorite.
 

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I know we’re a bit pants “at the moment” but we’re one of the biggest clubs in English football, one of the richest clubs in the world, a recent champions league regular, with one of the worlds best players, in a world class stadium, in one of the world’s most popular cities, and we have massive potential. Surely we can do better than stealing the Celtic manager (no disrespect intended). Sure he’s a decent coach but I’m not comfortable settling for decent given the club stature / status.
Please stop falling into the trap of seeking "stature" and "world class". These are marketing gimmicks.
Certain managers work better for certain teams and certain leagues. Jose Mourinho and Antonio Conte came to us as "world-class" managerial appointments, and neither of them produced good results. Their philosophies and tactics that worked for them with other teams were incompatible with our squad.

If we want to get real about challenging for trophies, we have to start thinking outside of the box. Hiring someone like Ange Postecoglou is absolutely the right path to take; he has a proven track record of turning difficult situations around, playing a brand of quality attacking football, and getting all his players on board. Is he a guaranteed success here? No, but you know what? He'd still be a far more exciting appointment than a bore like Brendan Rodgers or Luis Enrique.

Every one of you should know exactly what we'd get with a plodder like Rodgers; this guy has been around for over 10 years now, got his teams playing decent footy at times, but never won the league, never had that winning edge, that killer instinct. A guy like him would only ever maintain the status quo of being a 7th-3rd team.
 

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Think they’re underplaying Enrique’s chances too. I’m sure the Napoli President said he’d been holding on to a Prem job and we’re the only suitable candidates in that respect.

But he also said a month or so ago he doesn’t see his next job in England. So who knows.

Still another week or so to go and apart from the same regurgitated Kane story every day, they’ve nothing else to write about on us or much else going on in the PL right now.
 

Japhet

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Unite the club? He’s one of the few managers who divides opinion strongly right from the start, like ahem, ahem, Nuno Espirito Santo

I wouldn't put too much store in fan's opinions. There were plenty who wanted DeBoer over Pochettino and plenty who guaranteed Mourinho and Conte would lead us to glory..
 

Tonio

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Fuck it, I'm all in on Ange. The doubters can suck my shrivelled nutsack.

He's the only viable candidate left that who could cuddle me in his arms like an avuncular bear and make me feel like a precious little cub, while also playing unabashedly fun, attacking football.

Enrique will get fucked off with Levy within 6 months and yearn for his Barca days, while Nagelsmann and Gallardo very very obviously just aren't happening.

Let's just go for it, bring in an actual decent bloke and, at the very fucking least, make supporting spurs fun again.

Aussie Martin Jol mk 2 for me, Clive.
Deary deary me.
 

Wingnut_on_the_go

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With a lot of people seemingly unhappy with Postecoglou being linked, can you imagine the meltdown if Emma Hayes was mentioned as a potential candidate!
 

worcestersauce

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I wouldn't put too much store in fan's opinions. There were plenty who wanted DeBoer over Pochettino and plenty who guaranteed Mourinho and Conte would lead us to glory..
Ah yes but there were also plenty who didn't. 😊
 

Nebby

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Just give us a manager that plays attractive football and is willing to go all in on the domestic cups. That will do for starters.
 

Trees

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I’m totally on the Ange train. I’m a pretty good judge of character and I think he’s exactly who we need right now.
He’s earnt this opportunity with hard yards across various leagues.
I do however appreciate that fan base split down the middle on him.
 

Dov67

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Seinfeld's genius was that it was literally a show about nothing. This thread certainly has more than that but the number repetitive posts had me thinking. How much time have i spent in this thread?
  • Did a word count on one page of the thread. 2557 words
  • Adjusted it downwards by 20% to account for names, footers, etc. and ignored tweets and embedded articles other than what was captured in the thread. = 2045.6 words
  • Multiplied that by 1447 pages = 2.96 M Words
  • Divided that by the average reading speed - 238 words per minute = 12.4k minutes to read the entire thread
  • Divided that by 60 = 207 hours to read the thread
  • Added a +/- factor of 25% = 155 to 259 hours
  • Writing posts was not factored into this calculation.
My hypothesis: Following Spurs is very bad for your personal productivity
Speaking of Seinfeld, remember the episode when George has an epiphany that every decision he’s ever made, every instinct he’s ever had has been wrong and from now on he will do the opposite.

Praying that Daniel Levy has a similar epiphany
 
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