our ready made england international DM

[doubledecker]

We already have a DM who has performed excellently there for his country - our very own oft- injured Ledley King. He also did the job pretty well for us in the past. Since it is being put forward by many that Woody and Corluka should be given a run of games together , then when Ledley is fit why not put him in front of our back 4 instead of inside it ? We might even find we can at last get a balanced 4 in midfield. I would rather he played there than Zokora or Ohara or Jenas.

Lennon - King- Jenas- Modric

or maybe

Lennon- King- Modric- Gio

or even

Betley- King- Modric- Lennon

Anything wrong with that ? His experience would be a great asset- maybe he could be our Makelele type figure. He might even get injured less often !

By the way he could also do that job in a midfield 5.

 

[AngerManagement]

I always thought King was equally good in DM if not better there then at CB (aside one game for England which seems to have turned everyone into believing he is much better at CB)

However, the midfield is a more physically demanding postion and King in his current condition is not going to be the soultion. He can't play 2 games in a row, we need a settled midfield to provide stability to the whole midfield....as such we need a DM or aggressive/all action midfielder that can play week in week out and be the life blood of our team. (King is not that)

 

[PT]

He got given the run around in that DM position while playing for England against Argentina. The press slated that performance and he was not tried there again for England.

Without doubt his best position is central defence but a lot of his game is his pace and we've all been witness to the demise of his major asset.

 

[joey55]

He got given the run around in that DM position while playing for England against Argentina. The press slated that performance and he was not tried there again for England.

Without doubt his best position is central defence but a lot of his game is his pace and we've all been witness to the demise of his major asset.

That was just down to media ignorance. He was playing in a 2 man CM against a 3 man CM and the spare man was non other than Riquelme. Who wouldn't have been given the run around in those circumstances? When Riquleme is on his game, he is the best in the world. There is no one of that calibre in the Prem. The best he'd come uo against re the likes of Gerrard and Lampard. But it doesn't matter as King doesn't look like he run half the time thesedays.

 

[nicdic]

So, a player who has problems with his knees, whilst playing in defence, you want to play in midfield, where he's going to have to do a lot more running, and there will be a lot more strain on it? Also not his best position.

Sounds sensible.

 

[gibbs131]

I agree.

-------------Bent---------------
------Dos Santos----------------
Lennon---King--Modric-----Bentley
Bale----Woody----Corky---Hutton
------------Gomes---------------

Dos Santos should hover more the to the left to make up for that being our soft side.

 

[hodspurs]

play are best defender in midfield..no thanks.

 

[doubledecker]

So, a player who has problems with his knees, whilst playing in defence, you want to play in midfield, where he's going to have to do a lot more running, and there will be a lot more strain on it? Also not his best position.

Sounds sensible.

I don't remember Carrick doing a whole lot of running in the DM position . It may not be King's best position but he would still be better there than Zokora or Ohara. I think the parallel with Makalele is valid ( who played there well into his 30's ) - sitting in front of the back 4 , doing the simple things to get attacks started. Someone who reads the game as well as King does can do it without charging around diving into tackles like a demented Joey Barton. And I don't agree that he is quite the cripple that many portray - he may have lost a yard of pace but that is not so vital in the holding role.

 

[doubledecker]

play are best defender in midfield..no thanks.

The best defender that most would leave on the bench ? Better as our DM than on the bench leaving the DM job to be done badly by Zokora and Ohara

 

[SpurSince57]

Who would leave him on the bench?

At the moment he seems unable to play more than one game a week, tops. Perhaps he's better off playing that game in his best position rather than further unnecessary buggering about with the formation.

 

[doubledecker]

Who would leave him on the bench?

At the moment he seems unable to play more than one game a week, tops. Perhaps he's better off playing that game in his best position rather than further unnecessary buggering about with the formation.

So who would you play in that position SS57 ?

I dont think it would mean buggering about with the formation. On the contrary. Ramos himself prefers 4-4-2. Arguably the players feel more comfortable with it ( the table does not lie ) and King as DM should allow us to play 4-4-2 since we have no other strong candidate for that position.

 

[Zapsta]

Oh fuck off.

 

[doubledecker]

Oh fuck off.

No wonder you have been able to send in 17000 posts if most of them are as well thought out as that one

 

[Zapsta]

No wonder you have been able to send in 17000 posts if most of them are as well thought out as that one

I always mix up you and Bus-Conductor, but I'm pretty sure it's because you both talk utter bollocks, so no biggy.

 

[SpurSince57]

So who would you play in that position SS57 ?

I dont think it would mean buggering about with the formation. On the contrary. Ramos himself prefers 4-4-2. Arguably the players feel more comfortable with it ( the table does not lie ) and King as DM should allow us to play 4-4-2 since we have no other strong candidate for that position.

Someone who can play there game in, game out, even if they're by no means ideal. Zokora, probably. Or maybe Corluka.

Of course it's going to mean buggering about with the formation if he can only manage one game in two at best. It's bad enough having to chop and change at CB without chopping and changing at DM when we don't actually need to.

 

[doubledecker]

Someone who can play there game in, game out, even if they're by no means ideal. Zokora, probably. Or maybe Corluka.

Of course it's going to mean buggering about with the formation if he can only manage one game in two at best. It's bad enough having to chop and change at CB without chopping and changing at DM when we don't actually need to.

The total lack of team shape and pattern that we have displayed suggests to me that what we have tried in MF is not working. I fail to see how Zokora can be our DM in a midfield 4. It has not worked and I dont see how it is going to work. But are you saying that Zokora is a better DM than King ? And I'm sure you recently advocated sticking with Woodgate and Corluka at CD ( I agree with that BTW ).And if you agree with that then why not go with King at DM who is our only player proven in that position ?

 

[doubledecker]

I always mix up you and Bus-Conductor, but I'm pretty sure it's because you both talk utter bollocks, so no biggy.

Another incisive one ! Keep it going mate, you might reach 18,000 without having any real contribution to make.

 

[SpurSince57]

The total lack of team shape and pattern that we have displayed suggests to me that what we have tried in MF is not working. I fail to see how Zokora can be our DM in a midfield 4. It has not worked and I dont see how it is going to work. But are you saying that Zokora is a better DM than King ? And I'm sure you recently advocated sticking with Woodgate and Corluka at CD ( I agree with that BTW ).And if you agree with that then why not go with King at DM who is our only player proven in that position ?

Zokora's OK in a midfield three, not in a two.

But if we need King at CB for Europe (unless you'd really prefer Dawson) you are still left with the problem of who's going to play at DM in front of Woody and Corluka when King isn't available. The obvious candidate is, in fact, Huddlestone, but despite losing 25% of the entire squad's alleged excess poundage the new Lean Mean Machine Hudd appears to be no more mobile than the old chunkster.

 

[doubledecker]

Zokora's OK in a midfield three, not in a two.

But if we need King at CB for Europe (unless you'd really prefer Dawson) you are still left with the problem of who's going to play at DM in front of Woody and Corluka when King isn't available. The obvious candidate is, in fact, Huddlestone, but despite losing 25% of the entire squad's alleged excess poundage the new Lean Mean Machine Hudd appears to be no more mobile than the old chunkster.

Unfortunately i can't solve that problem inflicted on us by our poor transfer dealings - my view is that King should play as many games as possible at DM and when he is not available manage with the others until January.

 

[stemark44]

If I had to chose a DM from our current squad,I would go for Corluka!