PL sponsorship ban

[ShelfWatcher]

Problem is Newcastle will now be able to throw the best lawyers at the premier league, just like City have always done to make up their own rules

City have never overturned a Prem ruling AFAIK and I doubt they would be able to do so over this.
Have the Prem ever stated that City should be deducted points over FFP, I don't think so.
Maybe they have been fined and successfully fought it, but I don't remember that either.
I remember we successfully fought, what I think was an FA ruling. So there is precedent in that sense. But that was a different type of case I think, as we were singled out for punishment over what was generally acknowledged to be a wide spread practice

 

[Col_M]

What odds can I get on a couple of premier league chairmen being killed and chopped up in an embassy somewhere?

It’s really not funny.

 

[Delboy75]

What’s screwed with the PL is you’ve got “ the PL “ deciding who can be owners but then the clubs make the rules by majority. It’s like the doorman letting you in to be told you can’t chat to any women or get a drink. Will take Newcastle at least 10 years to grow their revenue to a decent level where they can spend big within FFP.

 

[Clockspur]

I’m glad the clubs are doing something about this, it kills the game having a team that’s won nothing since 1955 suddenly competing for elite trophies due to nothing more than a lottery win.

If they build it over say 10 years then I have no issue with that, I just think it’s wrong that clubs can fast track to success by just buying everything.

Otherwise we may as well have just joined the super league

 

[Delboy75]

Brady the main driver apparently. Bet levy was right by her side haha.

 

[Tucker]

Brady the main driver apparently. Bet levy was right by her side haha.

Good. I’m glad our club is taking an active role in this.

 

[Klinsmannic]

Sadly I doubt this changes anything- they'll easily find a friendly, "independent" company operating in Saudi to sponsor the club. Also FFP just seems meaningless now as it's not properly enforced anyway.

 

[ShelfWatcher]

Sadly I doubt this changes anything- they'll easily find a friendly, "independent" company operating in Saudi to sponsor the club. Also FFP just seems meaningless now as it's not properly enforced anyway.

You may well be right. We'll see what happens. If it only makes Newcastle seen as enemies of the other clubs, might do some good. Might not as well, time will tell. There should be some kickback against City and Newcastle, so good the Prem are trying at least

 

[brendanb50]

Brady the main driver apparently. Bet levy was right by her side haha.

If we're talking about fair market prices for things, shouldn't West Ham's deal for the Olympic Stadium also be a bone of contention. Very cheap, super long lease for a brand new stadium?

 

[brendanb50]

City have never overturned a Prem ruling AFAIK and I doubt they would be able to do so over this.
Have the Prem ever stated that City should be deducted points over FFP, I don't think so.
Maybe they have been fined and successfully fought it, but I don't remember that either.
I remember we successfully fought, what I think was an FA ruling. So there is precedent in that sense. But that was a different type of case I think, as we were singled out for punishment over what was generally acknowledged to be a wide spread practice

Exactly. Hard to try and close the door when City have operated at least on the surface at a level which works for the FA. Perhaps this sponsorship piece was the final piece of the puzzle in terms of limiting financial doping of this kind but we'll see.

For what it's worth i agree with the proposal. We've seen clubs go to the wall when their money/funding leaves and artificially inflating sponsorship revenue isn't a financially solid idea for the actual club in the long term.

 

[JamieSpursCommunityUser]

Newcastle saying it’s unlawful ?

If and when NUFC pipe up, the 18 clubs should all simultaneously tweet them this.

Assessing the Saudi Government's role in the killing of Jamal Khashoggi.
By the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, United States of America.

https://www.dni.gov/files/ODNI/documents/assessments/Assessment-Saudi-Gov-Role-in-JK-Death-20210226v2.pdf

 

[JamieSpursCommunityUser]

Of course Boris won’t intervene, too much money being funnelled into individual and party coffers, as I’ve said before on a few threads let’s not piss off the oil producers….

Last time I checked, I believe the UK gets around 10% of crude oil imports from KSA, and 0% of it's natural gas (much to my surprise).

Not nothing, but similar significance to our Gas imports from Russia, who we immediately sanctioned over the Salisbury murder.

So whilst energy security isn't necessarily an over riding factor, I believe KSA have some form of leverage over Boris, given the way the purchase sailed through unchallenged.

Could be compromat, donations, or the faintest glimpse of a shoddy trade deal to wave around.

Who knows? But given the unpopularity of this deal outside of Newcastle, it will be interesting to see which competing side of Boris' vacuous self interest interest wins the day.

 

[PLTuck]

Hmmm how many guesses are needed to work out the other one that didn't like this rule?

It's a good, relatively simple way of calming things down for a little while, but City and Newoil will have their army of lawyers all over it, and they will just work out another way to launder their dirty money into the club.

 

[robbiedee]

Hmmm how many guesses are needed to work out the other one that didn't like this rule?

I think I read that 18 clubs were all for the month freeze (until it's passed as law) 1 was against (Newcastle) and Man City abstained from voting... (can't think why)

I'm sure they'll find a way to inject their cash into Newcastle but at least this slows them down and also the country's football community is watching them closely

 

[sly1]

It’s really not funny.

I don’t actually agree with this. It is quite funny, partly because it highlights the grotesque absurdity of the situation.

Yes, it is unthinkable that Levy would be killed and chopped up… because it would be bad PR. Other than that, there’s not much difference. They have killed people for being an inconvenience.

 

[Col_M]

I don’t actually agree with this. It is quite funny, partly because it highlights the grotesque absurdity of the situation.

Yes, it is unthinkable that Levy would be killed and chopped up… because it would be bad PR. Other than that, there’s not much difference. They have killed people for being an inconvenience.

Im had you get a giggle out of it.
Let’s have a laugh about child abuse next week.

 

[PLTuck]

Im had you get a giggle out of it.
Let’s have a laugh about child abuse next week.

I'll get on the phone to that **** Frankie Boyle.

It's a strange one, as I do believe that nothing should be off limits for comedy. However unless it's done well it just comes across as ****ish. In this case it wasn't done well.

 

[HNIM]

They should also ban reciprocal agreements so that the Saudis and Mansour don't cut a cross-financing deal.

 

[PLTuck]

They should also ban reciprocal agreements so that the Saudis and Mansour don't cut a cross-financing deal.

It seems it will not be applied retrospectively, so City can continue to benefit from their shady sponsorships that are already in place.

 

[chrissivad]

It seems it will not be applied retrospectively, so City can continue to benefit from their shady sponsorships that are already in place.

When do City's sponsorships run until?

I'm guessing that will be when this kicks in for them, or I am hoping that's when they have to find a new sponsor