PLAYER WATCH: Benjamin Stambouli

[SpursTillIDie1882]

Who?

bentaleb

 

[Lufti]

bentaleb

You don't think he's good for a 19 year old?

 

[aliyid]

Decent read on Stambouli, sounds like we've uncovered a hidden gem. Can't wait to see him in a Spurs shirt

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/everything-you-need-know-about-benjamin-stambouli

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Someone posted an article in General Football where Bielsa had publicly stated he wanted to sign Stambouli for Marseille. I'd known he'd rejected Marseille for personal reasons (they'd sacked his dad) but hadn't realised Bielsa had personally requested him.

Bielsa is, of course, the former mentor of our own Pochettino. Wonder if he recommended him to Poch when it became clear Stambouli wouldn't be signing for them ?

 

[Bofbro]

Someone posted an article in General Football where Bielsa had publicly stated he wanted to sign Stambouli for Marseille. I'd known he'd rejected Marseille for personal reasons (they'd sacked his dad) but hadn't realised Bielsa had personally requested him.

Bielsa is, of course, the former mentor of our own Pochettino. Wonder if he recommended him to Poch when it became clear Stambouli wouldn't be signing for them ?

He wanted him has a CB though.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Any chance any of our resident ITK's can shed some light on who was the driving force for this signing ?

@JJetset @TrickyVilla @Breezer @rebrab etc etc

 

[Bus-Conductor]

He wanted him has a CB though.

Did he say that ?

 

[Bofbro]

Did he say that ?

Benji did, and Bielsa said he wanted Benji or Toby Alderweireld but ended up with Doria.

 

[Blake Griffin]

i guess deschamps doesn't think much of him considering he's never picked him for the national side, nor blanc for that matter. maybe he'll get more exposure playing for us.

 

[spurs9]

Someone posted an article in General Football where Bielsa had publicly stated he wanted to sign Stambouli for Marseille. I'd known he'd rejected Marseille for personal reasons (they'd sacked his dad) but hadn't realised Bielsa had personally requested him.

Bielsa is, of course, the former mentor of our own Pochettino. Wonder if he recommended him to Poch when it became clear Stambouli wouldn't be signing for them ?

Was Bielsa actually a mentor to Poch? I thought they just had similar styles. Bielsa was only ever Poch's manager for 2 years when Poch was between 18-20 and then 2 months when Poch was 26, which doesn't seem enough time or at the right age, to be mentored as a manager.

 

[Yid]

Was Bielsa actually a mentor to Poch? I thought they just had similar styles. Bielsa was only ever Poch's manager for 2 years when Poch was between 18-20 and then 2 months when Poch was 26, which doesn't seem enough time or at the right age, to be mentored as a manager.

I suppose Poch wasn't mentored by Bielsa in the "traditional" sense of the word, but he is widely considered Bielsa system student (so to speak).

Please read this excellent article at your leisure (it's not so much pertaining to historical connection between the two, but more so the tactical aspect and its influence on Poch), as follows: http://eplindex.com/37849/marcelo-bielsas-tactical-influence-mauricio-pochettino-tactics.html
http://eplindex.com/37849/marcelo-bielsas-tactical-influence-mauricio-pochettino-tactics.html

 

[Syn_13]

i guess deschamps doesn't think much of him considering he's never picked him for the national side, nor blanc for that matter. maybe he'll get more exposure playing for us.

To be fair, he has some excellent competition for that spot in the French team. They've got a lot of good CMs right now. Capoue has lost his place due to his very injury prone season last year, but before he joined us he'd edged his way into the side. Still unsure if Stambouli and Capoue will play together, but it might be a case of the two of them fighting it out to try and grab a spot in the French team.

 

[DaSpurs]

i guess deschamps doesn't think much of him considering he's never picked him for the national side, nor blanc for that matter. maybe he'll get more exposure playing for us.

Very true he'll get more exposure, but I don't think it's any sleight to him he's not been picked for this French national team. France is probably it's very strongest at his position. That nation produces defensive mids like Nigeria does pacey wingers or Croatia creative mids.

 

[rebrab]

Any chance any of our resident ITK's can shed some light on who was the driving force for this signing ?

@JJetset @TrickyVilla @Breezer @rebrab etc etc

Party line would be... chosen by committee?

Your actual answer would probably be a combination of Poch's requested attributes and our scouts finding him. Our scouting system works in a way that we constantly have people scouring various leagues - whether that be by being at games, or 'proper football men' (as Harry would say) watching the games then speaking to Levy and advising him to take a closer look (which would involve scouts being sent round). On the flip side we have specified scouts who look for certain attributes or positions in more detail, and we also have people who monitor statistics very closely (we're one of the hottest in europe on this) to find suitable players, people running down contracts etcetera. The statistics element is very interesting as it doesn't just include 'squawka-esque' statistics such as average passing length but also speed, prowess in other sports (I know it seems ridiculous but we do have access to some), there's even rumours we knew Yedlins bench press before we signed him, that admittedly I only heard after it was a done deal.

So basically I have no idea, but it has been implied that he is a Schneiderlin 'lite' so I would GUESS that it was Poch's suggestion and then one or a combination of these other methods that found him individually.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

I suppose Poch wasn't mentored by Bielsa in the "traditional" sense of the word, but he is widely considered Bielsa system student (so to speak).

Please read this excellent article at your leisure (it's not so much pertaining to historical connection between the two, but more so the tactical aspect and its influence on Poch), as follows:
http://eplindex.com/37849/marcelo-bielsas-tactical-influence-mauricio-pochettino-tactics.html

Interesting stuff. This bit is very relevant to how Capoue tries to play - remember some of those long, vertical and incisive passes he played in pre season.

Southampton also played 56 accurate long passes (from the 77 attempted) in the game which showed that Pochettino’s approach to vertical passes is different from other possession-based teams in the league; Arsenal, for example, only made 37 accurate long passes (from 54 attempts) against Fulham on the same day of Premier League action – in fact, no other team in these first two weeks of the Premier League has played more long balls than Southampton against Sunderland, apart from, Southampton themselves, against West Brom in their opening fixture; in that game, they attempted 83 long passes. These aren’t long balls pumped up field, they’re Bielsa inspired vertical passes, or “fast transitional passes” which statistically have been recognised as long passes.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Party line would be... chosen by committee?

Your actual answer would probably be a combination of Poch's requested attributes and our scouts finding him. Our scouting system works in a way that we constantly have people scouring various leagues - whether that be by being at games, or 'proper football men' (as Harry would say) watching the games then speaking to Levy and advising him to take a closer look (which would involve scouts being sent round). On the flip side we have specified scouts who look for certain attributes or positions in more detail, and we also have people who monitor statistics very closely (we're one of the hottest in europe on this) to find suitable players, people running down contracts etcetera. The statistics element is very interesting as it doesn't just include 'squawka-esque' statistics such as average passing length but also speed, prowess in other sports (I know it seems ridiculous but we do have access to some), there's even rumours we knew Yedlins bench press before we signed him, that admittedly I only heard after it was a done deal.

So basically I have no idea, but it has been implied that he is a Schneiderlin 'lite' so I would GUESS that it was Poch's suggestion and then one or a combination of these other methods that found him individually.

Cheers Rebrab. If you've got any other info like this about any of our signings over the last few years I'd love to hear them.

Shame Harry's "football men" couldn't tell the difference between VDV and Suarez eh ?

 

[DaSpurs]

Party line would be... chosen by committee?

Your actual answer would probably be a combination of Poch's requested attributes and our scouts finding him. Our scouting system works in a way that we constantly have people scouring various leagues - whether that be by being at games, or 'proper football men' (as Harry would say) watching the games then speaking to Levy and advising him to take a closer look (which would involve scouts being sent round). On the flip side we have specified scouts who look for certain attributes or positions in more detail, and we also have people who monitor statistics very closely (we're one of the hottest in europe on this) to find suitable players, people running down contracts etcetera. The statistics element is very interesting as it doesn't just include 'squawka-esque' statistics such as average passing length but also speed, prowess in other sports (I know it seems ridiculous but we do have access to some), there's even rumours we knew Yedlins bench press before we signed him, that admittedly I only heard after it was a done deal.

So basically I have no idea, but it has been implied that he is a Schneiderlin 'lite' so I would GUESS that it was Poch's suggestion and then one or a combination of these other methods that found him individually.

Woh uh, this is an incredibly insightful post. Thank you very much for this. Enjoyed reading this more than any snippet of ITK over the summer.

 

[Francis Gibbs]

Benji did, and Bielsa said he wanted Benji or Toby Alderweireld but ended up with Doria.

Ironic that we wanted MS and ended up with him

 

[jonathanhotspur]

Party line would be... chosen by committee?

Your actual answer would probably be a combination of Poch's requested attributes and our scouts finding him. Our scouting system works in a way that we constantly have people scouring various leagues - whether that be by being at games, or 'proper football men' (as Harry would say) watching the games then speaking to Levy and advising him to take a closer look (which would involve scouts being sent round). On the flip side we have specified scouts who look for certain attributes or positions in more detail, and we also have people who monitor statistics very closely (we're one of the hottest in europe on this) to find suitable players, people running down contracts etcetera. The statistics element is very interesting as it doesn't just include 'squawka-esque' statistics such as average passing length but also speed, prowess in other sports (I know it seems ridiculous but we do have access to some), there's even rumours we knew Yedlins bench press before we signed him, that admittedly I only heard after it was a done deal.

So basically I have no idea, but it has been implied that he is a Schneiderlin 'lite' so I would GUESS that it was Poch's suggestion and then one or a combination of these other methods that found him individually.

Why did we sell VDV, rebrab? Did we feel that we had a good replacement for him in the shape of Siggy?

 

[rebrab]

Why did we sell VDV, rebrab? Did we feel that we had a good replacement for him in the shape of Siggy?

He was on a decline, we received a good offer for him and we took it. Sig we bought that summer because he was a bargain. A lot of people also say VDV forced the move because of his wife but I don't believe thats the case, I think he would have stayed