Player Watch: Bryan Gil

[C1w8]

I think bulking up is over-emphasised, particularly in the Premier League. The League has changed where it has become more technical. There are players you could consider light-weight who have or are excelling - Bernardo Silva, David Silva, Manuel Lanzini and Ramires are good examples, as well as Phil Foden. Balance, technical ability, refinement of skill, spatial awareness, timing, correction/elimination of mistakes is equally important. The aforementioned players have this and have developed to become successful in this league.

I'm certain we carefully considered Bryan Gil's physique and suitability to the League whilst scouting and eventually signing him. Also, they have certain skills where a larger physique could cause a hindrance - i.e quick bursts of speed, sudden change of movements, agility, fleet-footedness, quick dribbling etc. Neymar is a great example of this - it's his natural physique coupled with his natural ability that allows him to be successful and he has nurtured and developed in this way - changing what has made him successful may not necessarily be better for him. Also, Gil and Sarr are young and they will naturally as part of their development as professional athletes develop their physique

Gil and Sarr certainly do need consistent game-time and to refine some of their raw skills in order to develop to excel and perform consistently.

Same....i think if he's got the tools/can develop then bulking up is not necessarily an issue, but i also think some of the talk about who he could become and maybe he should play lwb etc is way over the top for someone with his production (career wise as well as spurs)....as others have said he might be the same size as those players mentioned but he's not close to being on the same trajectory right now

Feels like a case of wrong time wrong place for him if he cant crack contes squad this pre season and gets farmed out again, but also us as we paid a hefty fee to get him in.

Pape Sarr has a bit more time on his hands and given that his first loan was back to Metz, effectively we just agreed last year to buy him this year so he's almost a transfer in this year in practice.

 

[dontcallme]

There was a lot of talk about Modric being too lightweight for PL as I recall. He turned out ok.

Very different players.

Modric never really struggled with the physicality of the Prem and his use of his body meant it was never a problem. It was always a lazy narrative with regards to Modric.

 

[mil1lion]

Sarr is 6’1”. He’s quite tall for a midfielder.

Small and tall are 2 different things, maybe should say slim rather than small. Sarr is very slim like Gil so could do with bulking up a bit to handle the physical premier league.

 

[N'Obody]

I think bulking up is over-emphasised, particularly in the Premier League. The League has changed where it has become more technical. There are players you could consider light-weight who have or are excelling - Bernardo Silva, David Silva, Manuel Lanzini and Ramires are good examples, as well as Phil Foden. Balance, technical ability, refinement of skill, spatial awareness, timing, correction/elimination of mistakes is equally important. The aforementioned players have this and have developed to become successful in this league.

I'm certain we carefully considered Bryan Gil's physique and suitability to the League whilst scouting and eventually signing him. Also, they have certain skills where a larger physique could cause a hindrance - i.e quick bursts of speed, sudden change of movements, agility, fleet-footedness, quick dribbling etc. Neymar is a great example of this - it's his natural physique coupled with his natural ability that allows him to be successful and he has nurtured and developed in this way - changing what has made him successful may not necessarily be better for him. Also, Gil and Sarr are young and they will naturally as part of their development as professional athletes develop their physique

Gil and Sarr certainly do need consistent game-time and to refine some of their raw skills in order to develop to excel and perform consistently.

This.

I don't think either of these 2 need to bulk up that much. What they need to work on is more strength and endurance training. Build up their overall and core strength to be powerful, explosive with great balance. By improving those aspects, they wouldn't essentially get bulkier, but have muscles which are more dense and compact, which wouldn't affect their natural talent too much. If anything it will enhance their current skill set and allow them to be able to hold their own against bigger opponents.

Excess muscle can hinder players who are more technical and skillful, so they would need to work on power and balance more to utilise their natural ability. I can think of so many players who would be considered slim but were absolute powerhouses which make you question reality itself.

 

[InOffMeLeftShin]

Very different players.

Modric never really struggled with the physicality of the Prem and his use of his body meant it was never a problem. It was always a lazy narrative with regards to Modric.

Different players I agree, although there are definitely elements of Gil’s game that had a Modric-like quality (all be it not as good). The way he can create space with his first touch, the way he can shift direction and some of his off ball movement in his cameos (and that is really all we got of him) we’re very promising if not always impactful.

Modric is absolutely elite at using his lower centre of gravity and taking the physical pressure and shifting out of it. Gil is still found wanting in those areas which is why when he cut back in to traffic he struggled more. That is even despite Nuno getting the heavy bags out seemingly every training session and trying to knock players over. I think rather that “bulking up”, although he could definitely get stronger, Gil needs to learn how to get lower when receiving the ball and how to roll out of impact. He has the ability to shift the ball with his first touch and not absorb full impacts and in turn he could take players completely out of the game.

His work ethic is there and he never stopped trying in games for us but that also ended up looking like he was brushed off too much defensively and became a bit chicken with his head cut off.

I think he has the technical ability to offer us something different, he just still has a lot to learn/adapt to. Conte was right that he wasn’t ready for the moment we were in. I don’t think it means he’ll never be ready.

 

[InOffMeLeftShin]

He played as a right forward today. Obviously Kulusevski missed that part of the session but Gil played on the right, with Lucas on the left and Richarlison central. On another rotation, Kane played centrally, Son left and Richarlison right. Son and Lucas were only guys to play on the left.

 

[taidgh]

As I mentioned in the other thread, his finishing was abysmal. He could use a bit of time after training to work on it, a la Kane.

 

[fridgemagnet]

Very different players.

Modric never really struggled with the physicality of the Prem and his use of his body meant it was never a problem. It was always a lazy narrative with regards to Modric.

It only became a thing because Wenger said it, then it got parroted by that arsehat Jamie Redknapp whenever he ran out of intelligence to form a sentence...

 

[InOffMeLeftShin]

As I mentioned in the other thread, his finishing was abysmal. He could use a bit of time after training to work on it, a la Kane.

Some of his finishes were awful. Looked like he was snatching at them. He had a few really nice touches though and some nice link up play but yeh finishing was abysmal. Maybe that he is why he ran so hard at the end, wanted to make a good impression.

 

[Ickle73]

Quality

 

[HNIM]

Legend…?

 

[mil1lion]

Quality

I can't find this on Spurs shop

 

[DogsOfWar]

I think Gil could be the surprise player for this season.
To me he's a hybrid of Moura and Kulu, has that Lucas dash of magic but combined with a brain.

I can see why they thought he wasn't ready for the Prem last season but I think a couple of months under Conte might prepare him for it this one.

 

[djhotspur]

I think Gil could be the surprise player for this season.
To me he's a hybrid of Moura and Kulu, has that Lucas dash of magic but combined with a brain.

I can see why they thought he wasn't ready for the Prem last season but I think a couple of months under Conte might prepare him for it this one.

Yet he can’t shoot

 

[DogsOfWar]

Yet he can’t shoot

Doesn't really need to if he can supply Son and Kane.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Doesn't really need to if he can supply Son and Kane.

Anyone in the front 3 needs to score and create.

Im all for giving Gil a chance as there looks a player in there and as we know with likes of Kane,Bale etc some just need time to get to the level of their potential.

That being said Gil looked very raw last season and the gap between his level and the level we need him to be to be our 6th attacker is pretty big IMO.

Conte & FP will make the right call either way Towards end of pre-season.

I think he needs one more loan, regular games and we need to sign a 6th attacking player or an AM who can play CM or WF/n.o10, a la Maddison.

If we are balls out wanting to win trophies we need to be ruthless and as conte says we need a squad with bigger numbers but also more quality. The top top teams have minimum 2 players off the bench who can change a game, we currently have about 1.5 in Richarlison & Lucas, and with 5 sub rule and 4 competitions it’s something that really needs addressing imo.

 

[Silky Skills]

Yet he can’t shoot

Moura only finds the net in Amsterdam ........

 

[JCRD]

I think Gil could be the surprise player for this season.
To me he's a hybrid of Moura and Kulu, has that Lucas dash of magic but combined with a brain.

I can see why they thought he wasn't ready for the Prem last season but I think a couple of months under Conte might prepare him for it this one.

There is no basis to suggest he would be a surprise, apart from being able to run, but I would keep him if we aren't bringing anyone else in a creative or forward sense.

We have five players for the front three, I think sox should be the number, so I'd have Gil as that sixth player personally. Think, like you say, he can contribute and conjure something up. He can also play those early round of games in both cups, perhaps a game here or there where they will come thick and fast.

 

[DogsOfWar]

Anyone in the front 3 needs to score and create.

Im all for giving Gil a chance as there looks a player in there and as we know with likes of Kane,Bale etc some just need time to get to the level of their potential.

That being said Gil looked very raw last season and the gap between his level and the level we need him to be to be our 6th attacker is pretty big IMO.

Conte & FP will make the right call either way Towards end of pre-season.

I think he needs one more loan, regular games and we need to sign a 6th attacking player or an AM who can play CM or WF/n.o10, a la Maddison.

If we are balls out wanting to win trophies we need to be ruthless and as conte says we need a squad with bigger numbers but also more quality. The top top teams have minimum 2 players off the bench who can change a game, we currently have about 1.5 in Richarlison & Lucas, and with 5 sub rule and 4 competitions it’s something that really needs addressing imo.

I'd love to be able to roll out some stats or insightful counter points but I don't have any!

I just watch him and think there's something special about him.
And unlike some of the others I've seen like Taraabt or Dalmat who look to have a bit about them he looks grounded enough not to waste his talent.
I think he could do the job I hoped Moura would (or at least more often), come on and do something different to change a game.

But, like yourself, I have faith in AC and FP to make the right decision.

 

[DogsOfWar]

There is no basis to suggest he would be a surprise, apart from being able to run, but I would keep him if we aren't bringing anyone else in a creative or forward sense.

We have five players for the front three, I think sox should be the number, so I'd have Gil as that sixth player personally. Think, like you say, he can contribute and conjure something up. He can also play those early round of games in both cups, perhaps a game here or there where they will come thick and fast.

I think the 5 subs is a bit of a game changer where fringe players are concerned.
As you say, we currently only have two attacking subs, so there is plenty of potential for Gil to get minutes.