Player watch: Danny Rose

[Majick]

Depression can be awful, and while everyone gets it differently (as far as I can tell) seeing the team succeed without him must have been tough for him as he'd really come on in the last couple of seasons before his injury.

It's a very brave move to go public on this. I can't remember another active top flight footballer in recent times who's been open about significant mental health issues (I think Beckham said he had OCD at one point?) and I hope it helps him and can help others to seek help/treatment as appropriate. The most important thing is that he gets whatever help that he needs going forward.

It sounds like the club helped as much as it could (arranging for him to see a psychiatrist) but as with any issue like this the problem needs to be diagnosed and the patient needs to accept the diagnosis and be willing to work on it. That's nowhere near as straightforward as going to the physio with a pulled hamstring, obviously.

 

[CantSmileWithoutYou]

Now Danny Rose has gone public on his depression, and family issues, which some of us knew. Let it be a LESSON when you are getting hints to ‘lay off’ to understand!...

Thanks Herc. Now I understand why you couldn't tell as it really wasn't your place to on this, it had to come from Rose himself.

Still begs the question, who let him near an interview with The Sun, if it was known he was in that state of mind?

Did the club know prior to it? And why the fuck did his agents let him do it?

Depression is so bad and can last for years. I know as I've been suffering from this for over 3 years now so I hope he is in a better place and on the road to recovery. It's hard.

 

[Cornpattbuck]

Weird how the Guardian, champion of champions of these issues, simply bills this story as: "I had to get away from Spurs."

Funny old game, funny old newspaper...

 

[DCSPUR]

Weird how the Guardian, champion of champions of these issues, simply bills this story as: "I had to get away from Spurs."

Funny old game, funny old newspaper...

Guardian sports is on a different planet to their news and ed side. Look at the Abu Dhabi FC lovefest year in year out

 

[sausage]

I know from experience it doesn't always work like that. I attempted suicide twice as a younger man before anyone else was aware I had some issues. Everyone is different of course but there was, and still is, a huge stigma attached to mental illness, especially in young men who should be man enough to "get over it". It's easy to bottle things up and not let on you have problems.

Definitely agree with this. When I was a younger lad in my late teens, I went through some stuff with parents separating and mother having a slightly schitzo new fella (could turn on you instantly - came home from work one day and he'd burnt all my stuff). My sister was doing a psychology degree and mother was a social worker, but I was told to "grow up", "get over it" etc and got practically disowned when I had prescriptions. Not many professionals imo (never mind normal folk) actually understand a jot about it all. It's like telling a paraplegic to "just get up and walk".

Worse when people say "how can footballers get depressed on that wage", even though everyone knows the phrase "money can't buy you happiness".




I bet it's more common in football then we're led to believe

 

[robertgoulet]

Definitely agree with this. When I was a younger lad in my late teens, I went through some stuff with parents separating and mother having a slightly schitzo new fella (could turn on you instantly - came home from work one day and he'd burnt all my stuff). My sister was doing a psychology degree and mother was a social worker, but I was told to "grow up", "get over it" etc and got practically disowned when I had prescriptions. Not many professionals imo (never mind normal folk) actually understand a jot about it all. It's like telling a paraplegic to "just get up and walk".

Worse when people say "how can footballers get depressed on that wage", even though everyone knows the phrase "money can't buy you happiness".




I bet it's more common in football then we're led to believe

Have to imagine it’s just as common in footballers as in normal every day folk. Just bc you’re rich doesn’t mean you are happy.

 

[SpartanSpur]

Now Danny Rose has gone public on his depression, and family issues, which some of us knew. Let it be a LESSON when you are getting hints to ‘lay off’ to understand!...

Thought of this straight away when I read it. Fantastic article and brave to bring awareness to depression. Will have my full support going forward even if he leaves.

I hope he stays however, gets great support from our fans (much like Lennon) and becomes that flying LB of a couple of seasons ago.

 

[piedpiper]

I've always liked Danny Rose. He has always been outspoken and i never had an issue with the content if his interview at the time. The Timing was out, as it was days before the start of the season but looking back it all makes sense now.

Love his openness and honesty. Hope he has an excellent world cup and that he comes back to us stronger than before.

 

[Spartan Spurs]

Definitely agree with this. When I was a younger lad in my late teens, I went through some stuff with parents separating and mother having a slightly schitzo new fella (could turn on you instantly - came home from work one day and he'd burnt all my stuff). My sister was doing a psychology degree and mother was a social worker, but I was told to "grow up", "get over it" etc and got practically disowned when I had prescriptions. Not many professionals imo (never mind normal folk) actually understand a jot about it all. It's like telling a paraplegic to "just get up and walk".

Worse when people say "how can footballers get depressed on that wage", even though everyone knows the phrase "money can't buy you happiness".




I bet it's more common in football then we're led to believe

Plenty to agree with & hopefully it's all behind you @sausage

I believe one of the hardest things for ex jocks is once they leave the limelight.
If they haven't prepared for retirement, not so much financially, but in psychological terms & one aspect is the attention (or lack thereof). For most, it's a vacuous existence going from the highs of global adulation to the lows of irrelevance.
Plenty of cases of depression post career as being an "elite athlete" was their sole identity for so long.

 

[fridgemagnet]

It would be hypocritical of me to proclaim myself as one of Danny Rose's biggest fans however as a fellow sufferer of clinical depression he has my full support and I hope he gets through it to the light side.

He's very courageous to go public with it (especially knowing what an element of football supporters are like)
I hope the club are helping all they can (not just with Danny but making sure all our staff are looked after) and put a big effort to shift the public stigma of mental illness.

Hopefully things like the lodge, new stadium etc help.
I must say though we don't come out of these interviews well IMHO (Granted agenda driven editing may be playing a part)

Also FWIW if there is any racist abuse at the WC I really hope teams do walk off, flicking. the V's as they go or sit down on the pitch or something (they can go full Cantona on them and I would give them winners medals)
I really hope someone printed up a load of undershirts for the black players with James Brown "Say It Loud - I'm Black And I'm Proud" printed on them, for goal celebrations or other occasions.

 

[nailsy]

That was a really brave article, although I'm a bit confused about some of the things that he says. Let's hope that the worst of it is behind him.
Southgate comes out of that article well.

 

[popstar7]

I suffer from depression and have done all my life on and off, so I sympathise with him to that extent. Clearly his family's also had a very rough year which would only add to the stress of his injury problems. That said, I winced so many times reading that.

 

[popstar7]

His life obviously, but why on earth would you open up about something like that to a room full of hacks without even telling your parents/family first?

 

[spursfan77]

It was discussed on SC at the time of that interview in August that he might be depressed. Some posters said he didn’t sound 100% so a good spot by them. Sounds like he’s been on drugs to help so it’s obviously something the club were aware of and probably why he wasn’t hung out to dry by the manager or his team mates.

 

[Trix]

Thanks Herc. Now I understand why you couldn't tell as it really wasn't your place to on this, it had to come from Rose himself.

Still begs the question, who let him near an interview with The Sun, if it was known he was in that state of mind?

Did the club know prior to it? And why the fuck did his agents let him do it?

Depression is so bad and can last for years. I know as I've been suffering from this for over 3 years now so I hope he is in a better place and on the road to recovery. It's hard.

His agents didn't let him do it, he was told not to. I myself have posted this numerous times. All an agent can do though is advise the players. They still make their own minds up at the end of the day.

 

[am_yisrael_chai]

Brave of him to go public. Really hope he is fit again because a fit Danny Rose is the best LB in the league.

 

[Col_M]

Have to say the article I’ve read in the Guardian presents the story in a very anti Spurs way. Had I not read the details on SC beforehand I’d be further disappointed by Rose.

 

[CantSmileWithoutYou]

His agents didn't let him do it, he was told not to. I myself have posted this numerous times. All an agent can do though is advise the players. They still make their own minds up at the end of the day.

Well that then completes the story. Depression can make you do and say things you don’t always feel but may dell in that exact moment. Now I understand.

 

[spursfan77]

Have to say the article I’ve read in the Guardian presents the story in a very anti Spurs way. Had I not read the details on SC beforehand I’d be further disappointed by Rose.

The papers trying to cause trouble, well I never.

In fairness the Guardian are the only ones doing it and not publishing all the quotes. Very strange. Even the usual suspects haven’t gone down that route and instead focus on the real issue.

 

[Clark28]

really hope he stays, when at full fitness he is amazing.