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Player Watch: Davinson Sanchez

Amo

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To my mind there are generally two types of defenders :

1)Those who are composed with good decision making and technically accomplished on the ball

2)Those who may be technically limited, but are physically dominant both on the ground and in the air and can read the game.

Of course, the best defenders can do both.

Sanchez does neither.

I wonder where the form over his previous ten matches had come from, then. I could probably concede his one poor match is a more representative sample of his ability than the the ten he played prior to last night but it's still interesting how he threw a double six ten times.
 

double0

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In a 3-4-3 formation, when the defending team come under preasure the central mid's are there to clog up the middle and it's the RCB's job to help the RWB, not the midfield's job.
I strongly disagree. Its a collective responsibility when the teams under pressure.

People blaming Emerson for the two headed goals but say nothing on the lack of pressure put on the crossed ball ain't being fair.
 

gavspur

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He is the poster boy for the stereotypical ’confidence’ player, and he seems to be mentally weak. As soon as he does something good, he steps up a gear.. On the other hand, as soon as he does something wrong, he throws his arms about, does a little skip in the air, then his head is gone for the match. I actually think this is one of the poorest signings we have made scouting wise. And I believe this is the point Conte was making about our signings, not picking out singular players, but on a whole, we have made bad decisions on purchases. We need an experienced calm head at the back, Sanchez is the opposite to this.
 

CoopsieDeadpool

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One other point to make - How bad must Joe Rodon be if he can’t get into the team infront of the likes of Sanchez and Tanganga


Yeah I've fought young Joe's corner as strongly as anyone, especially as he's proven with Wales that he & Davies work well together in a back 3.

Tanganga = fair enough, as he's not more acclimatised to being in the middle, or left of a back 3.

But It's really weird how Rodon is not unable to get minutes ahead a guy who seemingly can't even stand up for 90 minutes.
 

rio bryan

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I strongly disagree. Its a collective responsibility when the teams under pressure.

People blaming Emerson for the two headed goals but say nothing on the lack of pressure put on the crossed ball ain't being fair.
Where did i blame Emerson ? i just commented on your post
Emerson needed help as he wasn't getting any from an absolutely abysmal midfield.

Sanchez had been playing really well under Conte against Southampton he had an off day but in fairness there was mitigating circumstances.
In a 3-4-3 formation, when the defending team come under preasure the central mid's are there to clog up the middle and it's the RCB's job to help the RWB, not the midfield's job.

Strange that you did not mention Sanchez failing to help Emerson or does that not come under collective responsibility ?
 

Cochise

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He'll be with us another year at least unless we can find a way to include him in a player + cash deal.
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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Why do people feel the need to go overboard?

It's like you can't handle the fact he's been one of our most improved/consistent players under Conte. And as soon as he has a bad match you can't wait to come on here and scream 'I told you so'. Weirdos.
 

SirNiNyHotspur

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I strongly disagree. Its a collective responsibility when the teams under pressure.

People blaming Emerson for the two headed goals but say nothing on the lack of pressure put on the crossed ball ain't being fair.
Totally agree, defence was constantly exposed with zero protection in front, that said the defence didn’t cover themselves in glory, extremely poor team performance and you do have to worry about the quality of our players throughout, not just one or two individuals.
 

ShelfWatcher

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Yep Sanchez was poor, but none of the back 5 played well. As a pairing Romero and Sanchez aren't a good fit, so hope Rodon plays v Wolves
 

double0

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Where did i blame Emerson ? i just commented on your post

In a 3-4-3 formation, when the defending team come under preasure the central mid's are there to clog up the middle and it's the RCB's job to help the RWB, not the midfield's job.

Strange that you did not mention Sanchez failing to help Emerson or does that not come under collective responsibility ?
Is this an investigation?

Collectively and individually our defending was poor. Lets move on
 

ikky

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Thank fuck there seems to be interest in him ( especially Spain ). Praying we get a swap deal with a better/calmer defender in the summer.
 

chrisd2k

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Why do people feel the need to go overboard?

It's like you can't handle the fact he's been one of our most improved/consistent players under Conte. And as soon as he has a bad match you can't wait to come on here and scream 'I told you so'. Weirdos.
I could argue that he's been consistently more bad than good on his, what five years here?

Also, the same argument could be made for those that wait for his good game against some garbage side and say the lads got potential. Potential lol. Its been five years, or is it six?

Dunno can't be arsed to check but he cost £42m. Christ, Ajax saw us coming
 

double0

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I could argue that he's been consistently more bad than good on his, what five years here?

Also, the same argument could be made for those that wait for his good game against some garbage side and say the lads got potential. Potential lol. Its been five years, or is it six?

Dunno can't be arsed to check but he cost £42m. Christ, Ajax saw us coming
Did Southampton play well? Sometimes you just get beaten by the better team on the day.
 

wrd

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I think what we saw was a defensive line which lacked the leader in Dier to organise.

I think Romero is obviously quality and because of his quality more often than not, he can have great games without somebody dictating to him but he didn't have his man for either of the goals, Sanchez marking the wrong man, Emerson caught by the overload. I think all our defenders had a collective responsibility there.

Of course Romero will have more slack as he has the quality he does and he's new but he's as good an example of a backline lacking in leadership. When Broja was played through and Sanchez slipped, Romero was the guy playing them on, I'm not digging him out but pointing to the idea that digging these individuals out thread to thread might be missing the problem.

I think Conte nailed the description of Sanchez the other day, he has a lot of qualities but needs consistent focus. I think yes without Dier he can be a weak link but if he has that defender organising him then as part of well balanced defence, he absolutely can be a great player.

How many times have we seen defenders look world class when they are played to their strengths only for a change to happen and they look hapless. I remember Lovren looked like he was going to be a top class defender only to be lost at sea as soon as Fonte wasn't holding his hand. I suspect the same situation in our ranks.

We can't just depend on Dier with his injury record to be the only player capable of organising the defence. We need one more.
 
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