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Player Watch: Davinson Sanchez

fecka

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I’m fairly certain we could get sanctioned by doing a deal with russian clubs as well, no?

Not to mention the ethical aspects of it too. I hope, for ours and Davs sake, that we find another club for him
 

0-Tibsy-0

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Whatever people think about his performances for us, he has been nothing but a model professional who has given his all.

He deserves better than Russia - whether that's because of the level of football, the current situation with Ukraine or the reaction to black players in the league.
 

HildoSpur

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I’m fairly certain we could get sanctioned by doing a deal with russian clubs as well, no?

Not to mention the ethical aspects of it too. I hope, for ours and Davs sake, that we find another club for him
We would not be sanctioned - currently no ruling to say that is the case, it's purely the club's decision. As I have said before, I honestly do not care where he goes as long as we get a decent price. There is a lot of high expressed emotion in here about this but it's just a business deal with another club. It's not Spartak Moscow's fault that Russia invaded Ukraine.
 

TommyGee

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Deserves better than that.

Hopefully this can just serve as a baseline for the fee we'd accept.

Sanchez for £12M is a great deal for the right club assuming he's accommodating on the wage side.
 

leray

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We would not be sanctioned - currently no ruling to say that is the case, it's purely the club's decision. As I have said before, I honestly do not care where he goes as long as we get a decent price. There is a lot of high expressed emotion in here about this but it's just a business deal with another club. It's not Spartak Moscow's fault that Russia invaded Ukraine.
Oh yes, it is their fault. Nothing in Russian society, especially in sports, is disconnected from Putin and his minions. They will certainly make it a propaganda issue and point out Western hypocrisy, especially if in 2 weeks time we're hosting a "Game for Ukraine".

If we sell to Spartak, it's sending a very bad signal, and, for me, it's one of Levy's worst decisions.
 

SuperLuka

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We would not be sanctioned - currently no ruling to say that is the case, it's purely the club's decision. As I have said before, I honestly do not care where he goes as long as we get a decent price. There is a lot of high expressed emotion in here about this but it's just a business deal with another club. It's not Spartak Moscow's fault that Russia invaded Ukraine.
They are apparently owned by Lukoil who are surely sanctioned. I'm sure the clubs lawyers have looked at it but it does not sit comfortably at all.
 

HildoSpur

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Oh yes, it is their fault. Nothing in Russian society, especially in sports, is disconnected from Putin and his minions. They will certainly make it a propaganda issue and point out Western hypocrisy, especially if in 2 weeks time we're hosting a "Game for Ukraine".

If we sell to Spartak, it's sending a very bad signal, and, for me, it's one of Levy's worst decisions.
Oh don't be ridiculous.
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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But as a nation we aren't supplying Yemen with weapons and placing sanctions on the Saudi's as far as I know.

I understand the point you are making that both regimes are awful ones that we shouldn't be dealing with, but I don't think they are quite the same.

We should be though. Ironically we’re selling the Saudis weapons. Which is all down to corruption and greed.

The real difference is that Yemen is not in Europe and their citizens are brown skinned. The atrocities being committed by Saudi against the Yemen are just as bad, if not worst than Russia to Ukraine though.

It’s the last I’ll say in it but my point still stands, if we shouldn’t be dealing with Russian clubs than we sure as hell shouldn’t be dealing with Saudi clubs, especially as the top Saudi clubs have a direct link to the regime over there now they are state owned.
 
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CookieYiddo

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Bad Optics. Plus, as much as we rag on him, he’s still got plenty of career ahead of him. He really is worth more than that. I’m not saying he’s worth loads but certainly more than 13 mil
 

StanSpur

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I dont think there would be any penalties on Spurs for doing this deal as FIFA/UEFA would already have given advice or rulings against dealing with Russian clubs if that were to be the case. I think morally there is an issue with selling there given sanctions etc which no doubt are impacted through ownership etc. For Davinson i hope he doesnt go there as, apart from the conflict, the racism in russia is appalling and nobody deserves to be put in that position, especially football players who have a limit to the control of their movements. Spurs should think of the man and maybe take a million or two less from a club in a country where the player would have greater freedom and security.
 

hughy

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Bad Optics. Plus, as much as we rag on him, he’s still got plenty of career ahead of him. He really is worth more than that. I’m not saying he’s worth loads but certainly more than 13 mil
I don't know how he can be worth any more than that. Last year of his contract, he's had 2 or 3 disappointing seasons back-to-back, and we're hardly drowning in interest for him. He's only worth what other clubs will offer, and if the highest offer is £13m then we have to take it.

I'd still rather we didn't do any business with a Russian club.
 

Majick

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If Spartak are the only club to bid for him, what are we meant to do? It seems clear that his best option is to move, and you'd imagine that his agent has been trying to find somewhere for him too, but if there's only one bid on the table...

For all the reasons mentioned, I can understand Sanchez not being keen on moving to Russia - but that's his decision to make, not the club's.
 

BENNO

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In an ideal world we wouldn't sell Davinson to Russia, and we'd play the Ukraine game then donate £10m to them as a proper payment for Solomon - and all us fans would be so glad that we'd done the morally correct things that we would completely understand it when the club announced we couldn't buy X player because we didn't have the extra funds ! We are all hypocrites to varying degrees otherwise we wouldn't stomach modern football.
 

muppetman

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We should be though. Ironically we’re selling the Saudis weapons. Which is all down to corruption and greed.

The real difference is that Yemen is not in Europe and their citizens are brown skinned. The atrocities being committed by Saudi against the Yemen are just as bad, if not worst than Russia to Ukraine though.

It’s the last I’ll say in it but my point still stands, if we shouldn’t be dealing with Russian clubs than we sure as hell shouldn’t be dealing with Saudi clubs, especially as the top Saudi clubs have a direct link to the regime over there now they are state owned.
Hypocrisy in football?? Never! :LOL:

As i say, I don't disagree with the point you are making, but regardless of Saudi, we definitely should not be selling a player to a Russian club, particularly if we are having some sort of charity match for Shaktar!
 

robotsonic

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This is one of the witheringly few times where football Twitter could actually be of some use, en masse shaming the club into not doing such a deal, but I get the impression that the Venn diagram of those playing the game of musical braincell on there, and those gagging for us to get bought out by shady petrowankers, ethics be damned...is probably a circle.

If Dav wanted to make such a move, which I can't believe in the first place, I'd rather we let him buy out his contract and then he's free to do as he pleases. But I very much hope for his own sake that such a move isn't in his thoughts.
 

Albertbarich

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We should be though. Ironically we’re selling the Saudis weapons. Which is all down to corruption and greed.

The real difference is that Yemen is not in Europe and their citizens are brown skinned. The atrocities being committed by Saudi against the Yemen are just as bad, if not worst than Russia to Ukraine though.

It’s the last I’ll say in it but my point still stands, if we shouldn’t be dealing with Russian clubs than we sure as hell shouldn’t be dealing with Saudi clubs, especially as the top Saudi clubs have a direct link to the regime over there now they are state owned.
Whole heartedly agree with this and it's why I've given up with any moral hope for not just our club but football.

The corruption/greed gravy train starts with governments and the moment ours pushed through the barcode sale was the time I realised were basically pissing into a hurricane trying to stand up to it all.

Saudis/Russia/Qatar will and can buy anything they want.
 

BorjeSpurs

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Whole heartedly agree with this and it's why I've given up with any moral hope for not just our club but football.

The corruption/greed gravy train starts with governments and the moment ours pushed through the barcode sale was the time I realised were basically pissing into a hurricane trying to stand up to it all.

Saudis/Russia/Qatar will and can buy anything they want.
Agree with the moral comparisons but Russia are not spending anywhere near what the Saudis are doing this summer or what Qatar has been doing with PSG.

Sanchez will be the 2nd most expensive signing of all time for Spartak if he chooses to go there.
 

Spunkmonkey

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Question is... should we even be dealing with them in the first place ? ... should it even be possible with the UEFA bans to Russian teams ?... I would be surprised if Sanchez wants the move.
Are banks even allowed to accept monies coming in from Russia due to various sanctions
 

Albertbarich

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Agree with the moral comparisons but Russia are not spending anywhere near what the Saudis are doing this summer or what Qatar has been doing with PSG.

Sanchez will be the 2nd most expensive signing of all time for Spartak if he chooses to go there.
I know they aren't but we saw with Abramovich that their money is just as welcome.
 

worcestersauce

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There's a UEFA ban on Russian clubs in European competition but they have not been expelled from UEFA and it is perfectly legal to deal with them. If Davinson wants to go there it's wrong to stop him however reports today saying he's unsure about the move and I certainly think it'd be a mistake for him to go there.
 
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