Player Watch - Djed Spence - Genoa

[Japhet]

Completely agree. I didnt see anything, bar that one run to suggest he has much that we need.

if anything it confirmed why he isn't ready. He didn't look to overlap once, he ignored kulu numerous times for no reason and just stood with the ball looking lost, he stood inside a few times at a stand still without any movement.

I think he did OK, especially considering he's had a measly 3 minutes on the pitch prior to this. He may not have impressed a great deal but neither have Emerson or Doherty who have had multiple chances. At least he has some pace and power, and we have at last got a bit of a look at him.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

I think he should 100% start on the weekend and should be given a real shot. But i fully expect him to be an unused sub and to go out on loan. Personally id find it baffling not giving him a proper shot before turning to the transfer market again but it is what it is. As someone else mentioned, why Sess is given so much time when imo he doesn't look particularly great at anything (yet) and Spence hasn't and wont (if he goes out on loan) is IMO poor management looking in from the outside. I can only assume that he must really really be struggling with understanding Conte's system or at least certain aspects of it and Conte thinks it will do him and us more harm then good if he plays. Id understand it if Royal was a clear more solid choice but, again as someone else pointed out, although he is stronger in defence, he is still error prone and offers next to nothing beyond the halfway line. Considering how big an issue that RWB spot has been, im really disappointed that we did't give him a proper shot because at this point we really have nothing to loose IMO.

 

[Freddie]

Completely agree. I didnt see anything, bar that one run to suggest he has much that we need.

if anything it confirmed why he isn't ready. He didn't look to overlap once, he ignored kulu numerous times for no reason and just stood with the ball looking lost, he stood inside a few times at a stand still without any movement.

I knew this would happen. He's been given about 20 minutes of game time all season and then when he gets a chance to play and doesn't miraculously slot into the side seamlessly it's because he isn't ready?? The number of times Emerson makes shit decisions (half the time) and the number of times he makes the right one but executes badly (the other half) is incredible. No one says he isn't ready. Plus given his limitations the best option Emerson can take is usually to keep possession by passing backwards. At least this guy offers other threats that defenders have to actually defend. I thought he did more good than bad. Absolutely deserves more games.

 

[southlondonyiddo]

I knew this would happen. He's been given about 20 minutes of game time all season and then when he gets a chance to play and doesn't miraculously slot into the side seamlessly it's because he isn't ready?? The number of times Emerson makes shit decisions (half the time) and the number of times he makes the right one but executes badly (the other half) is incredible. No one says he isn't ready. Plus given his limitations the best option Emerson can take is usually to keep possession by passing backwards. At least this guy offers other threats that defenders have to actually defend. I thought he did more good than bad. Absolutely deserves more games.

He’s had more than enough opportunities and game time. Clearly isn’t good enough, quick enough, strong enough, skilful enough, clever enough, skilful enough and hasn’t been Conte’d enough!

We need to get rid and bring in some journeyman boring **** asap

 

[Flobadob]

I for one would praise either of them for gliding past three players because pace and power are not either of their strong points.

Literally neither of them could make a run like that without either tripping over the ball, running straight into an opponent or leaving the ball behind them ? It’s not hard to see why people clamour for Spence when he shows a level of ability that neither of our regulars could and that ability happens to be something we are lacking on the right hand side that a lot of people believe would open up space in other areas. A bit of pace, skill and concern from our opponent at RWB would do wonders. No opponent gives a shit about what Emerson brings to the table

 

[bubble07]

I don't even think he will make the bench

 

[danielneeds]

I think he should 100% start on the weekend and should be given a real shot. But i fully expect him to be an unused sub and to go out on loan. Personally id find it baffling not giving him a proper shot before turning to the transfer market again but it is what it is. As someone else mentioned, why Sess is given so much time when imo he doesn't look particularly great at anything (yet) and Spence hasn't and wont (if he goes out on loan) is IMO poor management looking in from the outside. I can only assume that he must really really be struggling with understanding Conte's system or at least certain aspects of it and Conte thinks it will do him and us more harm then good if he plays. Id understand it if Royal was a clear more solid choice but, again as someone else pointed out, although he is stronger in defence, he is still error prone and offers next to nothing beyond the halfway line. Considering how big an issue that RWB spot has been, im really disappointed that we did't give him a proper shot because at this point we really have nothing to loose IMO.

I think in Serie A you can get away with technical players and not having much explosiveness in your side, but in the PL you just can’t. If you look at Conte at Chelsea he has Hazard, Pedro, a prime Kante, who could all use explosiveness to take players out of the game.

Conte just seems to have made us into a very old-school Serie A type side this season - don’t take risks, try to stay in shape, nick goals and close out games, although it’s all started to unravel a bit in recent weeks. We need more explosiveness in the side because at the moment we are awfully one-paced.

 

[Nick-TopSpursMan]

I think in Serie A you can get away with technical players and not having much explosiveness in your side, but in the PL you just can’t. If you look at Conte at Chelsea he has Hazard, Pedro, a prime Kante, who could all use explosiveness to take players out of the game.

Conte just seems to have made us into a very old-school Serie A type side this season - don’t take risks, try to stay in shape, nick goals and close out games, although it’s all started to unravel a bit in recent weeks. We need more explosiveness in the side because at the moment we are awfully one-paced.

Brilliant post

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

he ignored kulu numerous times for no reason

Yeah that was pissing me off because he was the one player on the pitch who could have created a chance for us to score.

Spence obviously has the raw attributes for the role but maybe his positioning and movement is not up to scratch yet.

 

[Locotoro]

Yeah that was pissing me off because he was the one player on the pitch who could have created a chance for us to score.

Spence obviously has the raw attributes for the role but maybe his positioning and movement is not up to scratch yet.

I was just urging him to pass to Deki and drive in behind the defence.

 

[BorjeSpurs]

Yeah that was pissing me off because he was the one player on the pitch who could have created a chance for us to score.

Spence obviously has the raw attributes for the role but maybe his positioning and movement is not up to scratch yet.

Improving the pace and dribbling skills of Emerson and Doherty is virtually impossible while teaching Spence where and when to release the ball is much easier.

Kulu have said that they always do extensive analysis of each game with the players so he would have already got feedback on his performance.

 

[rossdapep]

28 total minutes of football for a young player no worse than what's starting is fucking his development IMO

Just because he isn't playing doesn't mean he's not developing.

Conte and Stellini are clearly working with him and giving him guidance.

Throwing a player in just because the others arent doing excellent and he's a prospect could actually cause more problems.

He could develop bad habits that are then hard to kick out of his game, especially if the fans encourage him to do things not to the benefit of the team such as getting his head down and running down blind alleys, ignoring team mates in good positions or trying to take on players when the team is vulnerable in transition.

Plenty of young players have burst on the scene whilst still being raw but because they didnt have good coaching they developed bad habits or didnt get the naivety out of their game.

Players like Bellingham and Skipp have been trusted because they show maturity and work very well in the system.

It wasn't so long ago Warnock told him he needed to het himself sorted, which tells you, whilst talented, he's probably got a lot to learn.

 

[rossdapep]

Improving the pace and dribbling skills of Emerson and Doherty is virtually impossible while teaching Spence where and when to release the ball is much easier.

Kulu have said that they always do extensive analysis of each game with the players so he would have already got feedback on his performance.

True.

But if he's not doing those things in training he needs to 'get it' before he's rewarded with game time. Otherwise, he may not take it on board.

 

[king26]

he makes royal and doc look shit

 

[DanielJohnCosta]

Just because he isn't playing doesn't mean he's not developing.

Conte and Stellini are clearly working with him and giving him guidance.

Throwing a player in just because the others arent doing excellent and he's a prospect could actually cause more problems.

He could develop bad habits that are then hard to kick out of his game, especially if the fans encourage him to do things not to the benefit of the team such as getting his head down and running down blind alleys, ignoring team mates in good positions or trying to take on players when the team is vulnerable in transition.

Plenty of young players have burst on the scene whilst still being raw but because they didnt have good coaching they developed bad habits or didnt get the naivety out of their game.

Players like Bellingham and Skipp have been trusted because they show maturity and work very well in the system.

It wasn't so long ago Warnock told him he needed to het himself sorted, which tells you, whilst talented, he's probably got a lot to learn.

we are not talking about a 17 year old kid, he's 22 and like skip and Sessegnon they need to play in order to develop, 28 minutes is a joke, there is no way he is going to develop with that amount of game time.

You can make all the excuses you want but as we saw he isn't this 'raw' prospect, he's not less than what we have. Sess plays consistently and he has had some absolute horrid matches

 

[A Bit Much]

Just because he isn't playing doesn't mean he's not developing.

Conte and Stellini are clearly working with him and giving him guidance.

Throwing a player in just because the others arent doing excellent and he's a prospect could actually cause more problems.

He could develop bad habits that are then hard to kick out of his game, especially if the fans encourage him to do things not to the benefit of the team such as getting his head down and running down blind alleys, ignoring team mates in good positions or trying to take on players when the team is vulnerable in transition.

Plenty of young players have burst on the scene whilst still being raw but because they didnt have good coaching they developed bad habits or didnt get the naivety out of their game.

Players like Bellingham and Skipp have been trusted because they show maturity and work very well in the system.

It wasn't so long ago Warnock told him he needed to het himself sorted, which tells you, whilst talented, he's probably got a lot to learn.

This view could be correct, but it's going to get resistance because people have grown up really excited to see young talented players getting major chances to play in the first team. It was one of my favourite things about spurs, seeing talented youngsters getting genuine opportunity on the pitch, there's not much better in football (apart from winning stuff ?).

Also, it often helped improve the collective mood to see young players getting chances if the team was struggling.

 

[Nick-TopSpursMan]

Should at least get 20-30 mins from the bench today.

Hope we get to see him bring some pace, energy and 1 on 1 ability to our side. God knows we need something to give us a spark at the moment.

 

[djhotspur]

I was just urging him to pass to Deki and drive in behind the defence.

Same. But I got slated for it.

people saying oh he’s young he’s inexperienced, but the guy has played wing back for a few years and passing the ball to the forward then overlapping them is a pretty simple move that you’re meant to do.

 

[MightySpurs]

Look at what Klopp did with Robertson and TAA- young, unproven talent that was given time and belief.
I think Conte is to stubborn to do the same.
Looks like the first impression you do with Conte sticks.

 

[Locotoro]

Look at what Klopp did with Robertson and TAA- young, unproven talent that was given time and belief.
I think Conte is to stubborn to do the same.
Looks like the first impression you do with Conte sticks.

But both of those guys can cross onto a pin head. None of our young wingbacks have that ability