Player Watch Player Watch: Giovani Lo Celso

[Aphex]

I did have a feeling that source might be dodgy, as nobody else followed it up:

 

[Joshua shepherd]

Would have loved to see him play for us under a manager who tactically suited his style of football. Clearly didn’t work in Jose or Nunos systems. Wish him all the best.

To be fair to him, he's played under five different managers at spurs.

 

[JayB]

Price going down

 

[jonnyrotten]

Played well for Argentina again, surely one of the big clubs in Spain or Italy will pick him up.

Far less confident we will get rid of Tanguy.

 

[topper]

Price going down

It is a shame he appeared not to be cut out for the Premier League. Were it not for the economic fragility of many European clubs he's a £40m player when he consistently performs (as he does for Argentina). I wonder if Poch (if he's still at PSG next season) fancies a punt on him again; reckon he could do well there.

 

[Graham Minshall]

It is a shame he appeared not to be cut out for the Premier League. Were it not for the economic fragility of many European clubs he's a £40m player when he consistently performs (as he does for Argentina). I wonder if Poch (if he's still at PSG next season) fancies a punt on him again; reckon he could do well there.

Hasn’t he already played for them?

 

[ssamme]

Hasn’t he already played for them?

Yep, need to get messi to speak to mbappe about that don’t think poch has much say anymore ?

 

[Yiddo100]

What is happening

 

[curlacious]

What is happening

Paratici the platespinner

 

[Marvinspur]

Cant wait till next world cup when half the board will want him back after absolutely crushing it for Argentina. If this was a normal world cup year would have been great to wait till after the world cup to sell him. Can see him at a proper big club in a few years. Would try to get a sell on clause in any deal.

Just think a mix of the injuries and the apparent vibes/integration issues have counted against him. He was great on the original loan and there have been a few almost moments that it looked like he could turn it around. But ultimately I think his stock will deprecate if he stays at spurs and he needs to move on.

 

[DJS]

Cant wait till next world cup when half the board will want him back after absolutely crushing it for Argentina. If this was a normal world cup year would have been great to wait till after the world cup to sell him. Can see him at a proper big club in a few years. Would try to get a sell on clause in any deal.

Just think a mix of the injuries and the apparent vibes/integration issues have counted against him. He was great on the original loan and there have been a few almost moments that it looked like he could turn it around. But ultimately I think his stock will deprecate if he stays at spurs and he needs to move on.

Nah he’s been pretty much crushing it for Argentina whilst with us.

He’s just not suited for us.

 

[Marvinspur]

Me to mate.

I know he did reasonably well for a wee spell but overall he was poor.

I mean one goal in 51 league appearances for a guy with his quality was horrendous.

Not to mention the injuries.

That's a decent fee imo.

He must have hit the post a few times. Hes so good at those last minute curlers sailing wide at the last minute of an embarrassing 1-0 defeat.

 

[Marvinspur]

Nah he’s been pretty much crushing it for Argentina whilst with us.

He’s just not suited for us.

I fully agree. I just fancy Argentina to do really well at the WC. Tempted for a cheeky bet on them winning the thing. I could see his value rocket up.

 

[Now it's Spursonal]

Yeah I really fancy Argentina to win the world cup, have gone 34 games unbeaten now.

I seriously think it would be a very good idea to loan Lo Celso for 6 months and sell him post World Cup when teams are both desperate for world cup hype jobs, and also for January signings

 

[dtxspurs]

Cant wait till next world cup when half the board will want him back after absolutely crushing it for Argentina. If this was a normal world cup year would have been great to wait till after the world cup to sell him. Can see him at a proper big club in a few years. Would try to get a sell on clause in any deal.

Just think a mix of the injuries and the apparent vibes/integration issues have counted against him. He was great on the original loan and there have been a few almost moments that it looked like he could turn it around. But ultimately I think his stock will deprecate if he stays at spurs and he needs to move on.

 

[Frozen_Waffles]

GLC has missed a total of 45 games since he has arrived at spurs through injury.

Added to this he has a record of 1 goal and 3 assists in 55 games in the premier league.

Comparing to some random players...

Serge aurier - 77 games, 12 assists, 5 goals.

But he's an attacking full back I hear you say.

Ok stat of the day, Ben Davies has a better goal and assist ratio per game than GLC in the premier league.

Take the money and run. I would even argue that he has been a bigger flop than Tanguy.

This season he has been 'ok' for Villarreal. If they spend anywhere near 20m we have got incredibly lucky.

In fact apart from one season with Betis where he scored 8 goals, he has done next to nothing in his club career.

To this day I'm not really sure what type of player he is. He is not a goalscorer, he doesn't make assists and he is not a defensive player.

The argument could be made to say he is a player that sets the tempo and pass before the pass player. A Silva or Modric type player, but he has never been anywhere near those players levels.

From memory he had a few promising games under José and he is certainly decent for Argentina, but for what we spent on him it is nothing short of an absolute waste of money.

Bergwijn, lo Celso and ndombele our three biggest signings pre paratici and they all could be argued for worst signing of the century so far. All three have had injury/fitness problems, all three have failed to settle and all three will probably go this year.

There is talent in all three players but none of them have adapted to the premier league. Talk about bad scouting. What is it 100m on those three players? And if we recoup half of that we will have done well.

 

[carmeldevil]

GLC has missed a total of 45 games since he has arrived at spurs through injury.

Added to this he has a record of 1 goal and 3 assists in 55 games in the premier league.

Comparing to some random players...

Serge aurier - 77 games, 12 assists, 5 goals.

But he's an attacking full back I hear you say.

Ok stat of the day, Ben Davies has a better goal and assist ratio per game than GLC in the premier league.

Take the money and run. I would even argue that he has been a bigger flop than Tanguy.

This season he has been 'ok' for Villarreal. If they spend anywhere near 20m we have got incredibly lucky.

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In fact apart from one season with Betis where he scored 8 goals, he has done next to nothing in his club career.

To this day I'm not really sure what type of player he is. He is not a goalscorer, he doesn't make assists and he is not a defensive player.

The argument could be made to say he is a player that sets the tempo and pass before the pass player. A Silva or Modric type player, but he has never been anywhere near those players levels.

From memory he had a few promising games under José and he is certainly decent for Argentina, but for what we spent on him it is nothing short of an absolute waste of money.

Bergwijn, lo Celso and ndombele our three biggest signings pre paratici and they all could be argued for worst signing of the century so far. All three have had injury/fitness problems, all three have failed to settle and all three will probably go this year.

There is talent in all three players but none of them have adapted to the premier league. Talk about bad scouting. What is it 100m on those three players? And if we recoup half of that we will have done well.

Pls remove this until he's sold. Thanks

 

[barry]

I would even argue that he has been a bigger flop than Tanguy.

 

[Woodyy]

I was ready to die on the hill saying that Lo Celso and Ndombele would come good but I gave up shortly before they were loaned out.

It's crazy how badly we spend money, how many of our top 10 signings by fee paid have even worked out?

#	player	Age	Nat.	Season	Left	Fee
1	Tanguy Ndombélé Central Midfield	22		19/20	Olympique Lyon Ligue 1	£54.00m
2	Davinson Sánchez Centre-Back	21		17/18	Ajax Eredivisie	£37.80m
3	Moussa Sissoko Central Midfield	27		16/17	Newcastle Championship	£31.50m
4	Giovani Lo Celso Central Midfield	24		20/21	Real Betis LaLiga	£28.80m
5	Steven Bergwijn Left Winger	22		19/20	PSV Eindhoven Eredivisie	£27.00m
6	Roberto Soldado Centre-Forward	28		13/14	Valencia LaLiga	£27.00m
7	Sergio Reguilón Left-Back	23		20/21	Real Madrid LaLiga	£27.00m
8	Erik Lamela Right Winger	21		13/14	AS Roma Serie A	£27.00m
9	Heung-min Son Left Winger	23		15/16	Bay. Leverkusen Bundesliga	£27.00m
10	Lucas Moura Right Winger	25		17/18	Paris SG Ligue 1	£25.56m

 

[Woodyy]

I would say 1 has been completely worth it (Son), Moura has arguably lived up to his price as well as he's definitely a capable squad player and those goals against Ajax were worth it alone.