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Player Watch: Hugo Lloris

TheAmerican

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I'd cash in on him now while his value is still high. Keepers selling for 70mil now, we'd be mad to refuse 50 mil+. Time for fresh blood but Poch won't agree.
I doubt we get anywhere near that figure. We'd be lucky to get 30m plus I think. Just sell him and go after Sergio Rico or Alban Lafont.
 

TheAmerican

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Some hilarious comments in here. Hugo has always had that kind of mistake in him, this isn’t anything new. Shit happens. He’s still a bloody good keeper, and I’d rather have him in goal than Vorm or Gazza. He’s the best keeper we will be able to afford by far. Look how much too keepers go for these days.

Have we all forgotten the three points he got us on Sunday?
But the point is there are keepers who could have put a similar performance in Sunday without making the mistakes Hugo makes. He keeps costing us points in big games.
 

Luka Van der Bale

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Lloris is better than both. Far better.

Jesus christ this thread is a fucking joke. Smfh.
Yes he is. But over the next 2-3 seasons, we'll likely need to look to replace Hugo. At his age we're going to get very little money for him, and it's going to be incredibly expensive to get in a suitable replacement judging by recent transfer trends. It's certainly a slight concern - replacing him will have to come out of our own pocket.
 

spursfan77

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Who wouldn’t put money on him throwing one in again against Man City on Monday?

It’s the kind of game where he usually does.
 

spursfan77

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Yes he is. But over the next 2-3 seasons, we'll likely need to look to replace Hugo. At his age we're going to get very little money for him, and it's going to be incredibly expensive to get in a suitable replacement judging by recent transfer trends. It's certainly a slight concern - replacing him will have to come out of our own pocket.

There’s zero chance we will pay the money required to replace him to the same or better standard. Absolutely zero. It’s a big problem.
 

Japhet

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That's just not true. I believe he had one of the highest errors leading to goals in the PL last season, along with Cech, who's been put out to pasture now. This is a massive test for Poch. The goalkeeper is such a crucial part of a team - you can see the difference it's made to Liverpool this season. Either he's got to find a way to restore Lloris' confidence and security, or he's got to make a hard decision for the future.


The errors are starting to mount up now, but it's not just that. He continues to play out from the back when so many teams have now identified it as an area where we can be caught out. It seems that every game we have a situation where we get hemmed in around our own penalty area, and usually there is absolutely no need for it. Maybe the CMs aren't finding spaces where they can receive the ball, but whatever it is, it's playing with fire.
 

Navin R Johnson

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The errors are starting to mount up now, but it's not just that. He continues to play out from the back when so many teams have now identified it as an area where we can be caught out. It seems that every game we have a situation where we get hemmed in around our own penalty area, and usually there is absolutely no need for it. Maybe the CMs aren't finding spaces where they can receive the ball, but whatever it is, it's playing with fire.
This winds me up, my son and I argue over it constantly, my son claims it's team orders, I take the opposite view, you don't do something bloody stupid just because your gaffer told you to. If Poch moved him on for not follwing team orders it's not like he'd have to sign on is it?
 

JCRD

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Lets disregard for a moment whether he should hve come out or not last night, I think he HAD to come out but can see why those who say he shouldnt have say that

I think the defensive back line now has been hampered from the full backs and as a result has brought about uncertainty, lets not forget Toby made a mistake yesterday and defensively we have made far more errors.

I think he is being told to come out a bit more because of the lack of pace in our full backs, Trippier is as slow as I am, Hugo's mistake against Barca was, in my view, because he either has no faith that Trippier was going to get the ball OR he is being told to take the risk because Trippier is slow and need to close that space down. Hugo is basically playing like a defender - simple.
 

ajspurs

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This winds me up, my son and I argue over it constantly, my son claims it's team orders, I take the opposite view, you don't do something bloody stupid just because your gaffer told you to. If Poch moved him on for not follwing team orders it's not like he'd have to sign on is it?

This is one thing that I really do think is instructional. Obviously he has to identify himself when there really isn't a pass on and it's wiser to go long, but to me there's also an obvious encouragement to find a near man whenever he can. He does this almost game after game, and there's no way he would do this so often without being instructed to, or Poch would surely be going mad.

I can't say I remember him often putting his defenders in the shit for France, not that I looked out for it mind.
 

sparx100

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The best keeper we have had in my lifetime and as if we could find an a replacement at a reasonable price.

Captain, won us the game at the weekend. Has mistakes in him but the way we set up means his decision making has to be spot on every time which is just unrealistic.

There are other positions which need investment as a priority such as central midfield, left back and striker.
 

ralvy

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But the point is there are keepers who could have put a similar performance in Sunday without making the mistakes Hugo makes. He keeps costing us points in big games.

No he isn't, stop spreading lies.

Why aren't you saying that Eriksen costed us the points yesterday (he was the one who lose the ball at the midfield, which caused Hugo to come out from his area), or that Toby and Sanchez costed us points (we were comfortabily dominating the game until these two teamed up to give away PSV their first goal), or that Kane, Lamela, Lucas and Son costed us the game with all the chances they wasted?

It's really so fucking stupid how some of you want to blame yesterday's result entirely on a man who wasn't even on the pitch when PSV got their equalizer, but I guess that's the nature of scapegoating.
 
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Dazzazzad

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I think he is being told to come out a bit more because of the lack of pace in our full backs, Trippier is as slow as I am, Hugo's mistake against Barca was, in my view, because he either has no faith that Trippier was going to get the ball OR he is being told to take the risk because Trippier is slow and need to close that space down. Hugo is basically playing like a defender - simple.

I think there was one replay from behind the goal that made it all make sense. It looked like Tripps was going to get his head to it and head it back in Lloris' direction so he comes pacing out to claim, but it just goes over Tripps' head at which point Lloris carries on instead of retreating.

So I actually think the fault on that occasion was due to him thinking Trippier would get his head to the ball.

At least that's how I remember it. Could be completely wrong.
 

TheAmerican

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No he isn't, stop spreading lies.

Why aren't you saying that Eriksen costed us the points yesterday (he was the one who lose the ball at the midfield, which caused Hugo to come out from his area), or that Toby and Sanchez costed us points (we were comfortabily dominating the game until these two teamed up to give away PSV their first goal), or that Kane, Lamela, Lucas and Son costed us the game with all the chances they wasted?

It's really so fucking stupid how some of you want to blame yesterday's result entirely on a man who wasn't even on the pitch when PSV got their equalizer, but I guess that's the nature of scapegoating.
You are clearly fucking biased to protect him no matter what. He made a dumb challenge when it wasn't necessary and brought us down to 10 men. Against Barcelona he made a mistake that had us chasing the game since. Two seasons ago he made a mistake that cost us 2 points against City. In the past three seasons in the premier league, he has made the most mistakes that have led to goals of any keeper.


Why aren't you saying that Eriksen costed us the points yesterday (he was the one who lose the ball at the midfield, which caused Hugo to come out from his area), or that Toby and Sanchez costed us points (we were comfortabily dominating the game until these two teamed up to give away PSV their first goal), or that Kane, Lamela, Lucas and Son costed us the game with all the chances they wasted?

Because Hugo made the match changing mistake that brought us down to 10 men, it changed the dynamic of the game. Goal keepers are a position of high pressure. If he gets the glory for making phenomenal saves, then he deserves the criticism when he makes horrible mistakes.
 

truebluespur

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So fickle... We should sell Alderweireld as well then. His mistake is arguably worse. At least Lloris was proactive, whereas Toby lackadaisical.

On a lighter note, look how Google describes this word haha
Screenshot_2018-10-26 lackadaisical - Google Search.png
 
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JCRD

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Mirror saying we are after Burnley’s Nick Pope as a replacement for Lloris.

It doesn't say that pope will replace Hugo but that we will freshen up the gk group which is understandable. He will cost a fair whack though.
 

AnotherSpursFan

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Lloris, Verts,Kane and prior to his injury Toby are world class.
The rest of the regulars bar Lamela, Son and Moura are all fucking back passers.

These backpaasers are the problems. Go after them, but you cant because your stats naively tells you they have 95% passing accuracy. These are the players that are hiding each and every game. Even Laudrup doesnt have 95% passing accuracy.
 

fortworthspur

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This winds me up, my son and I argue over it constantly, my son claims it's team orders, I take the opposite view, you don't do something bloody stupid just because your gaffer told you to. If Poch moved him on for not follwing team orders it's not like he'd have to sign on is it?


Im almost 100% certain he does it because Poch tells him to, stupid or not. And yeah, you do what your manager tells you to.
 

ralvy

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You are clearly fucking biased to protect him no matter what. He made a dumb challenge when it wasn't necessary and brought us down to 10 men. Against Barcelona he made a mistake that had us chasing the game since. Two seasons ago he made a mistake that cost us 2 points against City. In the past three seasons in the premier league, he has made the most mistakes that have led to goals of any keeper.


Why aren't you saying that Eriksen costed us the points yesterday (he was the one who lose the ball at the midfield, which caused Hugo to come out from his area), or that Toby and Sanchez costed us points (we were comfortabily dominating the game until these two teamed up to give away PSV their first goal), or that Kane, Lamela, Lucas and Son costed us the game with all the chances they wasted?

Because Hugo made the match changing mistake that brought us down to 10 men, it changed the dynamic of the game. Goal keepers are a position of high pressure. If he gets the glory for making phenomenal saves, then he deserves the criticism when he makes horrible mistakes.

Funny how you say I'm the one who's being biased when you guys are the ones who seem to be following this form of mob mentality, wanting to jump all over Lloris for every decision/excecusion he makes that is questionable or less than perfect.

The only way Hugo's mistake changed the game (if it was a mistake at all) was in preventing PSV to get an equalizer at that moment. It's not the fault of Lloris that the rest of the team couldn't maintain the lead after he was off, the dynamics of the game didn't change that much after he was sent off as PSV were already pushing for an equalizer before that incident. And how come you're only blaiming Lloris for us being reduced to 10 men and not Eriksen for giving the ball away at such a dangerous position?
 
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