Player Watch: Hugo Lloris

[Deleted member 27995]

Everyone is entitled to an opinion and people can criticize etc etc but in my life time Hugo is the best I've seen for us 'between the sticks' and I'm glad he is club captain too.

GK's like outfield players make mistakes, like a lot of things in life I don't understand this incessant need to find blame, though, by all means make a point but once it's been made, move on.

 

[dondo]

Link?

It was around 20 posts ago in this thread

 

[Klinsmannesque]

Stupid argument really every player,manager will make mistakes.
Lloris has been poor for a while now, if our results drop and we end up mid table next season Pochettino job will probably be under threat too.
Tottenham are bigger than any player if any players are no longer performing to the required standard for a prolonged period of time their place should be under threat surely??

Not stupid at all, the only thing stupid would be your opinion he's been poor for a while now - which you're entitled to - but I would strongly disagree with.

He's had a small handful of errors, but that's about it. Hardly fair for a sweeping statement such as he's been poor for a while. And as I say, we know how good he can be. Would you rather look at alternative options which are always a gamble, or stick by the man who we know is a top quality goalkeeper, has been a leader for the last few years and been an integral cog to the turnaround of the club.

 

[tiger666]

It was around 20 posts ago in this thread

I see a link saying 5 mistakes, not 12.

 

[dondo]

I see a link saying 5 mistakes, not 12.

That is mistakes leading to goals (Lloris is joint 2nd worst with 5)
The posters stat was mistakes leading to shots (including goals) which is 12

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

That is mistakes leading to goals (Lloris is joint 2nd worst with 5)
The posters stat was mistakes leading to shots (including goals) which is 12

Someone posts opinion and its now a "stat" being taken as gospel.

I have a headache now

 

[dondo]

Someone posts opinion and its now a "stat" being taken as gospel.

I have a headache now

It’s from Opta stats

 

[jurgen]

Stupid argument really every player,manager will make mistakes.
Lloris has been poor for a while now, if our results drop and we end up mid table next season Pochettino job will probably be under threat too.
Tottenham are bigger than any player if any players are no longer performing to the required standard for a prolonged period of time their place should be under threat surely??

So now a hypothetical Lloris is causing us to finish mid table next season? What about the rest of the players, or his he just throwing 2 goals a game into his net to lose us the 29 points we are currently above 10th? Or the 24 we are above 8th..

I'd imagine hypothetical Lloris would have been dropped by that point.

 

[dondo]

So now a hypothetical Lloris is causing us to finish mid table next season? What about the rest of the players, or his he just throwing 2 goals a game into his net to lose us the 29 points we are currently above 10th? Or the 24 we are above 8th..

I'd imagine hypothetical Lloris would have been dropped by that point.

That’s not what I said go back and read the conversation properly ?

 

[diamond lights]

Really think Hugo could be lifting the World Cup this summer. Would love that.

 

[Grey Fox]

People are asking about possible replacement for Hugo and forget we have Gaza waiting in the wings, who is highly thought of in the club. My prediction is Vorm will be released in the summer and if Hugo's form dips any further we could well see Gaza competing for number one by season end.
Hugo's shot stopping is brilliant but his distribution is poor and has been for a couple of seasons, some people on here wear rose tinted glasses and while a player wears the shirt he deserves our support, bit as we have seen competitions are won by fine margins and to win something we need to limit individual mistakes as much as possible.

 

[danielneeds]

People are asking about possible replacement for Hugo and forget we have Gaza waiting in the wings, who is highly thought of in the club. My prediction is Vorm will be released in the summer and if Hugo's form dips any further we could well see Gaza competing for number one by season end.
Hugo's shot stopping is brilliant but his distribution is poor and has been for a couple of seasons, some people on here wear rose tinted glasses and while a player wears the shirt he deserves our support, bit as we have seen competitions are won by fine margins and to win something we need to limit individual mistakes as much as possible.

Oh, jeez, his distribution is not poor, he's clearly told to play high risk passes, rather than kicking it long. So if one of our defenders has the opposition close to them, he's obviously instructed to give it to them, and trust they have the ability to play out. And apart from when we've played the one or two best pressing teams in Europe, we do it beautifully.

The loss of form has been more to do with defensive decision making, coming out for things, his narrowing of angles, etc. His passing is pretty much the same as it's always been.

 

[Hengy1]

People are asking about possible replacement for Hugo and forget we have Gaza waiting in the wings, who is highly thought of in the club. My prediction is Vorm will be released in the summer and if Hugo's form dips any further we could well see Gaza competing for number one by season end.
Hugo's shot stopping is brilliant but his distribution is poor and has been for a couple of seasons, some people on here wear rose tinted glasses and while a player wears the shirt he deserves our support, bit as we have seen competitions are won by fine margins and to win something we need to limit individual mistakes as much as possible.

No disrespect but if Gazzanga is going for top spot then we are in trouble. He’s a poor gk and someone that should never be higher than 3rd choice

 

[diamond lights]

No disrespect but if Gazzanga is going for top spot then we are in trouble. He’s a poor gk and someone that should never be higher than 3rd choice

I'm not so sure about this.

He's reasonably young for a gk and apart from a dodgy spell at Southampton we really have very little to go on.

He had one great game for us and if the coaching staff that see him every day rate him then who knows. GK is a strange position and they can develop or fall away at different stages. Look at the careers Hart and Paul Robinson were having and then suddenly they're not what they were. The same can happen in reverse if all the attributes come together at the right time.

David Seamen was 25 before he got called up for England, Zoff 26 before he played for Italy. Schmeichel only turned professional at 24 and signed for Utd 4 years later. I'm not saying Gazza is in this class but just making the point that goalkeepers often develop later than outfield players.

 

[Kiedis]

Dunno about Gazzanigas great game. He had some good saves, but clocked a Palace player in the head after about a minute when trying to punch a cross which should have been a penalty, and was nailed to the line Friedel style when Zaha rounded him and missed an open goal.

Two pretty big mistakes. Maybe a bit down to rust, but I'd say his game was only good, or maybe even just decent in the context of him being a 3rd choice keeper being thrown into it somewhat.

 

[RicOfPeace]

Yeah except every time we seem to play Manchester City he seems to gift them goals (too many to count) Kieran Gibbs at the scum, Sanchez when we should have beat the scum slips through his butter fingers, Alonso at the near post first home game of the season heck actually how many times has he been beaten at his near post? Morata, Stoke etc etc I could go on but hey apparently Lloris is untouchable even though in reality he has made more errors per season than a so called Clown called Gomes but hey whatever suits your agenda.

looks like he didn't turn up against Manchester City... Again

 

[murichej]

Fact is that if Lloris does not improve, he should no longer be no.1. Vorm and Gazza are no worse than what Lloris is showing over the latest period.

For FA cup I would actually put Vorm in the goal and would feel comfortable about it.

If Poch doesn't have balls to drop Lloris, we have a problem.

 

[dj2gee]

Which goal was his fault? A goal keeper is only as good as the defence in front of him. The first was difficult to save a 1 on 1. The second was not a penalty. The third, the ball came through quite a few bodies and he clearly sees it late. He gets down quickly and makes the save but as he saw it late, I don’t think it is fair to him to say that he didn’t parry wider.

 

[dricha1]

On current form Lloris is not better than Karius

 

[murichej]

But sorry man.. top keeper should occasionally save crucial 1v1, which he doesnt for a long time. True it was not penalty but was still a mistake. Btw that was not his only mistake when going off the line today. Remember last game and one before as well.

Tottenham Hotspur need a top keeper, whatever his name is... Not someone who we need to discuss/criticise/defend after every game. This clearly is a sign that something is not good.

What was his last really good game, can you recall? You might need to scroll down the matchday rating threads to find some..