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Player Watch: Hugo Lloris

Thenewcat

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Thoughts from your view on Forster being on the Freidel end of the scale? Not necessarily staying on his line but he just looks so stiff going for dives on the stretch/low im not convinced hes a massive upgrade on lloris except for as you say in your example the more glaring clangers are less frequent.

By far the best backup i feel like we've had for a good while though for sure.
Yeah I agree the thing that has stopped Forster being an elite keeper is he isn’t an elite shot stopper. He’s solid, dependable and a very good no 2 for me. At his peak Lloris made very few errors and he’s one of the best shot stoppers I’ve ever seen. Even this year his agility is superb and he makes great saves, but the error count has just got too high
 

fishhhandaricecake

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Said as much probably in this thread a few months back, but 10 years just knowing the no1 spot is solid should not be sniffed at (and i'm of the opinion that his drop off hasnt been as bad as many make out, albeit in the minority flying that flag) , but just did quick google to recall the timeline of starting keepers since 2000:

'00 - '02 Sullivan
'02-'04 Keller
'04-'08 Robinson
'08-'11 Gomes
'12 Friedel
'13 onwards Hugo

5 average/below par keepers in 12 years. If this is his last year as our starter i'm praying we get another as good as hugo.....should be easy enough right....
Robinson was decent for a while until he started letting in so many goals from 30+ yards.

Gomes was a liability but he almost single handedly got us CL under Redknapp in our final run-in of games when he was unstoppable.

Friedel was solid even at his age.

Sullivan and Keller were very average indeed, relegation level goalies, nice blokes but not up to it.

Hugo has been immense for the most part and we thank him for his service.

However I will be glad that he won't be our captain anymore as he is the opposite of inspirational and having a gk as a captain is never really a good idea.
 

spursfan77

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His poor kicking caused us so many problems over the last 12 months. Just giving the ball away or kicking it long to players like Son who he thought was going to win headers or hold it up.

 

C1w8

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Robinson was decent for a while until he started letting in so many goals from 30+ yards.

Gomes was a liability but he almost single handedly got us CL under Redknapp in our final run-in of games when he was unstoppable.

Friedel was solid even at his age.

Sullivan and Keller were very average indeed, relegation level goalies, nice blokes but not up to it.

Hugo has been immense for the most part and we thank him for his service.

However I will be glad that he won't be our captain anymore as he is the opposite of inspirational and having a gk as a captain is never really a good idea.
Not crapping on these keepers by any means, but you just knew given age/performance of these keepers bar maybe first 12months of Robinson (until those long shots became lethal), there was going to be another keeper change soon enough, no idea who was coming in next, so being able to rely on hugo for 10 years has been appreciated certainly by me anyway.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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His poor kicking caused us so many problems over the last 12 months. Just giving the ball away or kicking it long to players like Son who he thought was going to win headers or hold it up.


That is actually super interesting thanks for the share mate.

Big Fraser so much more assured.
 

spursfan77

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That is actually super interesting thanks for the share mate.

Big Fraser so much more assured.

It just shows how we can be so much better with a better keeper behind that defence. Whilst we have still conceded a lot of goals, I no longer feel like we are just handing the ball back to the opposition every time the keeper has it.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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It just shows how we can be so much better with a better keeper behind that defence. Whilst we have still conceded a lot of goals, I no longer feel like we are just handing the ball back to the opposition every time the keeper has it.
Hugo was a amazing for us for many years but the last few years his shot stopping has dropped off and so when you add his mistakes with his feet to the general energy of uncertainty that he brings its no surprise that we look more solid when big Fraser is in the sticks.

This is why for example Schmeichel was so good because he was such a big calming presence behind the back 4, its also why I really don't rate Pickford because his energy is so so frantic and that will rub off on the defence in front of him.
 

McFlash

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Said as much probably in this thread a few months back, but 10 years just knowing the no1 spot is solid should not be sniffed at (and i'm of the opinion that his drop off hasnt been as bad as many make out, albeit in the minority flying that flag) , but just did quick google to recall the timeline of starting keepers since 2000:

'00 - '02 Sullivan
'02-'04 Keller
'04-'08 Robinson
'08-'11 Gomes
'12 Friedel
'13 onwards Hugo

5 average/below par keepers in 12 years. If this is his last year as our starter i'm praying we get another as good as hugo.....should be easy enough right....
I personally don't think any of those were below average or average, pretty solid keepers for me.
They all had their faults, as do most keepers but we're decent most of the time.
 

spursfan77

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Hugo was a amazing for us for many years but the last few years his shot stopping has dropped off and so when you add his mistakes with his feet to the general energy of uncertainty that he brings its no surprise that we look more solid when big Fraser is in the sticks.

This is why for example Schmeichel was so good because he was such a big calming presence behind the back 4, its also why I really don't rate Pickford because his energy is so so frantic and that will rub off on the defence in front of him.

Yeah Pickford would be a disaster behind our defence.
 

kr1978

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Robinson was decent for a while until he started letting in so many goals from 30+ yards.

Gomes was a liability but he almost single handedly got us CL under Redknapp in our final run-in of games when he was unstoppable.

Friedel was solid even at his age.

Sullivan and Keller were very average indeed, relegation level goalies, nice blokes but not up to it.

Hugo has been immense for the most part and we thank him for his service.

However I will be glad that he won't be our captain anymore as he is the opposite of inspirational and having a gk as a captain is never really a good idea.
Robinson was great but was never the same after the bobbled back pass from Neville, genuinely think that one moment ruined him
 

HildoSpur

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Hugo has been a fantastic servant to the club and captain. His time is over now but he will be remembered fondly.
 

sidford

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£300k a week Saudi deal but want's to chat to levy and also wait to see who spurs appoint as manager. Would be a great move for both sides if he went there. Respect him too much to see him on our bench and be hard to see him starting for us next season because let's face it he's not good enough anymore and don't want him to tarnish his reputation with us.
 

felmani26

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Hugo was a amazing for us for many years but the last few years his shot stopping has dropped off and so when you add his mistakes with his feet to the general energy of uncertainty that he brings its no surprise that we look more solid when big Fraser is in the sticks.

This is why for example Schmeichel was so good because he was such a big calming presence behind the back 4, its also why I really don't rate Pickford because his energy is so so frantic and that will rub off on the defence in front of him.
I get where you're coming from but in no uncertain terms was Schmeichel a 'big calming presence' - was constantly berating defenders and was a larger than life, throwback goalie who'd put his body on the line.

I think Pickford is underrated here personally and has the personality to make the step up for a team with aspirations of silverware - much like with Ramsdale.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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I get where you're coming from but in no uncertain terms was Schmeichel a 'big calming presence' - was constantly berating defenders and was a larger than life, throwback goalie who'd put his body on the line.

I think Pickford is underrated here personally and has the personality to make the step up for a team with aspirations of silverware - much like with Ramsdale.
Calming in the sense of the goalie gives the back 4 confidence but yea fair points
 

Thenewcat

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Hugo was a amazing for us for many years but the last few years his shot stopping has dropped off and so when you add his mistakes with his feet to the general energy of uncertainty that he brings its no surprise that we look more solid when big Fraser is in the sticks.

This is why for example Schmeichel was so good because he was such a big calming presence behind the back 4, its also why I really don't rate Pickford because his energy is so so frantic and that will rub off on the defence in front of him.
I don’t think his shot stopping has dropped off much at all - he still regularly makes brilliant saves. It’s the error count that is the problem
 
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