Player Watch Player Watch: James Maddison

[JamieSpursCommunityUser]

Is ‘The Wolf’ seen as reliable?

Not sure but he got a terrible yelp review from a Ms Riding Hood.

 

[TheWook]

Not sure but he got a terrible yelp review from a Ms Riding Hood.

What very big eyes he has though

 

[Finchyid]

Is ‘The Wolf’ seen as reliable?

I always thought he was if you needed brains and shit cleaned from a car

 

[Tezza1978]

Is ‘The Wolf’ seen as reliable?

 

[fecka]

No chance

I'm all for a spending cap, I just don't believe that enough clubs would agree on a cap that can hypothetically change from season to season outside of their control.
Think it makes more sense to link it to each club's individual turnover or an upper limit that doesn't change every season.

 

[rawhide]

I'm all for a spending cap, I just don't believe that enough clubs would agree on a cap that can hypothetically change from season to season outside of their control.
Think it makes more sense to link it to each club's individual turnover or an upper limit that doesn't change every season.

I think the issue is that a cap would arguably make the top Premier League clubs less competitive against European clubs in the transfer market.

We’ve seen it in Rugby, with a much smaller talent pool, where English, Welsh and Scottish stars have signed for French teams for the bigger payday. It’s probably worth noting that we’ve also seen 3 Premiership clubs go under in very recent months, including one that had qualified for European competition, meaning it hasn’t worked anyway.

 

[olliec]

I get why we lose players to pool, utd, City and Chelsea, but not Newcastle and Villa. One good season for these clubs and they think they are above us. I can’t get my head around why we aren’t in for Maddison as he’s someone we clearly need. Newcastle can’t even offer wages like we can because of FFP. If he goes to Newcastle I’ll be so disappointed.

 

[Tucker]

I get why we lose players to pool, utd, City and Chelsea, but not Newcastle and Villa. One good season for these clubs and they think they are above us. I can’t get my head around why we aren’t in for Maddison as he’s someone we clearly need. Newcastle can’t even offer wages like we can because of FFP. If he goes to Newcastle I’ll be so disappointed.

Who’s saying we aren’t in for him?

 

[Albertbarich]

I get why we lose players to pool, utd, City and Chelsea, but not Newcastle and Villa. One good season for these clubs and they think they are above us. I can’t get my head around why we aren’t in for Maddison as he’s someone we clearly need. Newcastle can’t even offer wages like we can because of FFP. If he goes to Newcastle I’ll be so disappointed.

Thing is now with the stadium in place we shouldn't be losing players and we should be competing for the best ones.

Were not though and have no intention of doing so.

I don't know what Maddisons wage demands are but you're right in that if any of the clubs you mentioned come in for him we won't get anywhere near what they will pay and after all the pain for this stadium it's not right.

 

[olliec]

Who’s saying we aren’t in for him?

Maybe we are but all the news outlets seems to think he’s going to Newcastle. Haven’t heard anything about us close to completing a deal. Seems like only a matter of time until he’s holding a Newcastle shirt up. On top of that all the Newcastle fans on social media going on about how they are a bigger and better club than us after one good season they have. It’s just frustrating and I really wish we would sign him to make a statement!

I remember going to Newcastle once. The place is full of bars that sells gravy vodka and spectacular water shows like this one below. I’ve seen bigger water streams from taking a piss. Is this really the lifestyle and culture world class players want to live in?

I think every player should watch this video below before deciding to join Newcastle.

 

[Buster18]

John Cross on TalkSport saying that Newcastle struggling to get this done as they won't meet his salary. He's claiming we're prepared to pay him more believe it or not.

 

[superted4]

From what I gather with Newcastle is whilst there was leg room with FFP due to Ashley been a tight arse, they've spent around £300m (18 months/3 transfer windows) since the saudi's have come in but there income is very low and the champions league money wont be added to it until next year, so they've got to be very clever this year and I doubt any players they would be willing to sell would be in a great amount of money or reduce the wage bill that much. So Maddison they'll have a set budget because otherwise they wont be able to strengthen elsewhere

 

[dagraham]

John Cross on TalkSport saying that Newcastle struggling to get this done as they won't meet his salary. He's claiming we're prepared to pay him more believe it or not.

Well if that is genuinely the case and he’s happy to come to us, then I hope we don’t mess around with the fee and press home any advantage we may have over Newcastle.

 

[jpascavitz]

John Cross on TalkSport saying that Newcastle struggling to get this done as they won't meet his salary. He's claiming we're prepared to pay him more believe it or not.

Doesn't surprise me actually, I think it's been said on here and by others that our wage structure is higher than Newcastles, so fingers crossed!

 

[rossdapep]

Another aspect to consider when people say Newcastle will be above a lot us teams soon is that when City rose their only real competitors in this respect where United and Chelsea.

Arsenal were being very tight with spending due to the stadium. and last players to city like Adebayor and Nasri.

Liverpool were far behind and werent able to compete financially.

Tottenham were miles behind financially and werent even spending more than 15m on a single transfer.

Today..
-The PL TV rights have meant more clubs can spend.
- Our revenue means our salary budget has increased significantly.
- Arsenal and Liverpool spend significantly more and have a big name.
- FFP prevents clubs from just going around hoovering up all the best players.
- The PL is far more competitive. A wobble doesnt mean scraping CL anymore. A wobble means finishing 7th or 8th.

All of these factors should be considered.

This isnt a case of a club being able to do as they please, sign competitors players and blow them out of the water.

Even City have baulked at fees (Alexis Sanchez) and just let rivals take the player.

Its why any player should be thinking twice about going to Newcastle just yet if they want titles.

If they are sold a 5 year project then maybe but players are still going to choose bigger clubs

 

[Snarfalicious]

If we can swing deals for Raya and Maddison early, that’d be enormous for our squad. We are absolutely going to have glaring issues going into the season, but those two alone (and we will sign a CB, I’m sure) are incredibly important and fill major needs and the HG component is just the cherry on top for me. Just got to hope we can make it happen.

 

[cabinfever]

Not sure but he got a terrible yelp review from a Ms Riding Hood.

Those three little pigs weren’t too happy about a couple of houses he blew down either.

poor reputation imo!!!

 

[septicsac]

Always been a bit worried about Maddisons injury record and his possible dislike for us, albeit same being historical, but his stats for goals and assists are outstanding and landing him makes way too much sense, hope we get this done.

 

[mr ashley]

That's only part of the problem.
The other part is fans who think these signings are beneath us and we should be signing bigger names, only to say two years later we should have signed them two years ago before they were too expensive.
Fans don't want project players, they want shiny new toys (not all fans BTW)

Sorry I hadn’t seen your reply.
Don’t agree with this. POV btw
I think the entire fan base has been brought up on young (often HG) talent being given time to grow.
and with three cups and rotation post -CL there have adequate minutes for integration. Sadly managers have turned down this recently (JM/AC) but the fans clearly don’t feel this way.

Spence is a great example.

Now I do appreciate that the actual player has often decided that they would develop better at clubs like palace because it was easier to become a starter

But I really don’t think fans are dismissing young signings with high potential (and even if they did- who in the club listens to them?)

 

[kd2000]

Sorry I hadn’t seen your reply.
Don’t agree with this. POV btw
I think the entire fan base has been brought up on young (often HG) talent being given time to grow.
and with three cups and rotation post -CL there have adequate minutes for integration. Sadly managers have turned down this recently (JM/AC) but the fans clearly don’t feel this way.

Spence is a great example.

Now I do appreciate that the actual player has often decided that they would develop better at clubs like palace because it was easier to become a starter

But I really don’t think fans are dismissing young signings with high potential (and even if they did- who in the club listens to them?)

Not sure I agree.
Given that there are finite funds, and if the choice came down to Madison or Scott.
Most would choose Madison because he is a bigger name (shiny new toy).
Scott may well have the higher ceiling and in a year or two there are many fans who will say we should have signed him when we had the chance. This is merely an example, but how many fans would truly choose Scott over Madison at this point?
I don't think many truly want the project player. There may be some among the fan base who have a certain affinity for seeing youngsters come good, not sure that is the 'fifa generation' though.