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Griff001

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Has a signing ever seemed more of a perfect fit for us than Maddison? He's fitted in seamlessly, his playing style just oozes Spurs and he feels like he's been here for years.

Signing of the season without a doubt, don't even need the rest of the season to conclude to know this.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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Has a signing ever seemed more of a perfect fit for us than Maddison? He's fitted in seamlessly, his playing style just oozes Spurs and he feels like he's been here for years.

Signing of the season without a doubt, don't even need the rest of the season to conclude to know this.
Can’t think of many, especially not ones who have adapted and fitted in so quickly.

He’s a great fit for our club and joe we traditionally like to play football and how we play under Ange, absolute joy to watch him play.

Glad we didn’t sign him under Jose/Conte etc as they’d have pissed him off and ruined him, not that they’d look to sign such a creative fun player anyway.

Van Der Ven said he’s the best player he’s played with/ the best at spurs
 

ZiggySpurs

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James Maddison is rapidly becoming one of my favourite Premier League footballers; he plays and speaks like he is from a bygone era.
There is a cheeky charm to Maddison on and off the pitch – a maverick who puts you in mind of 1970 icons Rodney Marsh or Frank Worthington. He wants to entertain with the ball and has no filter when asked for opinions. You cannot be sure if he is talking about the game or recreating a scene from The Inbetweeners.

“When I go for a roast dinner with my family, I like to be the main man,” was a typically funny comment earlier this season, as was last weekend’s breakdown of Bukayo Saka’s attempt to match his goal celebration by miming playing darts.
“He must have still been doing it when I turned him for the first goal. His action was terrible,” said Maddison
When he referred to ‘Daniel’ on the day he was unveiled following his £45 million signing from Leicester City, I wasn’t sure if he was talking about his new boss Daniel Levy or his mate from the pub.

Given some of Maddison’s recent comments, you could be forgiven for thinking he has been at Spurs for six years rather than six games.
After Tottenham’s excellent 2-2 draw with Arsenal, he said this.

“Fans and neutrals talk about Tottenham, they often say ‘soft, weak, bottle it, Spursy’, all that is rubbish. I think the last couple of weeks shows we might be going in a slightly different direction.”

You’d think he was a veteran who had played through an era of underachievement, not a new arrival who had just taken Harry Kane’s jersey. The fact he was prepared to take the weight of the number 10 shirt is further proof of Maddison’s self-belief.

The modern game has too many players who think media training means removing a trace of personality, their idea of the perfect TV or newspaper interview being to give nothing away for fear of a negative headline.

How refreshing that a top player like Maddison has a ‘what you see is what you get’ approach. He probably has PR executives sweating every time he speaks. Manchester City’s Jack Grealish is cut from the same cloth. We should cherish and celebrate such individuals, their comments taken in the spirit intended.

We will certainly need a larger sample size before backing Maddison’s declarations about Spurs’ ‘soft’ days being over. Saturday’s visit of Liverpool is their latest test after looking the part at Arsenal last weekend. They have made a hugely encouraging start under a new manager and Maddison has been fundamental to their makeover.

His throwback style extends to his on-field role. With the utmost respect to Maddison and Spurs, it explains why his options during the summer did not include Manchester City, Arsenal and Liverpool.

I have no doubt all watched him for Leicester and at some point over the last three years considered signing him. The reason they said no is because Maddison’s most effective position is unfashionable for elite coaches.

Maddison excels most as an out-and-out number 10. Over the last six years - or certainly since Pep Guardiola’s 4-3-3 began dominating world football – such players are an endangered species.

There was a time when every creative player fancied themselves as the number 10. It became such a coveted role, I would roll my eyes every time a teammate said it was their preferred position as they felt frustrated being stuck out wide, denied the chance to run the game.
Now the position is perceived as a luxury, typified recently by someone such as Mesut Ozil who for all his skill gave the impression the hardest yards had to be run by ball-winning midfielders while he racked up the assists.

Jurgen Klopp inherited a number 10 in Philippe Coutinho, but it was only after the Brazilian left Anfield that the team became more balanced and Liverpool won the biggest trophies.

My suspicion is that Guardiola, Klopp, Mikel Arteta and Mauricio Pochettino took a look at Maddison and were swayed more by what he does not do more than his qualities.

In their best sides, Guardiola and Klopp expect multi-faceted attacking players or midfielders to assume the responsibility of those who once placed themselves just behind the main striker.

Maddison is not the quickest, nor does he stand-out as someone who will trigger a high-pressing game. He does not have the natural athleticism of a number 8, and he is less effective playing as a wide attacker cutting inside.

He shines knitting midfield and attack, deceptively quick in possession and technically superb at quickly seeing and delivering a defence-splitting pass.

In a period of transition at a club in dire need of a spark after the sale of Kane, Spurs emerged as the perfect club at the right time under the ideal manager. Credit must be given to Ange Postecoglou for identifying how to maximise Maddison’s assets, encouraging him to sprinkle the creative dust while the coach gets a tune out of the players he has inherited.

For now, seeing a team playing front-footed and imaginative football is enough for the Spurs fans, the team’s excellent start beyond their expectation at the start of a new era. Maddison has become a symbol of the fans’ growing sense that they ‘have their Spurs back’.
Longer-term, it will be fascinating to see if Postecoglou considers Maddison so good he can build the team around his creativity, or if he feels he needs a tweak as there are obvious dangers in allowing too much to flow through one imaginative player, no matter how good his form.
Tactically, having a genuine number 10 can be a problem against the best opponents.

Gareth Southgate preferred Maddison as a number 8 in a 4-3-3 for England. To justify being indulged as a number 10 at the highest level, the number of goals and assists must be prolific.

So far, Maddison is delivering, his attacking numbers placing him near the top in all areas. No player has made more passes into the opposition penalty area, while only Erling Haaland has taken more shots on goal. With Liverpool still without a traditional number 6, there could be gaps for Maddison to exploit on Saturday.

For now, Maddison looks like the prototype Spurs player, following in the traditions of Paul Gascoigne and Glenn Hoddle – an individual who puts a smile on supporters’ faces.

Football is always more joyful when characters like Maddison see the game as an art more than a science. He is one of those rare footballers that the home fans adore and even rival fans cannot help but be endeared by.
 

Col_M

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Feb 28, 2012
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Has a signing ever seemed more of a perfect fit for us than Maddison? He's fitted in seamlessly, his playing style just oozes Spurs and he feels like he's been here for years.

Signing of the season without a doubt, don't even need the rest of the season to conclude to know this.

Dele. Berbatov, Klinnsman, Waddle, Gazza, VdV, Keane. off the top of my head.
 

Col_M

Pointing out the Obvious
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I mean yeah there's a fair bit of recency bias and hyperbole in my post lol, but he's just slotted in like he's been here for years. Brilliant signing.

I agree with you, I'm amazed by what an impact he has made.
 

thelak

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Aug 31, 2012
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Has a signing ever seemed more of a perfect fit for us than Maddison? He's fitted in seamlessly, his playing style just oozes Spurs and he feels like he's been here for years.

Signing of the season without a doubt, don't even need the rest of the season to conclude to know this.
Reminds me of when Van Der Vaart joined and the instant connection
 

thelak

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Aug 31, 2012
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James Maddison is rapidly becoming one of my favourite Premier League footballers; he plays and speaks like he is from a bygone era.
There is a cheeky charm to Maddison on and off the pitch – a maverick who puts you in mind of 1970 icons Rodney Marsh or Frank Worthington. He wants to entertain with the ball and has no filter when asked for opinions. You cannot be sure if he is talking about the game or recreating a scene from The Inbetweeners.

“When I go for a roast dinner with my family, I like to be the main man,” was a typically funny comment earlier this season, as was last weekend’s breakdown of Bukayo Saka’s attempt to match his goal celebration by miming playing darts.
“He must have still been doing it when I turned him for the first goal. His action was terrible,” said Maddison
When he referred to ‘Daniel’ on the day he was unveiled following his £45 million signing from Leicester City, I wasn’t sure if he was talking about his new boss Daniel Levy or his mate from the pub.

Given some of Maddison’s recent comments, you could be forgiven for thinking he has been at Spurs for six years rather than six games.
After Tottenham’s excellent 2-2 draw with Arsenal, he said this.

“Fans and neutrals talk about Tottenham, they often say ‘soft, weak, bottle it, Spursy’, all that is rubbish. I think the last couple of weeks shows we might be going in a slightly different direction.”

You’d think he was a veteran who had played through an era of underachievement, not a new arrival who had just taken Harry Kane’s jersey. The fact he was prepared to take the weight of the number 10 shirt is further proof of Maddison’s self-belief.

The modern game has too many players who think media training means removing a trace of personality, their idea of the perfect TV or newspaper interview being to give nothing away for fear of a negative headline.

How refreshing that a top player like Maddison has a ‘what you see is what you get’ approach. He probably has PR executives sweating every time he speaks. Manchester City’s Jack Grealish is cut from the same cloth. We should cherish and celebrate such individuals, their comments taken in the spirit intended.

We will certainly need a larger sample size before backing Maddison’s declarations about Spurs’ ‘soft’ days being over. Saturday’s visit of Liverpool is their latest test after looking the part at Arsenal last weekend. They have made a hugely encouraging start under a new manager and Maddison has been fundamental to their makeover.

His throwback style extends to his on-field role. With the utmost respect to Maddison and Spurs, it explains why his options during the summer did not include Manchester City, Arsenal and Liverpool.

I have no doubt all watched him for Leicester and at some point over the last three years considered signing him. The reason they said no is because Maddison’s most effective position is unfashionable for elite coaches.

Maddison excels most as an out-and-out number 10. Over the last six years - or certainly since Pep Guardiola’s 4-3-3 began dominating world football – such players are an endangered species.

There was a time when every creative player fancied themselves as the number 10. It became such a coveted role, I would roll my eyes every time a teammate said it was their preferred position as they felt frustrated being stuck out wide, denied the chance to run the game.
Now the position is perceived as a luxury, typified recently by someone such as Mesut Ozil who for all his skill gave the impression the hardest yards had to be run by ball-winning midfielders while he racked up the assists.

Jurgen Klopp inherited a number 10 in Philippe Coutinho, but it was only after the Brazilian left Anfield that the team became more balanced and Liverpool won the biggest trophies.

My suspicion is that Guardiola, Klopp, Mikel Arteta and Mauricio Pochettino took a look at Maddison and were swayed more by what he does not do more than his qualities.

In their best sides, Guardiola and Klopp expect multi-faceted attacking players or midfielders to assume the responsibility of those who once placed themselves just behind the main striker.

Maddison is not the quickest, nor does he stand-out as someone who will trigger a high-pressing game. He does not have the natural athleticism of a number 8, and he is less effective playing as a wide attacker cutting inside.

He shines knitting midfield and attack, deceptively quick in possession and technically superb at quickly seeing and delivering a defence-splitting pass.

In a period of transition at a club in dire need of a spark after the sale of Kane, Spurs emerged as the perfect club at the right time under the ideal manager. Credit must be given to Ange Postecoglou for identifying how to maximise Maddison’s assets, encouraging him to sprinkle the creative dust while the coach gets a tune out of the players he has inherited.

For now, seeing a team playing front-footed and imaginative football is enough for the Spurs fans, the team’s excellent start beyond their expectation at the start of a new era. Maddison has become a symbol of the fans’ growing sense that they ‘have their Spurs back’.
Longer-term, it will be fascinating to see if Postecoglou considers Maddison so good he can build the team around his creativity, or if he feels he needs a tweak as there are obvious dangers in allowing too much to flow through one imaginative player, no matter how good his form.
Tactically, having a genuine number 10 can be a problem against the best opponents.

Gareth Southgate preferred Maddison as a number 8 in a 4-3-3 for England. To justify being indulged as a number 10 at the highest level, the number of goals and assists must be prolific.

So far, Maddison is delivering, his attacking numbers placing him near the top in all areas. No player has made more passes into the opposition penalty area, while only Erling Haaland has taken more shots on goal. With Liverpool still without a traditional number 6, there could be gaps for Maddison to exploit on Saturday.

For now, Maddison looks like the prototype Spurs player, following in the traditions of Paul Gascoigne and Glenn Hoddle – an individual who puts a smile on supporters’ faces.

Football is always more joyful when characters like Maddison see the game as an art more than a science. He is one of those rare footballers that the home fans adore and even rival fans cannot help but be endeared by.
Anyone paste it?
 

HildoSpur

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Ange said he trained today so you have to think he will be fit for tomorrow though apparently still in a bit of discomfort.
 

dagraham

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I’m just surprised so many people are surprised that he’s made such an impact.

I’ve thought he was a true “Spurs” type player since we were linked to him years ago.

It was an utter no brainer to sign him, regardless of the fee.

Let’s hope he can stay fit and let’s hope Bentacour can continue his recovery, because I think Maddison will be even more dangerous when he gets back as he won’t have to drop as deep.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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Dele. Berbatov, Klinnsman, Waddle, Gazza, VdV, Keane. off the top of my head.
Defoe too.

You could also arguably throw in Van Der Ven who is such a Tottenham style ball playing CB and has hit the ground running.

I agree with the OP though Maddison has settled in particularly quickly, feels like he's been our player for years.

As he said when he joined he felt like playing for Spurs and wearing the Spurs shirt would be a good fit and would feel right and it does.

Hope he and Sonny are able to start against Liverpool, we will need their magic.
 

Cochise

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I know this comes across as quite defeatist, but I'd rather just rest him tomorrow if he's not 100% and take whatever result we can get. He's so integral to what we do that if he starts tomorrow and really injures his knee we will miss him for longer.
 

Montalbano

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I know this comes across as quite defeatist, but I'd rather just rest him tomorrow if he's not 100% and take whatever result we can get. He's so integral to what we do that if he starts tomorrow and really injures his knee we will miss him for longer.
Maddison has big balls. If the physios rule him fit; he’ll be demanding to play. And if he doesn’t, I don’t think we have a chance against them tbh.

He’s the key man right now, so of course there’s risk, but you can’t discount the long-term psychological boost that beating Liverpool (for what, the first time on over half a decade?) will give this squad
 

jordibwoy

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Do we even know if the knee is the issue? Ange came out in the post-match presser last weekend and said both he and Son have been dealing with knocks prior to the NLD.

There has been no clear update on what those knocks are and he mentioned they both came through practice yesterday, which means whatever knock they had prior to the NLD is probably what they're currently still dealing with.

At the very least, Madders being in training means there were no damages to the ligaments in his knee, which is great news as far as I'm concerned.
 

EQP

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Maddison stats .jpg
 

fishhhandaricecake

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Maddison has big balls. If the physios rule him fit; he’ll be demanding to play. And if he doesn’t, I don’t think we have a chance against them tbh.

He’s the key man right now, so of course there’s risk, but you can’t discount the long-term psychological boost that beating Liverpool (for what, the first time on over half a decade?) will give this squad
Yep much more important we risk him and sonny against Liverpool and they’re potentially out next game against Luton than the other way round.

Fingers and toes crossed they both start.
 

chas vs dave

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I know this comes across as quite defeatist, but I'd rather just rest him tomorrow if he's not 100% and take whatever result we can get. He's so integral to what we do that if he starts tomorrow and really injures his knee we will miss him for longer.
I'd rather play him, then rest him in the next fixture, away to Luton
 

Japhet

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Can’t think of many, especially not ones who have adapted and fitted in so quickly.

He’s a great fit for our club and joe we traditionally like to play football and how we play under Ange, absolute joy to watch him play.

Glad we didn’t sign him under Jose/Conte etc as they’d have pissed him off and ruined him, not that they’d look to sign such a creative fun player anyway.

Van Der Ven said he’s the best player he’s played with/ the best at spurs


The way he dovetails with Bissouma is also a joy to watch. Opponents know they have to try to press Bissouma or he'll just keep going forward, but he beats it so often. That creates the space Maddison needs to pull the strings. They are, imo, a perfect combination, and that's not taking anything away from Sarr either because they ignore him at their peril.
 
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