Player Watch: Kieran Trippier

[Paolo10]

There's the position when United were 'gifted' the ball, is it not fair to say they have a fair bit to do there?

Did he not try to close Pogba after the bad pass? Did he hide after the mistake? Was he scared of getting on the ball the rest of the game? To lay all the responsibility at one player's door isn't something I agree with, but it's a common theme here when we drop points. Another day he has two assists at least and we win the game.

There are a section of very vocal fans who are so negatively biased against KT that it's almost like they want him to fail, team threads, match threads and this thread all with the same names and negative comments.

Personally I've still yet to see anything from the other options that makes me think either of them are a better pick at this point overall for the side, especially not Serge (sadly).

Do any of the naysayers honestly see Poch dropping him and if not, why not so? I think he offers far more than any other option which is why he's going to remain first choice IMO.

It's not like DL's going to sign any better competition for him any time soon.

 

[Hakkz]

What I find striking is how Kane, Alli and Son were all on top of each other. I know Kane can drop deep, because he's such a good footballer. But I still prefer him up top.

I'd like Son to stay a bit wider. He's pacy enough and it pulls a defender away. It's better to let Kane have the central area with Alli coming from behind occasionally.

 

[Stamford]

The worst bit about the pass is that he doesn't actually look. I honestly think everything has gone to his head rather than him becoming shit.

 

[Paolo10]

44th minute and we were more open than a whore's legs.

What's gone to his head? Is this the arrogant label that seems to have been banded about or about the criticism?

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

It was both a poor pass and an all round poor display. How many times did the ball bobble away from him and land at Pogba's feet ?

How many times did that happen to other players? Sissoko does it all the time. I think because of who he is, because he's SC's current fashionable scapegoat and because people are looking for it, every tiny thing is highlighted and pounced upon in the usual way with whichever poor sod who's turn it is to be the **** of choice. Evidence of shitness can be found in every player if people really want to.

He's reached Sissoko levels of derision and ridicule. And look how that turned out. So I'm pretty confident that once again, a lot of people who couldn't tell a footballer from a shitstick and are going well over the top with the criticism (I'm not suggesting that's you). I'm not saying he's perfect, excellent or we couldn't get better or indeed there aren't sometimes reasons to criticise it's the nature of it that doesn't sit well with me.

It's like a pack of starving animals have just been thrown a sausage. If something can even vaguely be seen as an error, it will be. Hugo is another for whom the standards are perfection or else. I guess he's scapegoat in waiting. We'll always have one I suppose

So apologies for quoting your post, it was the bobbling away bit that caught my eye, pretty much every player gives the ball away. Dembele for example, routinely (OK not routinely but I've seen it a few times) plays a square ball to the feet of an opposing player yet he's not a scapegoat so he gets away with it. There's a can of worms opened, right there

 

[Capocrimini]

There's the position when United were 'gifted' the ball, is it not fair to say they have a fair bit to do there?

Did he not try to close Pogba after the bad pass? Did he hide after the mistake? Was he scared of getting on the ball the rest of the game? To lay all the responsibility at one player's door isn't something I agree with, but it's a common theme here when we drop points. Another day he has two assists at least and we win the game.

There are a section of very vocal fans who are so negatively biased against KT that it's almost like they want him to fail, team threads, match threads and this thread all with the same names and negative comments.

Personally I've still yet to see anything from the other options that makes me think either of them are a better pick at this point overall for the side, especially not Serge (sadly).

Do any of the naysayers honestly see Poch dropping him and if not, why not so? I think he offers far more than any other option which is why he's going to remain first choice IMO.

It's not like DL's going to sign any better competition for him any time soon.

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I can't remember as many high profile mistakes from KWP or Serge. Trippier this season, Vs Lolpool/City/Utd/Wolves has played poor and made stupid mistakes.

Pogba and Rashford had to convert of course, but he has given them the opportunity to create a goal from a an uneccessary transition.

We lost cos we couldn't score, but that mistake was criminal.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

PS: I see in the ratings thread Trippier got four Man of the Match ratings. I'll hold my hands up, one was from me. I regularly vote for the scapegoat

 

[allatsea]

How many times did that happen to other players? Sissoko does it all the time. I think because of who he is, because he's SC's current fashionable scapegoat and because people are looking for it, every tiny thing is highlighted and pounced upon in the usual way with whichever poor sod who's turn it is to be the **** of choice. Evidence of shitness can be found in every player if people really want to.

He's reached Sissoko levels of derision and ridicule. And look how that turned out. So I'm pretty confident that once again, a lot of people who couldn't tell a footballer from a shitstick and are going well over the top with the criticism (I'm not suggesting that's you). I'm not saying he's perfect, excellent or we couldn't get better or indeed there aren't sometimes reasons to criticise it's the nature of it that doesn't sit well with me.

It's like a pack of starving animals have just been thrown a sausage. If something can even vaguely be seen as an error, it will be. Hugo is another for whom the standards are perfection or else. I guess he's scapegoat in waiting. We'll always have one I suppose

So apologies for quoting your post, it was the bobbling away bit that caught my eye, pretty much every player gives the ball away. Dembele for example, routinely (OK not routinely but I've seen it a few times) plays a square ball to the feet of an opposing player yet he's not a scapegoat so he gets away with it. There's a can of worms opened, right there

Fair points but in my defence it is where Tripps gives the ball away that is so dangerous particularly when we were playing two CDs neither of which can be described as pacy. If we really must play Tripps then we should revert to three CDs which gives him that extra bit of freedom.

 

[Hakkz]

PS: I see in the ratings thread Trippier got four Man of the Match ratings. I'll hold my hands up, one was from me. I regularly vote for the scapegoat [/QUOTE]

 

[wrd]

The difference between Trippier and the other players mentioned who play shit passes is that if Trippier plays a bad pass because of his position there's going to be an opportunity for the attacking team to isolate our cb's who will be on the backfoot. I think at times he lacks the awareness of potential danger (United in F.A cup semi final, playing a pass to Dembele who was being pressed and had nobody to pass to) but also he has a few times now played the pass across the middle nonchalantly without getting his head up for example last night and against Wolves. He needs to take more care of the ball and be more aware of what danger is around him.

 

[T-Love92]

His crosses are still his biggest asset ... but those brainfart passes have become a regular thing for him and often it cause a lot of trouble because they are in the build up, when the whole team is pushing forward...

It's not that I would want to see him go as soon as possible...but KWP deserves a fair chance plus we haven't seen the best of Aurier ... so Trips should at least be dropped for those big games in which Poch seems to put him in all the time

 

[Japhet]

There's the position when United were 'gifted' the ball, is it not fair to say they have a fair bit to do there?

Did he not try to close Pogba after the bad pass? Did he hide after the mistake? Was he scared of getting on the ball the rest of the game? To lay all the responsibility at one player's door isn't something I agree with, but it's a common theme here when we drop points. Another day he has two assists at least and we win the game.

There are a section of very vocal fans who are so negatively biased against KT that it's almost like they want him to fail, team threads, match threads and this thread all with the same names and negative comments.

Personally I've still yet to see anything from the other options that makes me think either of them are a better pick at this point overall for the side, especially not Serge (sadly).

Do any of the naysayers honestly see Poch dropping him and if not, why not so? I think he offers far more than any other option which is why he's going to remain first choice IMO.

It's not like DL's going to sign any better competition for him any time soon.

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They did have a bit to do, but the pass was so bad (and Pogba's was so good) that it really was just a matter of whether Rashford could beat Lloris. Giving the ball away so cheaply in such a dangerous area really is unforgivable, particularly since Trippier wasn't even looking. The upshot was that Davies and Vertonghen were completely wrong footed. I also blame Poch to an extent for continually playing Trippier in a back 4. As a wing back with a back 3 he's a real asset, but in a 4 he's a real liability, and we don't seem to play a back 3 any more. The way things stand I'd have Aurier or KWP every time ahead of Trippier.

 

[Nebby]

Trippier's terrible pass was our continuing problem in microcosm: we panic / rush things in the big games, when cool heads need to prevail. Two minutes earlier he was getting involved in a needless scrap.

As a team we dominated the second half, but never really looked like we were in control. There was a nervousness and increasing sense of desperation as each chance was missed. It never felt like a goal was coming; it felt like chances were slipping away.

First rule in the games against the big boys: don't do anything to lose the game! We still haven't learnt that one.

 

[Marty]

They did have a bit to do, but the pass was so bad (and Pogba's was so good) that it really was just a matter of whether Rashford could beat Lloris. Giving the ball away so cheaply in such a dangerous area really is unforgivable, particularly since Trippier wasn't even looking. The upshot was that Davies and Vertonghen were completely wrong footed. I also blame Poch to an extent for continually playing Trippier in a back 4. As a wing back with a back 3 he's a real asset, but in a 4 he's a real liability, and we don't seem to play a back 3 any more. The way things stand I'd have Aurier or KWP every time ahead of Trippier.

This, this, a thousand times this.

Trippier has a lot of qualities for a back 3/5, but is found out far too often in a 4.

 

[rossdapep]

It's his fucking job to cover him.

That's maybe true but it's not his job to cover for him when he gives away possession so cheaply when in either his own half or when we are building an attack and Trippier is only half way.

Sissoko should only be covering for him when Trippier has ventured far forward (and he's done this superbly may I add), it isn't to cover for him because he gave the ball away needlessly from midfield. That's what this article is getting at, it's stating that Trippier can't be trusted and as Sissoko went off it was completely proven.

I'm not needlessly bashing Trippier, it's just he doesn't fit what we are trying to achieve, he's not dynamic enough, despite his improvements. I'd much rather have someone who can roam on that flank and not have to worry about them finding it hard to get back. The simple fact is if we want to win something we have to upgrade and get back to a FB pairing that we had in 15-17. There's a reason we are conceding more goals (soft goals too) with Trippier in the team than previous seasons gone by. There's also a reason why we are looking at Aarons.

 

[rossdapep]

Trippier's terrible pass was our continuing problem in microcosm: we panic / rush things in the big games, when cool heads need to prevail. Two minutes earlier he was getting involved in a needless scrap.

As a team we dominated the second half, but never really looked like we were in control. There was a nervousness and increasing sense of desperation as each chance was missed. It never felt like a goal was coming; it felt like chances were slipping away.

First rule in the games against the big boys: don't do anything to lose the game! We still haven't learnt that one.

I'm not sure if that's entirely fair. We learnt against Chelsea (twice this season) and we ensured that we came back against Barca. We've seen a few games out recently where we had to dig a bit deeper and be smarter, so I do think we are getting there. There are going to be games where it happens, it's difficult to completely eradicate it, especially if you can't go spend 70m on a new CB or RB.

The problem is when it's the same player making the same mistake, that's a weakness and the opposition will look to expose it.

 

[southlondonyiddo]

How many times did that happen to other players? Sissoko does it all the time. I think because of who he is, because he's SC's current fashionable scapegoat and because people are looking for it, every tiny thing is highlighted and pounced upon in the usual way with whichever poor sod who's turn it is to be the **** of choice. Evidence of shitness can be found in every player if people really want to.

He's reached Sissoko levels of derision and ridicule. And look how that turned out. So I'm pretty confident that once again, a lot of people who couldn't tell a footballer from a shitstick and are going well over the top with the criticism (I'm not suggesting that's you). I'm not saying he's perfect, excellent or we couldn't get better or indeed there aren't sometimes reasons to criticise it's the nature of it that doesn't sit well with me.

It's like a pack of starving animals have just been thrown a sausage. If something can even vaguely be seen as an error, it will be. Hugo is another for whom the standards are perfection or else. I guess he's scapegoat in waiting. We'll always have one I suppose

So apologies for quoting your post, it was the bobbling away bit that caught my eye, pretty much every player gives the ball away. Dembele for example, routinely (OK not routinely but I've seen it a few times) plays a square ball to the feet of an opposing player yet he's not a scapegoat so he gets away with it. There's a can of worms opened, right there

To be fair to everyone on here it is extremely difficult to tell the difference. Especially playing at Wembley where we are so far away from the pitch. Even on the telly now unless you've got super HD monochrome gold with bells on bollox the screen is fuzzy

 

[SE Spurs]

Wish he'd have taken one of the free kicks from outside the D yesterday. Defensively I think he's poor, but his FKs from the edge of the box is arguably better than Kane and Eriksen. And both efforts yesterday were pretty tame. If hes playing, at least have him doing what he's good at.

 

[wrd]

The injuries might mean an opportunity to switch to a back 3 and that would be great for him.

 

[yankspurs]

From the moment he made the poor pass he played poorly, maybe his head went. Before that he did well and he played well against chelsea. I would get rid of him tomorrow if I could though

He was abysmal before that pass. Its wild how people are now forgetting he gave it away at least twice beforehand and was also caught out multiple times. Cant blame them scoring off his pass for him going to shit when he was shit beforehand. Maybe he’s just a shit player