Ex-Player Watch Player Watch: Kyle Walker

[Hazardousman]

Absolutely this.

People can spin this whatever way they like but selling any of our first team players to a direct rival is setting a very dangerous precedent in terms of the other players. Could we use the money to reinvest? Of course but it's not as simple as that.

You consider the precarious contract situation with Alderweireld and all of a sudden selling Walker could be a horrendous catalyst for other first team players demanding moves.

It's the instability and uncertainty that could spread, the media lapping it up and constantly fueling the flames.

For me I wouldn't sell a single first team player this summer. We're the envy of the league and so close to the new stadium.

This is more than just individual players, it's about preserving what we've built.

Pochettino is a stunning coach, but if we were to lose half our defensive line this summer we'd undoubtedly weaken ourselves for next season. This team has grown under Pochettino, and grown together.

Selling to a domestic rival, given what we've achieved under Pochettino, is just mind blowing to me.

It's like ringing the dinner bell, lads it's Tottenham and their open for business again.

Sorry, but fuck that.

Completely agree with you, would be completely idiotic to sell to a direct rival.

Quite frankly it would be stupid to sell him full stop.

The truth is, at this point, given our circumstances and our manager the only reason players would be moving is for more money, if that's the case then frankly Levy either has to increase wages or sell and risk undoing all the work Poch has done.

Money cannot buy the team spirit we have and you just know, if one goes, the whole deck will likely fall, at the very least it will cause enough instability to affect us.

Anybody that tries to tell me the media doesn't have an agenda against us can look at these last few weeks as an example, we have had nearly every single one of our players linked away and like Poch has said today, it's only really us facing these rumours, they want to destabilise us, try and turn our players heads or take their focus away from the games and sadly, history has proven it works, I have faith our players aren't going to let that happen though.

 

[THFC_SWE]

IF he wants to go to Man C, slap a £70m price tag on him. They have the money (paid fucking £50m for Stones) and need to strenghten in that position. Walker has 4 year left on his contract. If Man City says no way, tell them to fuck off. We got the better hand in this one.

 

[tiger666]

Money cannot buy the team spirit we have and you just know, if one goes, the whole deck will likely fall, at the very least it will cause enough instability to affect us.

The deck didn't fall when we sold Berbatov, Modric, Bale or whoever else.

 

[For the love of Spurs]

IF he wants to go to Man C, slap a £70m price tag on him. They have the money (paid fucking £50m for Stones) and need to strenghten in that position. Walker has 4 year left on his contract. If thet say no way, tell them to fuck off. We have the better cards.

Exactly either extort them for so much cash they pay for our entire summer window or keep him. Anyway pretty sure that's what Levy will do as he does that anyway.

 

[For the love of Spurs]

The deck didn't fall when we sold Berbatov, Modric, Bale or whoever else.

Spot on, bigger teams than us lose players, if we use the money and get 2-4 good players we are stronger than we where before anyway.

 

[spurs9]

Absolutely this.

People can spin this whatever way they like but selling any of our first team players to a direct rival is setting a very dangerous precedent in terms of the other players. Could we use the money to reinvest? Of course but it's not as simple as that.

You consider the precarious contract situation with Alderweireld and all of a sudden selling Walker could be a horrendous catalyst for other first team players demanding moves.

It's the instability and uncertainty that could spread, the media lapping it up and constantly fueling the flames.

For me I wouldn't sell a single first team player this summer. We're the envy of the league and so close to the new stadium.

This is more than just individual players, it's about preserving what we've built.

Pochettino is a stunning coach, but if we were to lose half our defensive line this summer we'd undoubtedly weaken ourselves for next season. This team has grown under Pochettino, and grown together.

Selling to a domestic rival, given what we've achieved under Pochettino, is just mind blowing to me.

It's like ringing the dinner bell, lads it's Tottenham and their open for business again.

Sorry, but fuck that.

I don't actually think it will have the knock on effect you think, Leicester managed to keep hold of Vardy and Mahrez despite selling Kante for example.

Saying that, I don't want to sell Walker purely for the reason I can't think of one player that we could replace him with that is even as good as him, let alone an improvement.

 

[felmani26]

I don't actually think it will have the knock on effect you think, Leicester managed to keep hold of Vardy and Mahrez despite selling Kante for example.

Saying that, I don't want to sell Walker purely for the reason I can't think of one player that we could replace him with that is even as good as him, let alone an improvement.

I don't think you want to cite Leicester as the example here @spurs9 but I get your point.

At the moment we can only speculate but it's clear there are issues afoot - that doesn't however mean it's terminal with an inevitable move to one of our title rivals.

 

[Hazardousman]

The deck didn't fall when we sold Berbatov, Modric, Bale or whoever else.

This is a different situation, we have a lot more to lose now than we did then, this is a side on the cusp of something truly special, if we can't keep players in the situation we are currently in with the new stadium on the horizon then I can't see a situation where we ever will.

Kane has even said, as long as we are moving in the right direction that is what matters to him (this was when he was asked a while back about clubs being interested in him.)

See selling important players is not a sign we are moving in the right direction, can you imagine if Ferguson sold any of those youth players right before United won their first? Would they have been the same? I doubt it.

Players like Alli and Lloris and Kane and Toby and Eriksen and Verts etc, they could all be playing for clubs that would pay them double what they get here, I feel like we would see a chain reaction if a really important player left and even if we didn't it would destabilise the team enough to cause problems I think.

Also, I would argue someone like Toby, for example, is more important than Bale or Modric ever was, this team is built on it's defensive strength and the reason it is so strong is because Jan and him have been a partnership with Ajax and with us, that's going to be hard to buy with any amount of money.

Long story short, I am not saying if one gets sold we would sell every other player but I do think for our top players it would probably set alarm bells ringing and make them question what this club truly wants to achieve because given our circumstances currently I fail to see what other reason there would be for a player to move other than money.

 

[djw1973]

We have KWP coming through and Trippier is starting to step up. If a player is unhappy, then get rid. He made loads of mistakes against Palace and at this point of the season, with his experience and going for the title I can understand why he was dropped for Trippier v Arsenal. He obviously sees himself as the senior player and probably felt that he should have played against the scum, but Poch has rotated him and Trippier for quite a while now. His change of social media post to him in an England strip is him trying to tell everyone that he is an international and first choice.

He needs to wake up and look at what is best for the team. We don't need to sell him and maybe benching him would send a signal to the rest of the team. Poch doesn't take any crap and if he is being disruptive he will be off, the question is how much and to where?

If he does go to City, then let's make sure we get at least Iheanacho. At least we will weaken them and strengthen our attacking options.

 

[Mr Pink]

I don't actually think it will have the knock on effect you think, Leicester managed to keep hold of Vardy and Mahrez despite selling Kante for example.

Saying that, I don't want to sell Walker purely for the reason I can't think of one player that we could replace him with that is even as good as him, let alone an improvement.

The difference for me is that our players have been hitting greater heights for longer, more consistent periods than Vardy and Mahrez - despite them having one great season.

I could see greater interest in our players.

Anyway it's all speculation at this stage, and I.trust Poch/Levy wont be rolled over easily.

 

[Mr Pink]

The deck didn't fall when we sold Berbatov, Modric, Bale or whoever else.

Only Berbatov was sold to a domestic rival on that list - and let's be honest they weren't even a rival back then.

The landscape exceptionally different now.

 

[dricha1]

IF he wants to go to Man C, slap a £70m price tag on him. They have the money (paid fucking £50m for Stones) and need to strenghten in that position. Walker has 4 year left on his contract. If Man City says no way, tell them to fuck off. We got the better hand in this one.

Yep agree with this, and it wouldn't be in Walkers interest to cause too much trouble, next season is a World Cup season.

 

[tiger666]

Only Berbatov was sold to a domestic rival on that list - and let's be honest they weren't even a rival back then.

The landscape exceptionally different now.

That may be the case but I can't remember there ever being a "mass exodus" in our history, which is what some people seem to be implying will happen if Kyle Walker leaves. Give the players some credit, they're not all going to want to jump ship as we're challenging for titles because we sold a right back.

 

[spurs9]

The difference for me is that our players have been hitting greater heights for longer, more consistent periods than Vardy and Mahrez - despite them having one great season.

I could see greater interest in our players.

Anyway it's all speculation at this stage, and I.trust Poch/Levy wont be rolled over easily.

Leicester received interest in both players and actually accepted a bid from Arsenal for Vardy, but he turned it down.

I think our longevity at greater heights will be to our advantage, as players know this is now fluke, they believe in Poch and his ideas and IMO will trust that if Poch is letting Walker go, it won't be to the detriment of the team. I think Poch playing Trippier in big games like the semi final and Arsenal game will only aid that belief too, especially as the Semi final loss had nothing to do with Trippier and Walker coming on didn't have a positive impact on the game and we won v Arsenal.

 

[Mr Pink]

That may be the case but I can't remember there ever being a "mass exodus" in our history, which is what some people seem to be implying will happen if Kyle Walker leaves. Give the players some credit, they're not all going to want to jump ship as we're challenging for titles because we sold a right back.

We've more to lose now mate, we didnt for many years.

We havn't just sneaked into the top tier now, we've smashed it.

We're going to attract a lot of attention for many reasons, but we need to be careful and prudent.

A lot of these players will now attract interest from the top Clubs in the world who can pay more.

In previous years it was only ever one or two players the bigger Clubs were interested in. Our whole first eleven, plus a few more, would attract that sort of interest now.

We're on the cusp of something special so.I.think we're in quite precarious position now.

 

[WiganSpur]

Either sell him abroad for £40m or sell him to City for the same price and get Iheanacho in return. If MP thinks KWP is good enough then happy days if not then let's get a RB in first. Let's just make sure we use any money wisely on good quality this time.


Alderweireld on the other hand, we need to break the bank to keep him.

 

[Mr Pink]

Leicester received interest in both players and actually accepted a bid from Arsenal for Vardy, but he turned it down.

I think our longevity at greater heights will be to our advantage, as players know this is now fluke, they believe in Poch and his ideas and IMO will trust that if Poch is letting Walker go, it won't be to the detriment of the team. I think Poch playing Trippier in big games like the semi final and Arsenal game will only aid that belief too, especially as the Semi final loss had nothing to do with Trippier and Walker coming on didn't have a positive impact on the game and we won v Arsenal.

Well Let's hope so. That's the positive angle which I hope is the case.

The players can see how good Pochettino is as s coach and clearly believe in him. That's the huge plus in terms of keeping this group together.

As long as Poch has a say in what's happening we should be OK, as keeping him is the most important thing above any player sales.

 

[DJS]

Their proper fans liked them being rubbish. Was part of the attraction being able to say they were supporting them with 30k other proper salt of the Earth mancs in the 3rd division and poking fun at the glory supporting Utd fans from surrey. Now they are ten times worse.

At least they play good football vs Mourinho era Chelsea that spent billions and were dull as ditchwater but still hard to take City or anyone joining them seriously when most of our lives they have been a joke club. Guess as with the lure of China money talks

Genuinely not sure what a relative simpleton like Walker needs with the extra cash when he is on it seems c. £4m a year at Spurs if he is happy

Simpleton lol

 

[tttcowan]

I think we need to get at least 50 for him. Hopefully a big figure like that will put others off going for our crown jewels. Yeah, Alli, he's not for sale but our current valuation is 120 mill anyway which you couldn't afford even if we were willing to sell him. Go on then. Fuck off. Mugs.

 

[Cornpattbuck]

Poch did make Clyne look world class and the guy's looked pony for England and Liverpool. If this is his decision and the amounts that are being talked about come in, I've come around to coping with it.