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Player Watch: Nabil Bentaleb

THFCSPURS19

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Imagine if he not from academy and keep making stupid mistake week in week out, can't even pass in 3 yards properly most of your guys will never protects him like this...asked Chiriches , Stambouli .

This boy just the most lucky footballer in the world...never rated since first season lucky from Tim and now he still never learn how to pass properly lucky annoying character bastard boy he think he already big in the team and people on here keep saying how important how amazing he is wow! I see nothing can't pass can't defend what good about him oh he's from academy!

PS. Don't judge I'm anti-academy player yet - I'm support every academy boy that good enough my fav boy like Oduwa, Onomah, Veljkovic, CCV , Winks, Caroll , KWP, Edwards and the new exciting boy from MK Dons Dele Alli I really like Alli I want Alli to take Bentaleb place soon, he's a real deal better all around footballer.

Oh and yes Bentaleb still young he can learn one day so what ! keep him repeat stupid mistake school boy error week in week out that' okay for you guys?? This is one of the Best club fighting in TOP 4 places no room for school boy error please! If he can't provide real quality for team then first teamer not place for him, this is how bad our club keep promoted the wrong boy.

I don't really like Bentaleb attitude he think he already big for the team and want big money already he still not prove anything for me he good enough , I observed him very close I see how annoying character he is...never a fan of him sorry.
I think some people are having visions. He makes a couple of bad passes in one match and suddenly he's done it every week and can't pass properly.

I'm lost for words.
 

Hotspur33

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His passing was poor yesterday. But nothing to panic about. He will know it was not good enough, and it will hopefully drive him to do better as he is a winner
 

TheGreenLily

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How the fuck is he out of his depth if he was our best midfielder last season in a season where we finished 5th? For one bad game involving Bentaleb, I could name 15 good games. But that's the problem with some people, once someone has a bad game, it's the end of the world and suddenly everything good they've done is forgotten. The same happened with Rose last season, he was having a very good season and then he had one bad game (against Leicester and think) and suddenly loads of people came back to say how bad he was.

15 good games? and we played what 50-60 games last season... so that is about 25-30% of time he decides to show up...

Okay okay... 38 PL games... so, he is only good for 39.47% of the time.... Of course that is your opinion, but mine would have a lot less good games.

So from your perspective. In a industry worth billions of pounds a years, where players are paid millions a year, do you think that being good 39.47% is good enough for CL chasing side, in a highly important position in the centre of park, trying to dominate the play and opposition?
 

THFCSPURS19

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15 good games? and we played what 50-60 games last season... so about 25-30% he decides to show up?

Okay okay... 38 PL games... so good for only 39.47% of the time.... Of course that is your opinion, but mine would have a lot less good games.

So from your perspective. In a industry worth billions of pounds a years, where players are paid millions a year, do you think that being good 39.47% is good enough for CL chasing side, in a highly important position in the centre of park, trying to dominate the play and opposition?
What the actual fuck?

I said FOR EVERY ONE BAD GAME, so if he has a few bad games, the vast majority were good. More like 90%-you've tried to be clever, and failed.
 

TheGreenLily

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What the actual fuck?

I said FOR EVERY ONE BAD GAME, so if he has a few bad games, the vast majority were good. More like 90%-you've tried to be clever, and failed.
Oops, miss read that one..

Still, he was dominated far to much last season, he had about 5-6 good games....

Deal with it, he ain't good enough yet... And even then that is an "if"...
 

tttcowan

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15 good games? and we played what 50-60 games last season... so that is about 25-30% of time he decides to show up...

Okay okay... 38 PL games... so, he is only good for 39.47% of the time.... Of course that is your opinion, but mine would have a lot less good games.

So from your perspective. In a industry worth billions of pounds a years, where players are paid millions a year, do you think that being good 39.47% is good enough for CL chasing side, in a highly important position in the centre of park, trying to dominate the play and opposition?

100% of the time Tom Huddlestone was good enough to get us into the Champions league as we qualified with him in the team. Bentaleb however was good enough 0% of the time as we did not qualify. Perhaps we should of signed Tom Cleverley as at least he was 100% good enough to qualify for the Champions League for at least 1 season. 1 season divided by 100 is 4.... Uhm... Billions of pounds though football is worth! So we can conclude that Bentaleb is not good enough! That's science bitches.
 

THFCSPURS19

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Oops, miss read that one..

Still, he was dominated far to much last season, he had about 5-6 good games....

Deal with it, he ain't good enough yet... And even then that is an "if"...
Wow, there's your comeback- 'Deal with it'.

OK, I shall....not.
 

THFCSPURS19

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It's not a come back, it's a statement of fact...

But you can't see that with head buried firmly in the sand.

I am out of here, not wasting my time talking to the blind.
No, it's an opinion, which you can seemingly never accept. That, you know, people have other thoughts/opinions and you may not always be right.
 

TheGreenLily

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100% of the time Tom Huddlestone was good enough to get us into the Champions league as we qualified with him in the team. Bentaleb however was good enough 0% of the time as we did not qualify. Perhaps we should of signed Tom Cleverley as at least he was 100% good enough to qualify for the Champions League for at least 1 season. 1 season divided by 100 is 4.... Uhm... Billions of pounds though football is worth! So we can conclude that Bentaleb is not good enough! That's science bitches.
I didn't think Huddlestone was good enough either...

Sorry, but what part of he is not good enough do you not understand? It doesn't mean I want him ejected from the club like a piece of shit, it just means he needs to be an understudy to some to learn from and we don;t have anyone like that.

He is not good enough and sorry, our CM pairing was shit last season and that was not entirely down Mason. Our goals conceded was appalling to and that was not all entirely down to the defence either. Far too many time teams just walk through our midfield like it was not there, we was opened up far to easily...

Also, he is not creative, most of his passes are backwards or side ways, he makes far to many mistakes... He needs a seasoned pro to learn from and unfortunately, we do not have one...

Anyway, I am out here, I cant be asked to talk to the blind today.
 

Lighty64

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Funny how everyone was pleading with the club to get him a new contract in the summer yet no-one was saying he should be a bench player.

Anyway I'm on about the OTT criticism of him which is undeserved, he does need to buck his ideas up but let's not start calling him shit just yet.

I wouldn't call him shit, but I also wouldn't call him good.

yesterdays mistake was made too many times last season too. in his 1st full season he had 2 assist, and 0 EPL goals. he is too lazy when he passes and awareness, and way too often gives the ball away when we are pretty high up the pitch.

his position is one of the most important positions on the pitch, he is there to help our defence, not put pressure on them as often as he does, he is meant to be part 2 of the SPINE, not strong enough or clever enough i'm afraid, just look at our goals conceded last season
 

whitesocks

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I do not think he is short of confidence - quite the reverse - he is over confident and that is why he often misplaces simple passes.
It was a high profile mistake but he is still young and talented.
I'd have put him at LB to make amends - he looked very assured there at the end of the season.
And in the absence of bringing on a second striker - fat chance - replacing a defender with a midfielder is a positive change.
 

Barry Mead

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Yeah! that what I want the whole world know how spurs fan in this forum to wake up! he' not good enough for Premier league level.


I'm not a fan of Bentaleb but to be fair there's an awful lot of players that play regularly in the PL that you can say that about but then they are ahead of other players. I think he has a lot of energy, his hearts in the right place but he is lacking skills and for me not a player who should be a first team regular starter particularly in only a two man unit. It doesn't mean he can't develop or he's not good enough to get in a number of the PL teams, I have no problem with him as a squad member, I'm happy for him to get a bit of playing time to try and develop he has moments when he can produce a lovely pass or a good tackle but really most players will do that from time to time it's the consistency with which a player does it that makes him a great player, a good player an average player or a poor player.
There's things that can be worked on but for me too many at this stage for a first team regular and also in a two man midfield there is little time and space to really develop enough and it's not as if the midfield gets too much support from the advanced players to give them that. He's still young and has a chance to develop but I think actually playing in that two will make it tougher to develop, he might gain a bit in experience but not have the opportunity to develop and improve certain skills
 

Barry Mead

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Someone needs to hand out Prozac to everyone entering this thread .
Your pessimism after one game is frankly morbidly embarrassing

Why do you make the mistake of assuming that everyone criticising him is doing it after one game

People are pointing out that they don't think he's that good watching him since he first stepped in under Sherwood. Frankly if anything is embarrassing it's your attempt to imply that the criticism is some knee jerk on one game
 

t79boy

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I am sorry, but a lot of fans put a lot of time, money and emotion into the club they love.

And when you see player who is not ready to take on the mantel of being in a leading figure in a CM role, start demanding bigger wages, then fuck up like he did yesterday, I think people will right call a spade a spade.

It is not pessimism for seeing and pointing that he is completely out of his depth and not ready yet.

I agree with your first paragraph but thats it.
I don't think anyone here thinks he is the finished article at 20. So taking the mantel of CM is a bit far off. As for his wages and contract etc , do you think nabil sits there and negotiates ? No his agent does , who is probabably a skilled veteran at it , who knows you aim for the sky and will settle for something realistic . Wouldn't you do the same if you were negotiating ?? Also what he demanded and what he got are probably two very different things . But what he demanded makes better shock reading to fans who want to add another nail to his coffin.
He had a bad game yesterday agreed but until he puts together a string of fuck ups i think your stance is unwarranted. I think you have a personal issue with nabil and therefore can not see he was probably one of our better performing midfielders last term consistency wise (backed up by the number of votes he got up in here when it came to MOTM voting).
To say he was out of his depth is ludicrous to say the least , I think last term he performed very well against the top sides who have better midfields than us.
All in all I think you are bang off the money
 

iluvsteffenfreund

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My mate is best pals with Luke shaw, pre match meeting Van gaal and his staff says to his players Bentaleb gives it away a lot. He will give you a chance. Wow! Everyone else seems to know it !
 

Barry Mead

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Right... I'm afraid you'll have to explain that one further. You've lost me.

Simply responding in kind to your assumption that I don't really know anything about football and the implication that because you have a different opinion on a player you do

You have a different opinion that's fine, trying to imply that someone who doesn't doesn't know what they are talking about is really rather childish
 
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