Player Watch Player Watch: Oliver Skipp

[AnotherSpursFan]

Ill take Skipp over Memphis Depay, Rashford, Martial and Neymar anytime of the day.

Talent without hard work and dedication can only takes you so far. Skipp has the right attitude, no prancing ponytail ( f Gallagher) to succeed and will be an important player for us in years to come.

 

[eddiebailey]

The same was said of winks, he’s moved to the championship and is finally excelling - because although he could do a job for a premier league team, he’ll stand out in a good championship one.

Imo winks is a better player than Skipp, I’m not sure what Skipp is good at in all honesty.

I think part of the reason Winks is looking so much better is that the Italian surgeons finally fixed his ankle and he is no longer playing through the pain and in fear of being permanently crocked.

Fair play to him that he decided to get on with his career rather than wait to see if Ange let him back in, but I reckon he would have got more playing time than PEH, GLC or Skippy.

Skipp will look a lot better if he starts playing regularly.

 

[djhotspur]

Ill take Skipp over Memphis Depay, Rashford, Martial and Neymar anytime of the day.

Talent without hard work and dedication can only takes you so far. Skipp has the right attitude, no prancing ponytail ( f Gallagher) to succeed and will be an important player for us in years to come.

He definitely won’t, he just is simply not good enough for any position in the system. He offers next to nothing.

 

[dovahkiin]

has no awareness of whats going on around him

 

[bubble07]

Swap him for winks

 

[djhotspur]

Not sure how you say he will never be a starter in our first team- he’s still really young and has a lot of scope and time to improve.

fwiw I thought he did well today

But it what position and over who? He’s levels below biss, sarr, Benta, Gio, Kulu

 

[Impspur1]

Not anywhere near a starter now and I admit I thought he would progress and become one, although I don’t think the constant change at the club has helped him. More than adequate as a squad player though, unless we get a decent bid that is too good to turn down.

 

[Joshua shepherd]

I think part of the reason Winks is looking so much better is that the Italian surgeons finally fixed his ankle and he is no longer playing through the pain and in fear of being permanently crocked.

Fair play to him that he decided to get on with his career rather than wait to see if Ange let him back in, but I reckon he would have got more playing time than PEH, GLC or Skippy.

Skipp will look a lot better if he starts playing regularly.

Definitely possible re the winks injury, glad he’s doing well somewhere else.

The problem with Skipp is he’s just not good enough to start playing regularly so when he gets the chance to play he needs to take it.

Last night for 40 minutes I don’t know if he touched the ball more than 10 times. Got better when he dropped deeper and had a decent 10 minute spell, but in a 70 minute game for him that’s not good enough imo.

 

[Yiddo100]

Just technically not good enough for us and how we play, get him in a team where he can win the ball back make a 10 yard pass to his teammates and let them do the attacking work and he’s fine.

Definitely can be a Top championship/lower prem player

 

[AnotherSpursFan]

 

[McFlash]

Come on now, you can’t actually have just compared Skipp to Gallagher?

Skipp is alright he just doesn’t fit our system. I personally think it would be better for all parties if he moved on soon. He needs game time and won’t get it here unfortunately.

No, I didn't compare them as players, that wasn't what i was getting at.

 

[McFlash]

The same was said of winks, he’s moved to the championship and is finally excelling - because although he could do a job for a premier league team, he’ll stand out in a good championship one.

Imo winks is a better player than Skipp, I’m not sure what Skipp is good at in all honesty.

I think there's more to Winks regaining his form than just dropping to the Championship.
He finally left his comfort zone and had surgery to fix his long-standing ankle injury, gaining more confidence along the way.
I also think that Winks and Skipp are different types of players and its a bit lazy to compare the two.

 

[McFlash]

I wouldn't mind seeing one of those compilation vids of his game last night, would be rather interesting.

 

[Joshua shepherd]

I think there's more to Winks regaining his form than just dropping to the Championship.
He finally left his comfort zone and had surgery to fix his long-standing ankle injury, gaining more confidence along the way.
I also think that Winks and Skipp are different types of players and its a bit lazy to compare the two.

But you’re missing the point, you’re adamant that Skipp is better than a championship player, in the same way people said that of winks, however I find it unlikely that any premier league teams would sign Skipp, and there were no premier league teams that signed winks.

Does that mean they’re not good enough to play in the prem, well no, there’s plenty of worse players than both of them, the point is there’s very few if any teams that would sign either of them in the belief that they’re the best they could get, hence why both have and will struggle to get a move to the prem.

 

[McFlash]

But you’re missing the point, you’re adamant that Skipp is better than a championship player, in the same way people said that of winks, however I find it unlikely that any premier league teams would sign Skipp, and there were no premier league teams that signed winks.

Does that mean they’re not good enough to play in the prem, well no, there’s plenty of worse players than both of them, the point is there’s very few if any teams that would sign either of them in the belief that they’re the best they could get, hence why both have and will struggle to get a move to the prem.

Yeah, I think I am missing the point.
I think he's PL quality and maybe you do too? Just that you don't see a PL signing him, so is that not a bit of a hypothetical statement?
We won't know who would be after him until it's decided that he needs to move, so we can't really base an opinion on that.

 

[Westmorlandspur]

I think part of the reason Winks is looking so much better is that the Italian surgeons finally fixed his ankle and he is no longer playing through the pain and in fear of being permanently crocked.

Fair play to him that he decided to get on with his career rather than wait to see if Ange let him back in, but I reckon he would have got more playing time than PEH, GLC or Skippy.

Skipp will look a lot better if he starts playing regularly.

Is it his ankle or is it just that he is playing a lower level of football. Skipp was Norwich player of the year in the championship when on loan.
Anyone who thinks there is not a massive gap between PL and Champ need only look at the 3 promoted teams. Played around 50 games between them and won about 6.
Pundits often come up with…..anyone can beat anyone……Very rare these days.
Last season Sunderland got up to the Champ via playoffs and got to play offs for the PL.. This season Ipswich go up and are 10 pts clear of 3rd place. Leicester prob be ok if they go up as they have a lot of prem quality players. Ipswich prob get buried.
There was always a fair gap between lge one and Champ but seems to be less these days.
Speaking if a Sunderland, every chance Jack Clarke will be in PL next season. Either promoted or sold . Either way we get a bucketful of cash.

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

In the match thread, I commented that Skipp looked lost when he came in. And I stand by that observation- he was looking lost, and looked like he was not ready to play when he came in.

But, with a little reflection, I think I ignored a bit of context. Skipp essentially came in for Deki. And Skipp probably has no idea how to play that 10 role - it does not suit his skills, so he probably hasn’t even trained there much. So, I think that explains a bit of his bewilderment when he came in, and also why he played a bit better when he moved deeper following the RC.

I still don’t think he is the standard we need, but it’s not as far off as his initial play suggested last night.

 

[eddiebailey]

Speaking if a Sunderland, every chance Jack Clarke will be in PL next season. Either promoted or sold . Either way we get a bucketful of cash.

Clarke is an interesting one. Unsuccessful on loan, far from outstanding in PL2, written off by most Spurs fans, offloaded aged 21.
Situation is different to Skipp’s, perhaps closer to someone like Parrott or Scarlett, but shows you never can tell. Anyway, hope he smashes it in the Premiership next season. Cirkin too if Sunderland go up, in which case there could even be a golden swan song for Pritchard, who is currently credited with setting up the most goal scoring opportunities in the Championship. That could I suppose bear out the point about the gulf in class, but I always thought he was slumming it down there.

 

[DiVaio]

The same was said of winks, he’s moved to the championship and is finally excelling - because although he could do a job for a premier league team, he’ll stand out in a good championship one.

Imo winks is a better player than Skipp, I’m not sure what Skipp is good at in all honesty.

Winks isn't excelling because he moved to the Championship, he excels because he's again playing in a possession based team, as part of 3 man midfield with defensive cover so he can just do the things that he's good at.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Think he did quite well when he came on to be honest.

Yep agree. I don’t rate him but he did fairly well when he came on in a difficult situation but again to me that just shows that of physical non technical role suits him and plays to his strengths, he should be playing for Forest not us.