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Player Watch: Serge Aurier

cider spurs

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My two cents for what it's worth...

When Walker decided he wanted to leave for pastures new, we, as a club most probably lost the best RB/WB in the league.

Spurs acquire the services of Aurier in order to fill the hole left by Walker, and to compete with Trippier.

Personally, I believe some are already too hung up comparing Aurier to Walker, the latter, as stated, most probably the best in his position league wise the past couple of seasons.

Of course, as fans we will scrutinize player performances, but for me, expecting Aurier to come in and be equal to Walker from the get go is, well, highly unlikely and somewhat unrealistic in thinking.

Yes Aurier has had a mixed bag thus far, but let's factor in all aspects, new league, new team, new training methods, new country.

Some good crosses, some bad. Good and poor tackles, good and bad positioning. Like I said, mixed bag.

But what irks me, all too often, some fans seem to focus on negatives alone, totally ignoring the good contributions from any given player.

We all, one would hope, wish our players to excel, and I'm all for constructive criticism, but add to that, ongoing realistic expectations and support.

Walker didn't arrive at Spurs as the best RB in the league, brainfarts, a word that sticks in my mind. Walker, with coaching and hardwork, evolved into the best.

Aurier has this opportunity, but let's not kid ourselves that he was going to roll up and be the best straight away. He'll have to get his head down, work hard and hopefully he'll get there.

I'll give him time and see how he fares, all the time remembering he's called Aurier not Walker. For that ship has sailed.

However...Can't defend the foul throws.
 

spursfan77

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Apart from a good spell a few months ago I would say I haven't been impressed with him on the whole and don't really get the hype he had before joining us.

Now I wouldn't be surprised if he's let go in the summer, but I also cant look beyond Poch's ability at improving fullbacks. He is amazing at it. Its definitely going to be interesting to see what happens because KWP isn't going to wait around beyond next season I wouldn't think. Especially as he has played well too.
 

cider spurs

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Apart from a good spell a few months ago I would say I haven't been impressed with him on the whole and don't really get the hype he had before joining us.

Now I wouldn't be surprised if he's let go in the summer, but I also cant look beyond Poch's ability at improving fullbacks. He is amazing at it. Its definitely going to be interesting to see what happens because KWP isn't going to wait around beyond next season I wouldn't think. Especially as he has played well too.


I would be very surprised if he was let go in the summer.

He's only started 14 prem games.
 
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Shadydan

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Jul 7, 2012
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Apart from a good spell a few months ago I would say I haven't been impressed with him on the whole and don't really get the hype he had before joining us.

Now I wouldn't be surprised if he's let go in the summer, but I also cant look beyond Poch's ability at improving fullbacks. He is amazing at it. Its definitely going to be interesting to see what happens because KWP isn't going to wait around beyond next season I wouldn't think. Especially as he has played well too.

No chance.
 

cozzo

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Jan 2, 2005
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It wasn't even a foul throw, he's just getting the Dele Alli treatment during televised games. Referees are stupid, and the crowd fall for it.
 

wirE

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My two cents for what it's worth...

When Walker decided he wanted to leave for pastures new, we, as a club most probably lost the best RB/WB in the league.

Spurs acquire the services of Aurier in order to fill the hole left by Walker, and to compete with Trippier.

Personally, I believe some are already too hung up comparing Aurier to Walker, the latter, as stated, most probably the best in his position league wise the past couple of seasons.

Of course, as fans we will scrutinize player performances, but for me, expecting Aurier to come in and be equal to Walker from the get go is, well, highly unlikely and somewhat unrealistic in thinking.

Yes Aurier has had a mixed bag thus far, but let's factor in all aspects, new league, new team, new training methods, new country.

Some good crosses, some bad. Good and poor tackles, good and bad positioning. Like I said, mixed bag.

But what irks me, all too often, some fans seem to focus on negatives alone, totally ignoring the good contributions from any given player.

We all, one would hope, wish our players to excel, and I'm all for constructive criticism, but add to that, ongoing realistic expectations and support.

Walker didn't arrive at Spurs as the best RB in the league, brainfarts, a word that sticks in my mind. Walker, with coaching and hardwork, evolved into the best.

Aurier has this opportunity, but let's not kid ourselves that he was going to roll up and be the best straight away. He'll have to get his head down, work hard and hopefully he'll get there.

I'll give him time and see how he fares, all the time remembering he's called Aurier not Walker. For that ship has sailed.

However...Can't defend the foul throws.

A good read imo. I think you're spot on regarding the comparison of him and walker and what us, the fans want of a player instantly.
 

Haddock

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I'd be more worried if Aurier showed signs of lacking technical ability or physical aspects of a good full back in the PL. But he doesn't as far as I'm concerned. Aurier is quite similar to Walker and Rose a few seasons back where their chief problem were decision making and not necessarily pure footballing skills. Contrary to belief those aspects can be improved, especially when you're getting accustomed to a new a team and a new league.
 

JB_Spurs

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His crossing leaves a lot to be desired to say the least but I thought he had a good game yesterday. Regarding the goal the one thing he should've done is shouted at Sanchez to drop and mark his man so he could mark Stanislas at the back post, but nothing major really
 

Spurslove

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Jul 6, 2012
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He moves in to mark the more dangerous and closer to goal player.

It’s what every full back in every team will do if your CBs have shifted across as ours did.

Literally does the right thing and gets slated :ROFLMAO: this place :banghead:

Having watched the footage again a few times, it appears I was too harsh on the lad and I apologise.

.
 

Spurslove

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Jul 6, 2012
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Went up for a header with the striker. This witch hunt on Aurier is embarrassing really

You are mistaking genuine criticism for witch hunting which is completely wrong. If you're suggesting we shouldn't say anything when players consistently under perform, all I can say is you're wrong 100%.
 

stevenurse

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Could get whiplash due to how often my mind changes about him. Saw him for PSG and thought he was incredible, signed him and showed promise, then totally regressed, but then did some good stuff, then the foul throws, then the last ditch tackles, then his crossing (bad), then his crossing (good), then more foul throws, then a goal.

He's the microcosm of a 50/50 player right now. I'm sure he'll come good but would far rather trust Trippier more at the moment
 

Khilari

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Jun 19, 2008
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He's very hot/cold and his end product is rubbish on too many occasions. But it's his first season. Walker had been playing for us for years. Aurier has spirit and through coaching can get better.

I've been disappointed with Trippier this season - he hasn't kicked on since last when he was immense. His crossing is excellent but on too many occasions this term he's been average and has made mistakes.

Aurier was woeful for big parts of the game vs Bournemouth and the likes of Son, Eriksen and Dele were getting frustrated - ironically he was involved in the best parts of our attacking play too. Rose also had a poor game and clearly looks less than sharp.

We ought to be stronger next term with hopefully Aurier, Sanchez (who's been excellent) and Moura all having had time to bed in.
 

stevenurse

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He's very hot/cold and his end product is rubbish on too many occasions. But it's his first season. Walker had been playing for us for years. Aurier has spirit and through coaching can get better.

I've been disappointed with Trippier this season - he hasn't kicked on since last when he was immense. His crossing is excellent but on too many occasions this term he's been average and has made mistakes.

Aurier was woeful for big parts of the game vs Bournemouth and the likes of Son, Eriksen and Dele were getting frustrated - ironically he was involved in the best parts of our attacking play too. Rose also had a poor game and clearly looks less than sharp.

We ought to be stronger next term with hopefully Aurier, Sanchez (who's been excellent) and Moura all having had time to bed in.

I think our expectations need to be managed regarding Trippier. I think he's reached his ceiling, and whilst that isnt world class, it's still more than capable of being at least rotation for a top side.
 

thekneaf

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I know where you're going here and Aurier has his defensive faults but I think blaming him solely for the goal maybe a bit harsh. Would like to see a wider angle but to me it looked like Aurier recognized the threat of Wilson who pulled in behind Sanchez and Wanyama (both got caught defending the same space in the box). Aurier and Wilson both miss the ball leaving Stanislas free. In that situation I would put it more on Sanchez and Wanyama for losing Bournemouth's striker in the box than I would Aurier for leaving his man to cover the higher percentage threat... but that's just my onions. Better communication from all 3 would have been ideal to avoid the situation entirely.

I don't even think that's opinion. That's pro-active defending. If Wilson scored people here would also be blaming him for not tucking in. Sanchez and Wanyama needed to do better. And I would like to see a wider shot to see if we had any of our right wing positioned players sprinting back to cover.
 

swarvsta

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There was a moment in the second half where it looked like Aurier was going to dive into a challenge in the corner of the penalty box.

He actually stayed on his feet and cleared the danger.

Progress in this area, perhaps?
Not sure if anyone else noticed it?
 

Japhet

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Aug 30, 2010
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My two cents for what it's worth...

When Walker decided he wanted to leave for pastures new, we, as a club most probably lost the best RB/WB in the league.

Spurs acquire the services of Aurier in order to fill the hole left by Walker, and to compete with Trippier.

Personally, I believe some are already too hung up comparing Aurier to Walker, the latter, as stated, most probably the best in his position league wise the past couple of seasons.

Of course, as fans we will scrutinize player performances, but for me, expecting Aurier to come in and be equal to Walker from the get go is, well, highly unlikely and somewhat unrealistic in thinking.

Yes Aurier has had a mixed bag thus far, but let's factor in all aspects, new league, new team, new training methods, new country.

Some good crosses, some bad. Good and poor tackles, good and bad positioning. Like I said, mixed bag.

But what irks me, all too often, some fans seem to focus on negatives alone, totally ignoring the good contributions from any given player.

We all, one would hope, wish our players to excel, and I'm all for constructive criticism, but add to that, ongoing realistic expectations and support.

Walker didn't arrive at Spurs as the best RB in the league, brainfarts, a word that sticks in my mind. Walker, with coaching and hardwork, evolved into the best.

Aurier has this opportunity, but let's not kid ourselves that he was going to roll up and be the best straight away. He'll have to get his head down, work hard and hopefully he'll get there.

I'll give him time and see how he fares, all the time remembering he's called Aurier not Walker. For that ship has sailed.

However...Can't defend the foul throws.


Aurier is continually being judged against Walker as he was when he left for City. Compare him to the Walker of a handful of season further back and you have a valid comparison when Walker was eminently capable of being quite good to hopeless from one game to the next.
 

rabbikeane

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I think our expectations need to be managed regarding Trippier. I think he's reached his ceiling, and whilst that isnt world class, it's still more than capable of being at least rotation for a top side.

Question is, can Aurier and Walker-Peters become better than that?
Unless we loan out KWP, I think we might have to make a decision in the summer.
 

chinaman

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Jul 19, 2003
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His crossing leaves a lot to be desired to say the least but I thought he had a good game yesterday. Regarding the goal the one thing he should've done is shouted at Sanchez to drop and mark his man so he could mark Stanislas at the back post, but nothing major really

Maybe he shouted in French and Sanchez didn't understand and did the opposite.:)
 
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