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Player Watch - Tanguy Ndombele

joey55

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I don't know anything about Skriniar, but Inter do have the best defensive record in Serie A, so he's part of a defence that is obviously doing something right. I actually think we are going to have buy a top class CB soon regardless. I just don't see Sanchez as ever being of the Jan/Toby standard we've become accustomed to. I liked the look of Gabriel at Lille, but it seems everyone is after him.
 

delawarespur

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Only inter player that I’d be interested in a swap is Lautaro, and he’s in a position where we already have a world class player. Only other name I’d be tempted by is Barella: same position, both young, both good. BUT tanguy is better and has better potential that barella. I’m reluctant to lose tanguy this summer though. If we can give sissoko, who’s mediocre at best, time to settle, we have to give tanguy another year at least. It’s be mad to get rid of him after 1 season of injuries, change in the coaching staff, and a massive break in the season. Keep him at all costs imo.
 

SargeantMeatCurtains

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If Ndombele is pushing this and the club have had enough, I’d much rather go back to Barcelona with our tails between our legs and take Semedo plus cash. There isn’t a single one of Inter’s trash I’d take otherwise.
 

seppo

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He should never have signed Pogba in the first place, he's poison. If Ndombele is acting like a lazy prick then Mourinho needs to get him out asap. What's the point of having someone who appears to be a good footballer but can't be arsed. Look at Ozil. You can't keep these players if you get a chance to sell them.
Mate there's a reason Pogba is widely regarded as being one of the best cms in football on his day (which is true, but not nearly consistently enough, obviously). There's also a reason why Zidane, for example, have been wanting him for 3 years now. The winners of the biggest honors today, i.e Zidane etc want him. Not the old guard who still favor intangibles such as 'fight' and every other similar platitude like José, who won the biggest medals 10 years back, when essentially the last generation of "soldier" footballers who thrived under managers such as Capello and Mourinho quit. Today's footballers are just different. Most of them need an arm around the shoulder & stuff like that, not public bollockings in the press every other week.
 
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I dont believe this Ndombele rumours, especially at 45m... just cant see it at all the guy has so much talent, skill and potential it ridiculous, only way i see if this could ever happen is if its been agreed and determined by all at spurs regarding his attitude and mentality and if the staff simply cannot see that being changed. He had his settling in period per se now and if things dont change then maybe yes next season.
 
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joey55

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Seeing as we haven't won a trophy in over a decade and haven't won a decent trophy since 1991, is Jose being his old self a bad thing?
 

bat-chain

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Because he has been that effective in the restart!

he got 45 minutes against Bournemouth, we looked better when he was on than when he wasn’t. The fact he didn’t play beyond that is on José not him, he could have praised him post match but chose to destroy him again.

Not his fault Mourinho can’t judge technical players unless someone else has developed them fully before he turns up. its his blind spot even if he is a brilliant tactical manager. There are numerous examples that have been mentioned.
 

arunspurs

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Isn’t Skriniar really highly rated? Why would Inter part with him?

Well, reason is Conte & his style of play.
Skriniar is good ball player & a very good defender. But he has been a bit exposed in Conte's high line back 3. So Conte wants to sell him and get someone who will suit his system better.
Skriniar is far better in a back 4 system with not much space behind ---> Suits Jose's setup perfectly.

IMO, getting Skriniar will be a coup and will make our back4 rock solid under Jose.
 

delawarespur

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If Ndombele is pushing this and the club have had enough, I’d much rather go back to Barcelona with our tails between our legs and take Semedo plus cash. There isn’t a single one of Inter’s trash I’d take otherwise.
Exactly this. If it’s true they offered semedo, coutinho, and umtiti, that package is soooooo much better than any combo of brozovic, skriniar, and fucking perisic. And I also believe that we should keep him at ALL COSTS unless he is forcing his way out, and it’s quite possible we’ll never know.
 

UncleBuck

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If he’s not happy being here then offload him. No point keeping a player who doesn’t want to be here as you won’t get 100% effort out of him and it’ll just piss off the rest of the squad.
If we can do some swapsies to plug holes then I’m all for it.
 

DiVaio

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Today it was info that Kante is their first priority, with Skriniar and Brozovic it could convince Chelsea to swap more than us
 

arunspurs

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Ndombele could be a great talent. But what good is talent without application. Everyone talks about how he is so good on ball - but off the ball he has been a embarrassment. He will thrive in a team where he is given no defensive responsibility & other 10 works for him , with him having a free role. If such a team have him, he could show his full potential .

Even this rumour, I am guessing its more because he wants to move. We dont know the truth yet.
IMO, we cannot afford Ndombele to go thro another season like last. Its prudent to cut the losses now, and give a replacement who will give a certain success for Jose
 

stormfly

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I feel we are being far too nice to Ndombele. He has all the talent in the world but can’t be arsed to work hard. He is our record signing are we really going to forgive his lack of effort because he’s so naturally talented?!? Players don’t want to carry a player anymore as the game has moved on. 100% effort is the minimum requirement before we see what they can offer the team. He has amazing potential but if he can’t be arsed to work hard I’m happy to cash in.
 
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Hawk_Spur

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Be mental to sell him, and even more so at a loss.

We probably outlayed 45m for Tanguy last summer, with the rest being add ons. No way Tanguy would have achieved some of those add ons last season.

Not overly fussed if we sell him as he's been rather unprofessional since he arrived.
 

hutchiniho

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he got 45 minutes against Bournemouth, we looked better when he was on than when he wasn’t. The fact he didn’t play beyond that is on José not him, he could have praised him post match but chose to destroy him again.

Not his fault Mourinho can’t judge technical players unless someone else has developed them fully before he turns up. its his blind spot even if he is a brilliant tactical manager. There are numerous examples that have been mentioned.

tbf JM will have seen a lot more of NDombele than we have.
He does have some big Salahesque misses and NDombele May turn out to be one of them, but TN has hardly been ripping up trees at any point this season from what we’ve seen, never mind day in day out on the training fields. Goodish for a half vs relegated Bournemouth!? 90minutes!? Maybe he’s just not suited to the Premiership.
I think I’m in the recover the money camp.
 

joey55

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I dont believe this Ndombele, especially at 45m... just cant see it at all the guy has so much talent, skill and potential it ridiculous, only way i see if this could ever happen is if its been agreed and determined by all at spurs is down to his attitude and mentality and the staff simply cannot see be changed. He had his settling in period per se now and if things dont change then maybe yes next season.

I think 45m sounds about right. He cost 55m and signed a 5 year deal. So in accounting terms, 45m balances the books and we haven't lost money. It sounds strange, but we've only lost money if we buy him for 55 and sell him for 45 the next day. But the way asset depreciation works, we effectively have paid for the year we've used him for and will get compensated for the remaining 4 years of is contract, that we wont have used him for. Anything over 44 mill is actually more than his value in our accounts.
 
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