Player watch: Toby Alderweireld

[rocklink]

So you're saying that you can't win anything with kids?

No you cant

 

[nailsy]

No you cant

OK. Thanks Alan.

 

[Hengy1]

The guy played the wrong game. He went back on his word. You don’t do that with Poch. Europe can have him. His advisors been trying to come back to the table, but the horse has bolted

It’s a bit silly if they are willing to negotiate and we don’t try.

There’s no chance we’d be able to replace with a player of his quality.

 

[jonathanhotspur]

The guy played the wrong game. He went back on his word. You don’t do that with Poch. Europe can have him. His advisors been trying to come back to the table, but the horse has bolted

Good. He can go fuck himself.

 

[DCSPUR]

The guy played the wrong game. He went back on his word. You don’t do that with Poch. Europe can have him. His advisors been trying to come back to the table, but the horse has bolted

this is absolutely fascinating and dove tails a little with this comment that Gary Neville (who loves Poch it seems) made that Poch would have expected loyalty.

This is really Fergie like.....encouraging

 

[BringBack_leGin]

It’s a bit silly if they are willing to negotiate and we don’t try.

There’s no chance we’d be able to replace with a player of his quality.

Perhaps not, but if we offered him, say, £120k when he was first choice, and since his injury Sanchez has shown we don’t need him, why would we offer him even that now? Perhaps Sanchez emergence has shown that when all is factored in, we’d be better off with a cheaper option than Toby for back up centre back.

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

It’s a bit silly if they are willing to negotiate and we don’t try.

There’s no chance we’d be able to replace with a player of his quality.

It might be that we have already budgeted his sale into the summer transfer budget. Sanchez was his replacement last summer, it worked out well, so its not a pressing need right now.

 

[Lou3000]

2016 Player of the Season. One of the best defenders in the Prem. Tried to play hardball on getting a contract that he knew was out of line with the wage structure. Gone.

I hate to see him go, but it's the right choice. I think with the stadium and being on the verge of three seasons of CL football we CAN play the game of ever increasing spending, but I don't think that's the kind of club we want.

Or maybe it is. I don't know. I really liked Toby. Honestly thought he had a chance to be one of the best defenders we've ever had.

 

[Shadydan]

It’s a bit silly if they are willing to negotiate and we don’t try.

There’s no chance we’d be able to replace with a player of his quality.

We'd look pretty stupid by going back on ourselves and re-negotiating don't you think?

I'm 100% behind Poch on this, don't fuck with the club, and it serves as a lesson to anyone else who thinks they can hold the club to ransom.

 

[SEANSPURS1975]

That’s that then. A real shame it’s come to this. Have to start getting used to thinking that Toby’s no longer a Tottenham player?

 

[Hengy1]

It might be that we have already budgeted his sale into the summer transfer budget. Sanchez was his replacement last summer, it worked out well, so its not a pressing need right now.

I disagree that Sanchez was his replacement. He was to compliment the CBs so Dier didn’t have to drop back.

 

[Hengy1]

We'd look pretty stupid by going back on ourselves and re-negotiating don't you think?

I'm 100% behind Poch on this, don't fuck with the club, and it serves as a lesson to anyone else who thinks they can hold the club to ransom.

No I don’t. It’s not like poch hasn’t shown his stance but if they come back to the table then imo it shows the clubs in charge.

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

I disagree that Sanchez was his replacement. He was to compliment the CBs so Dier didn’t have to drop back.

I don't think we spent £40M on a player to "compliment" the CBs. I'd say it was pretty clear we were expecting Sanchez to be a starter soon - probably not this season, but almost certainly by next season.

 

[Univarn]

The guy played the wrong game. He went back on his word. You don’t do that with Poch. Europe can have him. His advisors been trying to come back to the table, but the horse has bolted

While I agree I think like the Walker sale it will end up fine for both of us. He'll get a big money move to some major team with a large contract to retire on and we'll get some decent, though probably not ideal (but Levy gonna Levy) amount for him towards our summer transfer budget. I'll be annoyed the entire time the media speculates about him being the catalyst to us selling everyone which we all know is BS but I think it's fine. Just ready to get it over with.

 

[Hengy1]

I don't think we spent £40M on a player to "compliment" the CBs. I'd say it was pretty clear we were expecting Sanchez to be a starter soon - probably not this season, but almost certainly by next season.

Again disagree. We wanted to play a back 3 and Dier made it clear he wanted to play midfield.

Therefore we needed another CB anyway. If Toby goes I’m pretty sure then we’ll replace him

 

[marion52]

I thought it was his agent who wanted more?
If Toby is keen to stay we should consider as he’s a great player, shouldn’t be throwing baby out with the bath water so to speak. As @Hengy1 says if it’s them coming back shows the club are right

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

If Toby goes I’m pretty sure then we’ll replace him

On this we agree - but I don't think it will be a "starter" level replacement. It will be a back-up CB - my ideal signing is de Ligt.

 

[mattyspurs]

I thought it was his agent who wanted more?
If Toby is keen to stay we should consider as he’s a great player, shouldn’t be throwing baby out with the bath water so to speak. As @Hengy1 says if it’s them coming back shows the club are right

The agent works for Toby.

If they got Poch to agree something, which he had to convince Levy was the right thing to do, then they shake hands on it, and he comes back wanting more??

I would do exactly the same thing as Poch. They can't come back to the table now expecting us to renegotiate. It's not how business works.

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

I thought it was his agent who wanted more?
If Toby is keen to stay we should consider as he’s a great player, shouldn’t be throwing baby out with the bath water so to speak. As @Hengy1 says if it’s them coming back shows the club are right

Agent does what the player wants. If Agent screwed up here - then Toby fires agent, and we start from scratch.

I think the hang-up has been the release clause - which shows a lack of commitment from Toby. Hard to rely on a player who is already looking for a way out.

 

[Hengy1]

On this we agree - but I don't think it will be a "starter" level replacement. It will be a back-up CB - my ideal signing is de Ligt.

It’ll definitely be a “starter” level as that’s what Sanchez was last season.