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Race for the Top 4 - 2018/19

Where will we finish in the league ?


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Jaddas

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Aug 15, 2008
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Wasn't sure where to post this but would thought I'd put it in here and injury thread with regards to our injury situation.

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/fo...blems-continue-to-hurt-mauricio-a4046566.html

Interesting read, excerpts below:

Alli was forced out of Sunday’s win at Craven Cottage, but the origins of his injury can be traced back to the fly-infested Volgograd Arena on June 18. The midfielder suffered a thigh strain in England’s World Cup opener against Tunisia and, although he sat out the two remaining group games, he returned two weeks later for the second-round match against Colombia.

He has now suffered three hamstring strains since September, having never previously had more than one injury per season since turning professional. By the start of March, he will likely have missed 20 games.

While there has been no suggestion that England mismanaged the 22-year-old, his workload in Russia has surely been a factor in a stop-start season — and he is not the only one at Spurs.

Of the club’s 12 World Cup representatives, 10 have suffered serious injuries this term, with Hugo Lloris, Davinson Sanchez, Jan Vertonghen, Kieran Trippier, Danny Rose, Eric Dier, Christian Eriksen, Mousa Dembele and Kane the others.

Only Toby Alderweireld and Son have avoided a spell on the sidelines, although the South Korean confessed to being exhausted after returning from the Asian Games in August. In short, no European club’s season has been more disrupted by the World Cup.


Poch is a miracle worker, and in my opinion, the "best pound for pound" manager in the division. Making top 4 with the injuries, no players bought for 12 months, would possibly be his most notable achievement with the club thus far.
 

shelfboy68

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Jun 14, 2008
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Wasn't sure where to post this but would thought I'd put it in here and injury thread with regards to our injury situation.

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/fo...blems-continue-to-hurt-mauricio-a4046566.html

Interesting read, excerpts below:

Alli was forced out of Sunday’s win at Craven Cottage, but the origins of his injury can be traced back to the fly-infested Volgograd Arena on June 18. The midfielder suffered a thigh strain in England’s World Cup opener against Tunisia and, although he sat out the two remaining group games, he returned two weeks later for the second-round match against Colombia.

He has now suffered three hamstring strains since September, having never previously had more than one injury per season since turning professional. By the start of March, he will likely have missed 20 games.

While there has been no suggestion that England mismanaged the 22-year-old, his workload in Russia has surely been a factor in a stop-start season — and he is not the only one at Spurs.

Of the club’s 12 World Cup representatives, 10 have suffered serious injuries this term, with Hugo Lloris, Davinson Sanchez, Jan Vertonghen, Kieran Trippier, Danny Rose, Eric Dier, Christian Eriksen, Mousa Dembele and Kane the others.

Only Toby Alderweireld and Son have avoided a spell on the sidelines, although the South Korean confessed to being exhausted after returning from the Asian Games in August. In short, no European club’s season has been more disrupted by the World Cup.


Poch is a miracle worker, and in my opinion, the "best pound for pound" manager in the division. Making top 4 with the injuries, no players bought for 12 months, would possibly be his most notable achievement with the club thus far.
Can't deny the wonderful job he has done under difficult circumstances from no recruitment through to this horrendous injury list just hope the man stays and eventually gets supported.
 

Lighty64

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Aug 24, 2010
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Wasn't sure where to post this but would thought I'd put it in here and injury thread with regards to our injury situation.

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/fo...blems-continue-to-hurt-mauricio-a4046566.html

Interesting read, excerpts below:

Alli was forced out of Sunday’s win at Craven Cottage, but the origins of his injury can be traced back to the fly-infested Volgograd Arena on June 18. The midfielder suffered a thigh strain in England’s World Cup opener against Tunisia and, although he sat out the two remaining group games, he returned two weeks later for the second-round match against Colombia.

He has now suffered three hamstring strains since September, having never previously had more than one injury per season since turning professional. By the start of March, he will likely have missed 20 games.

While there has been no suggestion that England mismanaged the 22-year-old, his workload in Russia has surely been a factor in a stop-start season — and he is not the only one at Spurs.

Of the club’s 12 World Cup representatives, 10 have suffered serious injuries this term, with Hugo Lloris, Davinson Sanchez, Jan Vertonghen, Kieran Trippier, Danny Rose, Eric Dier, Christian Eriksen, Mousa Dembele and Kane the others.

Only Toby Alderweireld and Son have avoided a spell on the sidelines, although the South Korean confessed to being exhausted after returning from the Asian Games in August. In short, no European club’s season has been more disrupted by the World Cup.


Poch is a miracle worker, and in my opinion, the "best pound for pound" manager in the division. Making top 4 with the injuries, no players bought for 12 months, would possibly be his most notable achievement with the club thus far.

yet Liverpool spent all that money, hardly any played in the WC, have only had a few injuries, and have gone out of both domestic cups at the 1st hurdle (only just squeezed through the group stages), and they are just 2 draws away from City taking them over, providing City win those games and match the rest.
 

coys200

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May 22, 2017
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Disappointing but could help with top 4. In next 4 PL we have the 3 home and Burnley A. They will have to go to city and then miss a game carabo weekend. If we can win next 4 could have a 10 pt gap on them after carabo weekend.

Also before we play them in PL they will have 7 back to back games and we will have 5 if we beat Palace. And our trip to the bridge will come the midweek after the final where hopefully city smack them.
 
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HotTotty

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Mar 17, 2004
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't we staring down the barrel of a repeat of the nightmare that played out in 2012 with the DiMateo's Chelsea? i.e....


We finish 4th

Man U finish outside the top 4 and win the Champions league

= Man U take the final Champs lge spot off us.


I know it seems unlikely, but come on, if there's a chance of it happening it could only happen to us.. will start getting more and more worried the further utd progress.. happy if we finish 3rd and Chelsea lose out in 4th.. that would be sweet karma!!!!
 

theShiznit

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Jul 26, 2004
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't we staring down the barrel of a repeat of the nightmare that played out in 2012 with the DiMateo's Chelsea? i.e....


We finish 4th

Man U finish outside the top 4 and win the Champions league

= Man U take the final Champs lge spot off us.


I know it seems unlikely, but come on, if there's a chance of it happening it could only happen to us.. will start getting more and more worried the further utd progress.. happy if we finish 3rd and Chelsea lose out in 4th.. that would be sweet karma!!!!
I believe they changed that the season after it happened to us.

Not that i see United getting anywhere close.
 

HotTotty

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Mar 17, 2004
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Think you might be right actually.. or was it the other way round, didn't Everton gain a place back in 2004/5 when Liverpool won it and finished 5th.. so England had 5 qualifiers.. then they changed it so that it couldn't happen in future.. so confused.

I remember it was so annoying that Everton qualified under the same scenario as us.. but we didn't in 2012.
 
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HotTotty

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Mar 17, 2004
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So it's all 5 go in right? at least confirm it.... then this thread can be disposed of please :whistle:
 

OPModric

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May 10, 2010
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if Arsenal also finish outside top4 and win EL I think the doomsday scenario can happen?
 

HotTotty

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Mar 17, 2004
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Good point so are we to assume that if - since rule changes...

Arsenal outside top 4 but win Europa League +
Man Utd outside top 4 but win Champions League

= 6 teams in CL next season????
 

ardiles

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Nov 24, 2006
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if Arsenal also finish outside top4 and win EL I think the doomsday scenario can happen?

Yes. If the CL & EL are both won by English clubs and if both finish below top four in the PL, then the 4th placed PL club plays in the EL the following season.
 

ardiles

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Nov 24, 2006
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Good point so are we to assume that if - since rule changes...

Arsenal outside top 4 but win Europa League +
Man Utd outside top 4 but win Champions League

= 6 teams in CL next season????

No. Each country can only have a max of 5 clubs in the CL.
 

HotTotty

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Mar 17, 2004
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Yes. If the CL & EL are both won by English clubs and if both finish below top four in the PL, then the 4th placed PL club plays in the EL the following season.
Oh well there you have it then... put your money on Arsenal knocking us out in this scenario.. hedge your bets now!!!
 

SE Spurs

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Aug 12, 2018
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Trust me, if Utds form improved to the extent of winning the CL. They'd have made the top 4 at the end of the season.
 

ardiles

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Nov 24, 2006
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Oh well there you have it then... put your money on Arsenal knocking us out in this scenario.. hedge your bets now!!!

I won’t be so pessimistic just yet. If we end up in the top 3 at season end, then we wouldn’t have to worry about this.

If we end up in fourth, then If either Arsenal or United do not win in Europe, we’re safe too. United may have improved under OGS, but I doubt they will go all the way in the CL.

As Shady says, we don’t really have to think about this (yet). Worry when there is something to worry about but this isn’t the time.
 
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