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Ramos' anti-tactics

Locotoro

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Sep 2, 2004
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I think the opposite is true with Ramos.. Benitez is an anti-tactican. Jose was. Allerdyce is as is Megson et al.....Wenger, Ferguson and Ramos attempt to impose thier will on the other team. Ramos has shown that his consistent tactics and approach are effective in all departments and we happen to upset tactic of others by simply playing well with the ball and working hard off it. If Ramos adhered to the anti-tactic philosophy we would have seen a move away from 442 in a few of the games we've played. The fact we still played 442 against Chelsea's 451/433 in the final is the best example of how Ramos doesn't set up an anti-tactic.

I think most of the other posters have explained the logic behind my post. But incidently, we didnt play 442 the entire match:
We started with a 4-4-2.
Hudd in and Chimbo out switched us to 3-1-4-2 to counter the Chelsea 3 in the middle and allow Lennon license to get at belletti.
Then malbranque off, Tainio in. changed it to a 4-4-2 with TT at left back.
Finally Keano came off for Kaboul to counter the aerial threat in a 5-3-2 with Lennon up top
 

phil

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Oct 25, 2004
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interesting analogy Sloth :) another analogy is the 'soft return' in tennis - I don't follow tennis any longer but 'in my day' one tactic to try against Rod laver's power game was to try and hit the ball softly to slow things down - so in a way we trying to damp that game down -

of course very little worked against Laver who, taking into account that tennis like all sports has moved on, was probably the best of all time - but at least it was something to try

we tried and famously succeeded v CFC - but they ain't no Rod Lavers that's for sure :)

A better tennis analogy is the example of Arthur Ashe overcoming hot favourite Jimmy Connors in the Wimbledon final. Connors game was based on power and pace. Ashe denied Connors the pace and width he required by returning the ball 'softly' down the centre of the court. Without the pace and width, Connors became frustrated and had to change his game. Ashe won easily.
 

Chaplain

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I think when Hudd came on and Chimbo off Malbranque switched to LB and Lennon to LM with Hudd as pocket-RM...I saw no other position where Malbranque played, anyway, and when he went off Tainio slotted directly into the LB position.
 

t7ny

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I am a football manager of sorts, I think anti-tactics are a aprt of managing these days but it goes as part of the package.
The important thing is to stop your opposition playing but sometimes you have to find the right balance otherwise you start to set up in a way that stops your opponent but pulls your play to pieces as a result.

The trick of being a good manager is being able to find that balance, tipping the scales as and when needed between anti-tactics and team tactics to have a desired effect at crucial times in the game.

Ramos is very good at this, I like him and love how bold he is. He is right of course in being bold because it's his neck on the line and he must stand by his decisions as a manager, sp why not do what your gut tells you!

He is an excellent manager who has surrounded himself with experts in fitness, nutrition etc... Very Mourinho like if you will.
 
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