Rating vs Liverpool

[Jamturk]

Jamie and Niall summed the game up. Both said we needed agricultural balls. We should have put Kane on and gone long ball. The alarm bells were ringing for me when I saw only 1 striker on the pitch and one on the bench.
The result stinks but what stinks more is MoPo getting selection and tactics wrong and the complete lack of confidence.
Ade seemed like he was acting in a football film and Lamela was like a spoilt child.
Dier's inexperience cost us the game but I don't like the way Kaboul and Verts hang him out to dry.
I think MoPo needs to really analyse this performance. He got it wrong.

Interesting, I think there were some that expressed concerns that Poch lacks a plan B, an inability to adapt to game circumstances. I think this reared its head today, We couldn't get our full backs up the field so we really lacked width. When he brought Townsend on I thought he would put him on the left.

But alas no.

 

[stemark44]

Just got back

The crowd was shocking, I always sit shelf side but this time sat lower tier and only a couple of us actually supported the team. Its easy to see why the teams heads go down the place turns in to morgue after the second goal went in. Really pissed me off that a season ticket holder only spent 40mins of the whole game actually watching the football.

Poochie the dawg got it wrong today, Rodgers made it 41212 to stop us playing in the middle and we had no answer, he also got pressing high but they were a bunch of dirty basterds. We couldn't handle Sturridge and Balotelli pushing up on our CB's and Lloris had to kick out way too much. We needed a CM on and go 433 imo. Or stop the interchanging and push up and wide Lamela and Chadli

We never attacked their fullbacks who were the weak points defensively. Not to mention we had no option b striker wise(though not Poch's fault)

Bringing on townsend, was shocking as well, since he fitness is shit and the guy hasn't got any confidence. As soon as he got on the pitch I feared the worst. Didn't help he got abuse before he touched the ball. I stuck up for him alot but he has to go to get his confidence back. Its a shame.

This isn't an anti Poch post, but just though he needed to change it after the team couldn't fully apply the philosophy

Ade was annoying btw, he had a off day and it wasn't a game for Kane imo

Wow,thats just shocking.
You can see that he is nowhere near match fitness,he is trying too hard and is looking way off his normal speed.
I really don't know how a youngster coming through our ranks can be treated so poorly.

 

[striebs]

You do know the reason why Schneiderlin isn't coming is that the replacement Southampton brought in has left after 3 weeks (announced Frday) having a replacement for MS won't sell now ?

If our boss wants him then it looks like we are better doing without any new recruit and waiting till January .

 

[beats1]

Wow,thats just shocking.
You can see that he is nowhere near match fitness,he is trying too hard and is looking way off his normal speed.
I really don't know how a youngster coming through our ranks can be treated so poorly.

He was right in front of me when he made the mistake and was getting abuse through the whole match. I felt sorry for him. He needs to go, its hard to change the opinion of a WHL crowd.

 

[stemark44]

He was right in front of me when he made the mistake and was getting abuse through the whole match. I felt sorry for him. He needs to go, its hard to change the opinion of a WHL crowd.

Yeah sorry to say it but I agree,if it was me......... I would be away to Southampton in the morning.
Couldn't play for wankers like that.

 

[Jimbolio]

Dembele was good when he came on so why is he getting low ratings?

he's a decent player and holds the ball up well but I never feel he's going to play a pass which splits the defence or have much effect going forward.

 

[striebs]

We have plenty of potential in Lamela and Eriksen but not enough finished article .

Walker and Lennon are the finished article and till we get them back I reckon it's going to remain one way traffic against the quality sides .

When we get Walker back Dier who looks like a great buy can move to the centre .

I think we missed Siggy badly today . Perhaps he reckoned he would get more pitch time elsewhere .

Every time the club gets anywhere it fails to push on .

It's hardly surprising that we are where we are after taking so long to replace Berbatov with Ade and then spunking the Bale money on mainly mediocrity .

It's almost as if Levy doesn't want success on the pitch . Perhaps he is scared that the finances couldn't survive it .

 

[ClintEastwould]

There seems to be a collective mentality within this group of players that just invites defeat against superior opposition. From the first few minutes on I could already tell they were well aware that Liverpool were the better side and we're just waiting to get beaten. They are better, but they've had Brenton for 2 seasons now playing progressive football while we've had AVB rip the soul out of us.

That is the main issue in my opinion. Pochetinno's toughest task is getting these players to believe that they can be better than the sum of their parts. As we've seen last season, they are a talented bunch and will more than likely defeat an inferior opponent, it's against the top sides they look like rolling over.

-Our players take way too many touches and cannot player when pressed high. We need to work on our one touch passing.

On the flip side, we also pressed well collectively at times, in the first half at least.

Lloris - 5 clearance and kicking suspect at best today. Few decent stops

Dier - 5 shouldn't tug any one in the box, schoolboy error. Otherwise okay but not a RB

Kaboul - 2 shocking. I have seen barely a single positive since his injury. Poor decision making, terrible passing, dispossessed, lacksadaisical just overall a complete liability. Sorry younes you are finished

Vertonghen - 5 couldn't see any glaring mistakes but still part of a suspect defense

Rose - 5 as above.

Capoue - 4 to up the tempo and is too easily marked out of the game when pressed upon

Bentaleb - 5 still not ready for the big games. Needs to get 'stuck in'

Lamela - 4 tried hard. Gave it away so many times though. He should focus on passing and movement, he dribbled into a culder sack too often.

Eriksen - 4 not a big game player yet. Avoids any sort of physical contact and doesn't impose himself. An extra yard of pace would help immensely.

Chadli - 5 probably should've scored but overall not a terrible match

Adebayor - 6 decent endeavor and fight. Tried a bunch and was very frustrated with him on many occasions where he let himself get tackled, but he was pretty much our only threat really.

 

[RichieS]

Lloris - 5. Not a lot he could have done about any of the goals. Kicking was a bit ropey and nearly gifted Balotelli a debut goal, although did well to recover that particular situation.

Dier - 4. Not very good. Looked a bit overawed but then he is young and playing out of position.

Kaboul - 3. As Dier, without the second sentence.

Vertonghen - 5. Didn't really notice him.

Rose - 6. Ok, got forward well in the first half.

Capoue - 8. MoM for me. Beasted around and kept us ticking over with a good mixture of safe and creative passing.

Bentaleb - 4. Anonymous.

Lamela - 7. Kept going until the end. Did well not to kick someone in anger as every single time he got the ball all they tried to do was foul him.

Eriksen - 4. Not at the races at all today. Set piece delivery poor. One nice through ball.

Chadli - 6. Similar to Lamela, but should have done better with his chance.

Adebayor - 4. Good first half, anonymous second. Should have done better with the chances he had.

 

[ultimateloner]

I'm most disappointed with out failure to create a single chance in the final third of the game when Liverpool sat back and invites us to pressure them.

However some perspective is needed and some useful information we can draw from this game.

We had 2 clear chances so we weren't completely inept against a good team. 2 out of 3 goals were individual errors so not a sign of team weakness.

Kaboul is not the same as before so the buy of Fazio addresses this. Poch knows what he is doing and the buying is aligned with team needs. That is reassuring.

Townsend tries but ultimately fails in an embarrassing manner. Didn't produce much of note. Someone we can sell if the right offer comes in.

Diet is a solid player and his last games aren't coincidences.

Lamela doesn't drift out of games the way eriksen does and that's a big bonus.

Vert isn't as good as we think he is and rose isn't as bad as I think he was.

 

[Larryjanta]

Think Bentaleb getting panned for no good reason. Played that ball into Ade that should have been buried. Played the ball quickly as well.

I don't get the hype around Capoue. He gets the ball and then has to look around to decide where to pass it and then is so worried about losing it, plays it slow and safe.

I seem to be in the minority but Bentaleb would start ahead of Capoue for me, he keeps us ticking whereas Capoue is a bottleneck.

 

[Sp3akerboxxx]

Think Bentaleb getting panned for no good reason. Played that ball into Ade that should have been buried. Played the ball quickly as well.

I don't get the hype around Capoue. He gets the ball and then has to look around to decide where to pass it and then is so worried about losing it, plays it slow and safe.

I seem to be in the minority but Bentaleb would start ahead of Capoue for me, he keeps us ticking whereas Capoue is a bottleneck.

Capoue and Bentaleb are not like for like.

 

[Larryjanta]

Capoue and Bentaleb are not like for like.

Oh, I agree. But I don't get why one is pilloried and the vaunted when they were both shit.

I really don't get Capoue, I worried I'm one of those morons who couldn't see what Carrick brought to the team. I fucking hated those guys.

 

[Black]

Oh, I agree. But I don't get why one is pilloried and the vaunted when they were both shit.
So fans hate playe
I really don't get Capoue, I worried I'm one of those morons who couldn't see what Carrick brought to the team. I fucking hated those guys.

Bentaleb gets hate because he's connect to sherwood and hes come through ranks we know full well spurs fans hate players who come through the ranks, bentaleb plays too much deep anyway wasting his talent

 

[striebs]

Looks like a repeat of last year except Liverpool's finishing wasn't as good this time around .

 

[Sp3akerboxxx]

Looks like a repeat of last year except Liverpool's finishing wasn't as good this time around .

Short memory.

 

[stemark44]

Oh, I agree. But I don't get why one is pilloried and the vaunted when they were both shit.

I really don't get Capoue, I worried I'm one of those morons who couldn't see what Carrick brought to the team. I fucking hated those guys.

For me Capoue was the biggest liability on the pitch today,plays pretty good when he is allowed to stroll around at his leisure but once the pressure is on...........he goes AWOL.
Need an upgrade against the better teams and I really hope the Montpellier guy is the answer............If we actually sign him but would really prefer Schneiderlin.

 

[Japhet]

Think Bentaleb getting panned for no good reason. Played that ball into Ade that should have been buried. Played the ball quickly as well.

I don't get the hype around Capoue. He gets the ball and then has to look around to decide where to pass it and then is so worried about losing it, plays it slow and safe.

I seem to be in the minority but Bentaleb would start ahead of Capoue for me, he keeps us ticking whereas Capoue is a bottleneck.

Trouble is we did not play as a team which makes it impossible for individuals to shine. Capoue couldn't pick quick passes because there wasn't enough movement ahead of him. That makes him look bad. Bentaleb looks like he plays quicker but the vast majority of what he does isn't productive. We were also put under pressure with Lamela, Eriksen and Adebayor constantly giving the ball away.

 

[Larryjanta]

Trouble is we did not play as a team which makes it impossible for individuals to shine. Capoue couldn't pick quick passes because there wasn't enough movement ahead of him. That makes him look bad. Bentaleb looks like he plays quicker but the vast majority of what he does isn't productive. We were also put under pressure with Lamela, Eriksen and Adebayor constantly giving the ball away.

I do agree somewhat with your first point about lack of movement but, surely, it applies to Bentaleb as well, which, really, is my point. Anyway, I'm done defending Bentaleb, he's a quality player that managers will keep picking and will have an exceptional career I don't know why I feel the need to defend him so much of an Internet forum!

 

[markdadude]

Hah, Brad Friedel was excellent in his analysis on MOTD. And informative re. pochetino