Ratings vs Internazionale

[playboypaul]

ridiculous rating playboypaul

Which one?

 

[double0]

He didn't play up front on his own, we played 4-4-2.

did you think Defoe contributed because any time the ball was passed to him he seemed not able to control the ball, when he tried to pass to a man in white it end up with a milan player...Defoe unfortunatley was a passenger.

 

[CJMurray]

Freidel: 5 Time to hang up the gloves I'm afraid. Way to immobile.

Walker: 5 Not enough composure. Needless fouls.

Gallas: 3 It seems one game a month is too much for him now. Absolutely appalling.

Vertonghen: 6 Not his best performance but wasn't shit like most of the others.

Naughton: 2 Shit. Shit shit shit shit shit shit shit. Worst positional sense I have ever seen in a defender. We played a high line and he was still ten yards further up the pitch then the other defenders most of the time. He did so many bad things I couldn't possibly type them all down.

Parker: 4 Headless chicken springs to mind. Pirouette. Hold on to ball for faaaarrrrr too long. Pass behind team mate. Take 100 touches to get ball under control. Take another 100 touches to run five yards with the ball.

Livermore: 3 What did he actually do?

Sigurdsson: 6 Wasn't shit but its hard to play well when you have Ade and Defoe in front of you either running away or not moving at all and Livermore and Parker beside you.

Dembele: 7 Done his best to carry the sorry bunch of shit he was playing with and provided the goal for Ade.

Defoe: 1 Did not a single thing.

Ade: 1 And that is for scoring. I noticed in the second half of half time after they had scored and we where hanging on for dear life, someone cleared the ball out from defence and when the camera panned across to the defender picking the ball up to start another attack, Ade was about 15/20 yards off side sill walking back. That little thing there sums him up. Doesn't try at all. Will be glad to se the back of him. Useless. Lazy. Good for nothing shit head. I think people on here are suffering last season Ade love and seeing things that aren't actually happening. He has been dog shit all season, no excuses anymore.

Giving Adebayor a mark equal to Defoe from last night is bad enough, but to give him a 1/10 is just laughable.

Adebayor can be accused of being many things this season, he's been a useless toss-pot for the majority of it, but last night he was none of those. He clearly wasn't lazy. He worked hard on and off the ball, certainly far harder then he has in the majority of his games this season and he was looking to make things happen. Yes, he missed a decent chance before half-time, but guess what? That was due to him chasing after the defender and capitalising on a sloppy touch. Don't forget the lung busting run he made, driving into the box only to be left with no-one to pick out.

Its almost as if people only want to see the bad in Ade. There were even people slagging him off and calling him a lazy prick for not celebrating his goal. Fuck me.

He was probably our 2nd or 3rd best player yesterday behind Dembele and maybe Parker, but oh no, that doesn't fit in with the 'Ade is a fucking lazy ****' view of him nowadays.

I'm embarrassed by our fan base sometimes.

 

[playboypaul]

I'm calling it as I saw it.

That's all.

 

[Mr Pink]

Apart from being shit that was also an interesting match. It illustrates, for me, the fine lines between having a winning and a losing team. I think AVB got it wrong, though perhaps for rational reasons. I think he set us out to score a goal. Get a goal and mentally, for the Inter players, the tie's over.

First of all the 442, he's deployed it seven times in the PL and it's got him 14 points (2 point per game), the formation can work, but the personnel have to be right, in the league we generally had Lennon and Bale on the flanks, with Sandro and Dembele in the centre. The energy and off the ball work of Sandro and Dembele just about compensate for not having that extra man in CM, and with speedsters on the wing the opposition cannot easily squeeze the game and that means more space for our two strikers to take advantage of. Also 442 requires lots of energy, and so it's probably more effective earlier in the season. Against a quality side like Inter, with a right-footed left-back, no speed, and no natural wingers, away from home, it was a licence for Inter to squeeze up on us, and to occupy the areas they knew we were going to naturally gravitate towards. Add to that a striker, in Adebayor, shorn of confidence, and in Defoe, just plain fucking lazy, not to mention stupid, and we were asking for trouble. Then couple the relatively undynamic Livermore with Parker and ask the latter to make the runs which carry the ball past the first man, while the former mops up when things break down, and things are really starting to get sticky. Finally, to cap it all, to play a deep-lying keeper behind a high-line, with an ageing CB and a rookie LB... well, put all of that together and you end up with exactly what we got.

In short it was the wrong team selection, played in the wrong positions, and in the wrong formation. On the plus side I think and hope AVB will have learnt more about his team and his options from that 120 minutes, than he will from the entire unbeaten run we enjoyed this season.

Very well reasoned that Sloth. I agree and if Lennon happens to be out I hope he isn't tempted to go the same against Fulham even with it being at home and with Ekotto likely to be back.

 

[Gedson100]

By my reckoning that team was 5/6 players short of our strongest 11, so there's hope there.

Lloris > Friedel
Assou-Ekotto>Naughton
Dawson or Kaboul>Gallas
Lennon>Dembele (positionally)
Dembele>Livermore
Sandro>Parker
Bale>Defoe

Only Sandro on that list is long term unavailable, so let's hope those that played enjoyed themselves, got some experience, and never get near the team for an important match ever again. (half serious)

 

[playboypaul]

OK, I am going to watch the match all over again and watch Ade especially. I will come back and if I rated him harshly, I will admit it and amend my ratings accordingly.

 

[OmarsComing]

Ade played up there on his own for 120 minutes as Defoe might as well been a cardboard cutout. I notched he was getting fouled regularly by thei defenders but wasn't get any freekicks. Then there was the racists abuse he had to suffer the entire match and having no decent support play by he team mates.

Was he not good enough - probably

Same rating as Derat - definitely not imo

 

[beats1]

Ade played up there on his own for 120 minutes as Defoe might as well been a cardboard cutout. I notched he was getting fouled regularly by thei defenders but wasn't get any freekicks. Then there was the racists abuse he had to suffer the entire match and having no decent support play by he team mates.

Was he not good enough - probably

Same rating as Derat - definitely not imo

Also worth noting that Ade wasnt fit enough to make the bench at Liverpool but he played more mins than defoe and probably more than AVB was expecting to give had Defoe been missing

 

[Damian99]

Both are about as much use as a chocolate fire guard, i seriously hope we start off next season and don't have to talk about either of them imo.