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MOTM

  • Lloris

    Votes: 122 40.8%
  • Walker

    Votes: 12 4.0%
  • Toby

    Votes: 16 5.4%
  • Wimmer

    Votes: 2 0.7%
  • Rose

    Votes: 23 7.7%
  • Dier

    Votes: 2 0.7%
  • Dembele

    Votes: 80 26.8%
  • Eriksen

    Votes: 21 7.0%
  • Alli

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Son

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Kane

    Votes: 21 7.0%
  • Chadli

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Mason

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    299

JUSTINSIGNAL

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which is what people said about Lamela when he first joined.

..and Modric for that matter.

It's amazing isn't it.

When will fans learn not to write players off coming from foreign leagues so early in their spurs career? It's like they lose all grasp of what has gone on before.
 

degoose

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Jul 3, 2004
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..and Modric for that matter.

It's amazing isn't it.

When will fans learn not to write players off coming from foreign leagues so early in their spurs career? It's like they lose all grasp of what has gone on before.
yeah i do remember the abuse Modric got when he first joined but it took a good two seasons for him to find his preferred position , adjust to the league and then finally found centre mid to be the place he excelled at. When Modric first joined he mainly played behind the striker then went left wing but roamed and finally finished in the middle which everyone said he would not be able to playing. Obviously he could as he played his best football there and Madrid came in for him.

A lot of players take time to adapt, some settle much quicker.
 

Bus-Conductor

SC Supporter
Oct 19, 2004
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Alli indeed had a poor game on Saturday but his contribution over the season has been phenomenal for one of his age. And , like all great strikers, we can forgive an average performance from Kane because he once again scored a crucial goal. I'm not really convinced about Son but of course he needs more time. Buying a young back up striker like Dembele Junior would be a smart move in the summer. In fact I was disappointed we didn't agree to the loan back deal which is apparently why it didn't go through in January.


I don't know enough about Fulham's Dembele to know if he'd be an adequate back up for Kane, or even if he'd be a better back up striker than Son already is. I've only seen him on Youtube - and he I can't say I have seen enough of his all round game to form a valid opinion. The consensus of those that have is that his all round game is pretty limited.
 

kendoddsdadsdogsdead

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Aug 29, 2011
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Eriksen lost the ball on the edge of our box and then lost it in the middle of the park before the Coutinho dive. Other than the assist (which he did well for) he offered very little. Corners were generally shocking and free kicks were poor but that doesn't stop half of SC rating him up there with Hugo (who was immense) for the match yesterday :ROFLMAO:

Fuck me, it's actually painful reading this tripe.

I do think Eriksens overrated on here and he's definitely not irreplaceable. He does have a good football brain and is composed with the ball. He also has a great delivery but he drifts in and out of games far to much, gets brushed off the ball far to easily, pulls out of challenges. Personal feel he gets an easy ride compared to some others.
 

SlotBadger

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Jul 24, 2013
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11 players and subs gave everything for the club and got us a point in a very difficult game and someone gives the MOTM to someone who didn't even play on the basis it proved his value to team? If I was as petty and sad as that player's hard core fan club I'd have given him a well deserved neg rating, but I'm not, so pulled him up on it. I support Spurs, not any one particular player, and I don't seek denigrate half the team to try and make my favourite player look good.

I'm not agreeing with giving MOTM to a player who didn't play, but fabricating a potential comment based on Lamela playing the same pass as Eriksen to assist Kane is just hyperbole.

I'm just saying that you spend as much time talking Lamela down, whenever he plays, compared to the users who talk him up when he doesn't.
 
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Ionman34

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Jun 1, 2011
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I do think Eriksens overrated on here and he's definitely not irreplaceable. He does have a good football brain and is composed with the ball. He also has a great delivery but he drifts in and out of games far to much, gets brushed off the ball far to easily, pulls out of challenges. Personal feel he gets an easy ride compared to some others.

It's swings and roundabouts really, some see what others don't and vice versa.

I can remember Hoddle through the 80's having a tendency to drift out of games or have outright stinkers, then turn on a little magic to change a game. The first 81 cup final being a prime example, Hoddle was awful, but banged in the free kick, albeit with a huge deflection, to get us to the replay.

The rest is Golden history.

I think too much is expected from his biggest critic and, possibly, not enough from his fans. The reality is that he is a vital contributor to the team dynamic. He might not throw in crunching tackles, but he plays a big part in winning and recycling ball. He plays a big part in our creativity up front, his assist to Kane wasn't an aberration this weekend.

I like Eriksen, he might not be the World Class playmaker that some on here desire or expect, but that's more about certain people managing their own expectations.

He certainly doesn't deserve the bagging out he gets on here on such a regular basis.
 

Borks

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Jun 22, 2014
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All I'd said on Eriksen in the match thread was how well he did for the goal despite him having a generally poor game imo. Then I come in here and read that his performance was comparable to Hugo's or that he was our best player. Christ, give me a break.
 

kendoddsdadsdogsdead

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Aug 29, 2011
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It's swings and roundabouts really, some see what others don't and vice versa.

I can remember Hoddle through the 80's having a tendency to drift out of games or have outright stinkers, then turn on a little magic to change a game. The first 81 cup final being a prime example, Hoddle was awful, but banged in the free kick, albeit with a huge deflection, to get us to the replay.

The rest is Golden history.

I think too much is expected from his biggest critic and, possibly, not enough from his fans. The reality is that he is a vital contributor to the team dynamic. He might not throw in crunching tackles, but he plays a big part in winning and recycling ball. He plays a big part in our creativity up front, his assist to Kane wasn't an aberration this weekend.

I like Eriksen, he might not be the World Class playmaker that some on here desire or expect, but that's more about certain people managing their own expectations.

He certainly doesn't deserve the bagging out he gets on here on such a regular basis.

Personally don't think he gets much stick on here at all(which is good). Don't get me wrong I like most of what Eriksen brings and you can never have enough players with a good football brain, however I do often find myself frustrated with him in phases of the game but I also appreciate that it will be hard to replace him with someone who brings what he brings but is more constant and dynamic in games. Doesn't mean we shouldn't try though.
 

adamsky

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Dec 8, 2006
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Everyone who is disappointed in Son and calling for Lamela should remember what most people thought of Lamela in his first 2 seasons. I would go as far to say that I am more impressed with Son than I was with Lamela (happy to have been proven wrong) and still think with a little confidence and a year to get use to the Prem, Son could still come good.
 

Ionman34

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Jun 1, 2011
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All I'd said on Eriksen in the match thread was how well he did for the goal despite him having a generally poor game imo. Then I come in here and read that his performance was comparable to Hugo's or that he was our best player. Christ, give me a break.

Take a Valium sweetheart, no one singled you out and some of what you say is valid. However, that doesn't validate everything you say about him.
 

Ionman34

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Jun 1, 2011
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Personally don't think he gets much stick on here at all(which is good). Don't get me wrong I like most of what Eriksen brings and you can never have enough players with a good football brain, however I do often find myself frustrated with him in phases of the game but I also appreciate that it will be hard to replace him with someone who brings what he brings but is more constant and dynamic in games. Doesn't mean we shouldn't try though.
Agreed, he can frustrate, but he can also make you sit up straight in your seat with admiration, both in equal measure.

There are more than a few players out there who would be an upgrade, but you pay massive premiums for them. If I had my way I'd break the bank for De Bruyne, IMO the most talented Footballer in the Premier, arguably Europe and my absolute favourite player outside Spurs.
But he cost 40 million to Eriksen's 11 million. In terms of what they bring to their respective teams though, which of us do you reckon had the better deal to date?

What I will say is that I feel Eriksen has improved under Poch, I don't think he drifts out of games to the extent he used to, but I'm dubious as to how much higher his ceiling is.

One thing we can be sure of though, the club will always be looking for players to achieve that higher level, they're just not going to spend squillions to get them.
 

danielneeds

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May 5, 2004
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Agreed, he can frustrate, but he can also make you sit up straight in your seat with admiration, both in equal measure.

There are more than a few players out there who would be an upgrade, but you pay massive premiums for them. If I had my way I'd break the bank for De Bruyne, IMO the most talented Footballer in the Premier, arguably Europe and my absolute favourite player outside Spurs.
But he cost 40 million to Eriksen's 11 million. In terms of what they bring to their respective teams though, which of us do you reckon had the better deal to date?

What I will say is that I feel Eriksen has improved under Poch, I don't think he drifts out of games to the extent he used to, but I'm dubious as to how much higher his ceiling is.

One thing we can be sure of though, the club will always be looking for players to achieve that higher level, they're just not going to spend squillions to get them.
Finger's crossed in two or three years time Marcus Edwards has broken into the first team and is challenging Eriksen for the jersey. The kid has a wand of a left foot.
 

Ionman34

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Jun 1, 2011
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Finger's crossed in two or three years time Marcus Edwards has broken into the first team and is challenging Eriksen for the jersey. The kid has a wand of a left foot.

I hear lots of good things about him but I'll have to take your word for it DN as I've never seen him.

Is he actually now on our books then? I seem to remember there being a question mark over whether he was going to sign a contract with us.
 

Bus-Conductor

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Oct 19, 2004
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I do think Eriksens overrated on here and he's definitely not irreplaceable. He does have a good football brain and is composed with the ball. He also has a great delivery but he drifts in and out of games far to much, gets brushed off the ball far to easily, pulls out of challenges. Personal feel he gets an easy ride compared to some others.

How can you say he drifts in and pout of games far too much ? He averages more passes per game than Dembele - a CM.
 

kendoddsdadsdogsdead

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Aug 29, 2011
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How can you say he drifts in and pout of games far too much ? He averages more passes per game than Dembele - a CM.
If he does that surprises me. Just what I feel when I watch games. He might have ten, fifteen minute spells where he's on the ball a lot then he drifts out for ten minutes. Maybe as well because he hasn't got the prescence of a Dembele. Like I said I like him as a player I like that he's never rushed even when he's got people around him, he's got a good football brain and he's up there with Kane when striking the ball of either foot. That said I do find myself frustrated with him during games. Maybe it's the hanging a leg out in challenges or just blatantly pulling out altogether. I also feel he gets brushed off the ball to easily at times but maybe that's compounded by alli, son and Lemela being guilty of this too.
 

Bus-Conductor

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Most of our forward bunch are pretty frustrating some of the time. Personally, as much as I accept Eriksen isn't the bravest, I still find him the least frustrating of the forward pack.
 

Wirral Spurs

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Jun 9, 2009
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Alli injured his knee in the first few minutes right in front of me (in amongst the home support). Was this mentioned on TV? it definitely had an impact on his performance in the first half.
 
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