Remaining Fixtures Comparison

[Dazza86]

To me, these are the most interesting posts, so I've put together a comparison list for us, Arsenal and Everton, viewing the remaining fixtures this season against the corresponding fixtures from last.

The results have surprised me, and I think it will be a massive ask for us to get the same points from these fixtures. Equally, I don't expect Arsenal and Everton to drop the same amount of point.

It's taken me a little while to put together, but hopefully it's as interesting for you guys as it is for me.

Tottenham

Last season results

West Brom (a) 3 - 1 W
Newcastle (h) 5 - 0 W
West Ham (a) 4 - 1 W substituted with Bolton (a)
Arsenal (h) 2 - 1 W
Liverpool (a) 0 - 0 D
Fulham (h) 2 - 0 W
Swansea (a) 1 - 1 D
Everton (h) 2 - 0 W
Chelsea (a) 0 - 0 D
Man City (h) 1 - 5 L
Wigan (a) 2 - 1 W
Southampton (h) 2 - 0 W substituted with Blackburn (h)
Stoke (a) 1 - 2 L
Sunderland (h) 1 - 0 W

This set of results would put us on a total of 72 points.

Arsenal

Last season results

Stoke (h) 3 - 1 W
Sunderland (a) 2 - 1 W
Aston Villa (h) 3 - 0 W
Tottenham (a) 1 - 2 L
Everton (h) 1 - 0 W
Swansea (a) 2 - 3 L
Reading (h) 7 - 1 W substituted with Blackburn (h)
West Brom (a) 3 - 2 W
Norwich (h) 3 - 3 D
Fulham (a) 1 - 2 L
Man U (h) 1 - 2 L
QPR (a) 1 - 2 L
Wigan (h) 1 - 2 L
Newcastle (a) 0 - 0 D

This set of results would put them on a total of 58 points

Everton

Last season results

Aston Villa (h) 2 - 2 D
Man U (a) 4 - 4 D
Norwich (a) 2 - 2 D
Reading (h) 1 - 1 D substituted with Blackburn
Arsenal (a) 0 - 1 L
Man City (h) 1 - 0 W
Stoke (h) 0 - 1 L
Tottenham (a) 0 - 2 L
QPR (h) 0 - 1 L
Sunderland (a) 1 - 1 D
Fulham (h) 4 - 0 W
Liverpool (a) 0 - 3 L
West Ham (h) 1 - 1 D substituted with Blackburn (h)
Chelsea (a) 1 - 3 L

Everton are clearly improved since last season and so we must apply a different measure here. After 24 games last year they had 30 points, and this season 41. This is approx 25% better off.

So if we total their points with last years, they would total 53 Points.

However, if we add 25% on to the 12 points they gained from these fixtures last year, we can estimate that they would total 15 more points, giving them a total of 58.


Enjoy everyone.

 

[playboypaul]

Well, all I can say after looking at that is that I hope we can see a repeat of those results from last year. That would see us finish 4th with room to spare!

 

[Blake Griffin]

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[Greenspur]

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Wow! Can this be true? I'm not sure how they do it, or if their calculations are shite, but even if they're only half right, it would seem we should finish 4th.
Or, am I completely misinterpreting it?

 

[Blake Griffin]

Wow! Can this be true? I'm not sure how they do it, or if their calculations are shite, but even if they're only half right, it would seem we should finish 4th.
Or, am I completely misinterpreting it?

no, you're right.

we finished with 69 points last season, of the 24 games we've played this season we've taken three more points than we did last season, so if we just match the results from the remaining 14 games we'll finish on 72 points. arsenal finished with 70 points last season, they've taken 12 fewer points this season from the same 24 fixtures, so they need to take 12 more points from the remaining 14 fixtures just to equal last season's total.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Wow! Can this be true? I'm not sure how they do it, or if their calculations are shite, but even if they're only half right, it would seem we should finish 4th.
Or, am I completely misinterpreting it?

It's not so much misinterpretation as a fools errand. This season isn't least season and last season's results have absolutely no bearing or influence on this season's games.

 

[Greenspur]

It's not so much misinterpretation as a fools errand. This season isn't least season and last season's results have absolutely no bearing or influence on this season's games.

I totally agree, yet at the same time Man Utd are 5 points better off than last season, and Citeh are on point worse off. I wouldn't like to bet against MU winning it this year.

 

[guiltyparty]

This is all well and good but still, on paper, it's hard to argue that we have a much harder run in than Arsenal. Everton's is the toughest of the lot, mind

 

[ajspurs]

You'd certainly like to think it won't matter, but Arsenal have Newcastle away last game, Everton have Chelsea away and we have Sunderland at home with is pretty pleasing.

 

[Lo Amo Speroni]

You'd certainly like to think it won't matter, but Arsenal have Newcastle away last game, Everton have Chelsea away and we have Sunderland at home with is pretty pleasing.

Oh man i want it sorted before then.

 

[ajspurs]

Oh man i want it sorted before then.

So do I mate.

 

[HotspurFC1950]

To me, these are the most interesting posts, so I've put together a comparison list for us, Arsenal and Everton, viewing the remaining fixtures this season against the corresponding fixtures from last.

The results have surprised me, and I think it will be a massive ask for us to get the same points from these fixtures. Equally, I don't expect Arsenal and Everton to drop the same amount of point.

It's taken me a little while to put together, but hopefully it's as interesting for you guys as it is for me.

Tottenham

Last season results

West Brom (a) 3 - 1 W
Newcastle (h) 5 - 0 W
West Ham (a) 4 - 1 W substituted with Bolton (a)
Arsenal (h) 2 - 1 W
Liverpool (a) 0 - 0 D
Fulham (h) 2 - 0 W
Swansea (a) 1 - 1 D
Everton (h) 2 - 0 W
Chelsea (a) 0 - 0 D
Man City (h) 1 - 5 L
Wigan (a) 2 - 1 W
Southampton (h) 2 - 0 W substituted with Blackburn (h)
Stoke (a) 1 - 2 L
Sunderland (h) 1 - 0 W

This set of results would put us on a total of 72 points.

Arsenal

Last season results

Stoke (h) 3 - 1 W
Sunderland (a) 2 - 1 W
Aston Villa (h) 3 - 0 W
Tottenham (a) 1 - 2 L
Everton (h) 1 - 0 W
Swansea (a) 2 - 3 L
Reading (h) 7 - 1 W substituted with Blackburn (h)
West Brom (a) 3 - 2 W
Norwich (h) 3 - 3 D
Fulham (a) 1 - 2 L
Man U (h) 1 - 2 L
QPR (a) 1 - 2 L
Wigan (h) 1 - 2 L
Newcastle (a) 0 - 0 D

This set of results would put them on a total of 58 points

Everton

Last season results

Aston Villa (h) 2 - 2 D
Man U (a) 4 - 4 D
Norwich (a) 2 - 2 D
Reading (h) 1 - 1 D substituted with Blackburn
Arsenal (a) 0 - 1 L
Man City (h) 1 - 0 W
Stoke (h) 0 - 1 L
Tottenham (a) 0 - 2 L
QPR (h) 0 - 1 L
Sunderland (a) 1 - 1 D
Fulham (h) 4 - 0 W
Liverpool (a) 0 - 3 L
West Ham (h) 1 - 1 D substituted with Blackburn (h)
Chelsea (a) 1 - 3 L

Everton are clearly improved since last season and so we must apply a different measure here. After 24 games last year they had 30 points, and this season 41. This is approx 25% better off.

So if we total their points with last years, they would total 53 Points.

However, if we add 25% on to the 12 points they gained from these fixtures last year, we can estimate that they would total 15 more points, giving them a total of 57.


Enjoy everyone.

57 ?

 

[Snarfalicious]

I think the next 2 matches are really important for us.

West Brom away and Nouveaucastle at home. If we can manage to win them both, it would not only be a huge boost to our chances for 4th, but also moving forward. West Brom have seen their star fade pretty rapidly, but they should not be taken lightly in any fashion. They can pull goals out of nothing with some of their players, and they are decent enough to put us away early if we treat them as anything but a worthy opponent.

As for Newcastle, they look a completely different side. I'm going to pray that Cisse is banned for the match for his pretty mild "throat grab" on Cole (Grasping at straws, I know), but their midfield is fully capable of giving ours a run around with Cabaye, Sissoko (Should've signed him) and whoever else they put in there to round it out.

After those matches we have: West Ham (H), Arsenal (H), Liverpool (A), Fulham(H) and Swansea(A).

It's imperative we pick up the maximum points before we hit that tough stretch.

 

[idontgetit]

We seem meticulously set on outperforming our opposition by the smallest possible measurement so it doesn't really matter who we play. If we think they're shite we nonce about scratching our bollocks for the first half hour and if we're up against a good side we go at em hard but have to immediately stop if there's even the slightest chance of embarrassing a side or of even a single spurs fan feeling comfortable

 

[Dazza86]

Interesting to see that since I posted these results, only one of the fixtures (Everton vs Man U) has ended differently.

Hopefully that trend continues.

 

[WestBelfast Spurs]

why only Arseanl Evertons, weres City's and the Chavs, in my eyes we can catch second

 

[playboypaul]

Just having another look at our remaining fixtures and comparing them to last seasons results again and seeing where that translates to final position as things stand.

Spurs
Arse (H) 2-1 W
Liverpool (A) 0-0 D
Fulham (H) 2-0 W
Swansea (A) 1-1 D
Everton (H) 2-0 W
Chelsea (A) 0-0 D
Man City (H) 1-5 L
Wigan (A) 1-2 W
Southampton (H) 3-0 W (Boltons 11/12 result)
Stoke (A) 2-1 L
Sunderland (H) 1-0 W


W6/D3/L2 PTS 21

So these results saw us getting 21 extra points. Add that to our current total and we have a final amount of 72 points.

Chelsea
West Brom (H) 2-1 W
Fulham (A) 1-1 D
West Ham (H) 3-0 W (Wolves 11/12 result)
Southampton (A) 1-5 W (Bolton 11/12 result)
Sunderland (H) 1-0 W
Spurs (H) 0-0 D
Liverpool (A) 4-1 L
Swansea (H) 4-1 W
Man Utd (A) 3-1 L
Villa (A) 2-4 W
Everton (H)3-1 W

W7/D2/L2 PTS 23

Chelsea get 23 points from the corresponding fixtures of last season and their added total is 72 points.

Arsenal
Spurs (A) 2-1 L
Everton (H) 1-0 W
Swansea (H) 1-0 W
Reading (A) 4-3 L (Blackburn 11/12 result)
West Brom (A) 2-3 W
Norwich (H) 3-3 D
Fulham (A) 2-1 L
Man Utd (H) 1-2 L
QPR (A) 2-1 L
Wigan (H) 1-2 L
Newcastle (A) 0-0 D

W3/D2/L6 PTS 11

A surprising set of results that, if they go as they did last year, would see Arsenal reach a total of only 58 points.


Everton
Reading (H) 1-1 D (Blackburn 11/12 result)
Arsenal (A) 1-0 L
Man City (H)1-0 W
Stoke (H) 0-1 L
Spurs (A) 2-0 L
QPR (H) 0-1 L
Sunderland (A) 1-1 D
Fulham (H) 4-0 W
Liverpool (A) 3-0 L
West Ham (H) 2-1 W (swapped with Wolves)
Chelsea (A)3-1 L

W3/D2/L6 PTS 11

With Everton we see they also only got a small return on last seasons matching fixtures and that see's a total of 53 points.

West Brom
Chelsea (A) 2-1 L
Swansea (H) 1-2 L
Stoke (A) 1-2 W
West Ham (A) 1-5 W (Wolves 11/12 result)
Arsenal (H) 2-3 L
Man City (A) 4-0 L
Newcastle (H) 1-3 L
Southampton (A) 2-2 D (Bolton 11/12 result)
Wigan (H) 1-2 L
Norwich (A) 0-1 W
Man Utd (H) 1-2 L

W3/D1/L7 PTS 10

Another low return from last seasons corresponding matches see's West Brom reach a total of 50 points.

CONTINUED IN NEXT POST​

 

[playboypaul]

Liverpool
Wigan (A) 0-0 D
Spurs (H) 0-0 D
Southampton (A) 3-1 L (Bolton 11/12 result)
Villa (A) 0-2 W
West Ham (H) 2-1 W (Wolves 11/12 result)
Reading (A) 2-3 W (Blackburn 11/12 result)
Chelsea (H) 4-1 W
Newcastle (A) 2-0 L
Everton (H) 3-0 W
Fulham (A) 1-0 L
QPR (H) 1-0 W

W6/D2/L3 PTS 20

Liverpool achieved a respectable amount of points from last seasons matches and they have a total of 59 points.

Man City
Villa (A) 0-1 W
Everton (A) 1-0 L
Newcastle (H) 3-1 W
Man Utd (A) 1-6 W
West Brom (H) 4-0 W
Spurs (A) 1-5 W
West Ham (H) 3-1 W (Wolves 11/12 result)
Swansea (A) 1-0 L
Reading (A) 0-4 W (Blackburn 11/12 result)
Norwich (H) 5-1 W
Wigan (H) Date TBC 3-0 W

W9/D0/L2 PTS 27

Man City done the best out of all the teams with their corresponding fixtures and if results mirror last year they would get a total of 83 points.

So now we have all the totals and that translates in to a final projected league table (excluding Man Utd) of this.

.....................PLYD.....W.....D.....L.....PTS
2...Man City......38......25......8......5......83
3...Tottenham..38.......21......9......8......72
4...Chelsea.......38.......21.....9......8......72
5...Liverpool.....38.......16.....11....11.....59
6...Arsenal........38.......16.....10....12.....58
7...Everton........38.......13.....14....11.....53
8...West Brom...38......15......5......18.....50


I hope things work out this way. Goal difference would decide between us and the chavs but thats not really important as with arse finishing 6th, it still looks good. Obviously this is all unlikely but I would love it.

I would really love it.

 

[Dazza86]

Just having another look at our remaining fixtures and comparing them to last seasons results again and seeing where that translates to final position as things stand.

Spurs
Arse (H) 2-1 W
Liverpool (A) 0-0 D
Fulham (H) 2-0 W
Swansea (A) 1-1 D
Everton (H) 2-0 W
Chelsea (A) 0-0 D
Man City (H) 1-5 L
Wigan (A) 1-2 W
Southampton (H) 3-0 W (Boltons 11/12 result)
Stoke (A) 2-1 L
Sunderland (H) 1-0 W


W6/D3/L2 PTS 21

So these results saw us getting 21 extra points. Add that to our current total and we have a final amount of 72 points.

Chelsea
West Brom (H) 1-0 L
Fulham (A) 1-1 D
West Ham (H) 3-0 W (Wolves 11/12 result)
Southampton (A) 3-0 W (Bolton 11/12 result)
Sunderland (H) 1-0 W
Spurs (H) 0-0 D
Liverpool (A) 4-1 L
Swansea (H) 4-1 W
Man Utd (A) 3-1 L
Villa (A) 2-4 W
Everton (H)3-1 W

W6/D2/L3 PTS 20

Chelsea get 20 points from the corresponding fixtures of last season and their added total is 69 points.

Arsenal
Spurs (A) 2-1 L
Everton (H) 1-0 W
Swansea (H) 1-0 W
Reading (A) 4-3 L (Blackburn 11/12 result)
West Brom (A)2-3 L
Norwich (H) 3-3 D
Fulham (A) 2-1 L
Man Utd (H) 1-2 L
QPR (A) 2-1 L
Wigan (H) 1-2 L
Newcastle (A) 0-0 D

W2/D2/L7 PTS 8

A surprising set of results that, if they go as they did last year, would see Arsenal reach a total of only 55 points.


Everton
Reading (H) 1-1 D (Blackburn 11/12 result)
Arsenal (A) 1-0 L
Man City (H)1-0 W
Stoke (H) 0-1 L
Spurs (A) 2-0 L
QPR (H) 0-1 L
Sunderland (A) 1-1 D
Fulham (H) 4-0 W
Liverpool (A) 3-0 L
West Ham (H) 2-1 W (swapped with Wolves)
Chelsea (A)3-1 L

W3/D2/L6 PTS 11

With Everton we see they also only got a small return on last seasons matching fixtures and that see's a total of 53 points.

West Brom
Chelsea (A) 2-1 L
Swansea (H) 1-2 L
Stoke (A) 0-1 L
West Ham (A) 1-5 W (Wolves 11/12 result)
Arsenal (H) 2-3 L
Man City (A) 4-0 L
Newcastle (H) 1-3 L
Southampton (A) 2-2 D (Bolton 11/12 result)
Wigan (H) 1-2 L
Norwich (A) 0-1 W
Man Utd (H) 2-0 L

W2/D1/L8 PTS 7

Another low return from last seasons corresponding matches see's West Brom reach a total of 47 points.

CONTINUED IN NEXT POST​

Arsenal definitely won away to West Brom last year. I remember because it broke my heart...

 

[Dazza86]

why only Arseanl Evertons, weres City's and the Chavs, in my eyes we can catch second

When I created the thread catching Chelsea and Man City was a long shot. Plus it takes time to do that kind of thing!