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Robbie Keane - Annoyed with Robbie or Harry?

Bulletspur

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He's only just turned 29 ffs! His best days are likely ahead of him like happened with Teddy. He only struggled at Liverpool because Benitez wanted to play 4-5-1 and Keane can't play LM.
I know you are a big Robbie fan but irrespective of his age his best is behind him, he is no Teddy Sheringham. Robbie IMO is overated. I am not saying he is a bad player, but he is not that good but people seem to think he can walk on water.

Harry should not have made him Captain (not personal, I have never believed that a striker should be captain) and in doing so has made him almost undroppable, at the detriment of others and the club. Why did he not play Nico, Bentley or Gio in that position where all are better than him? Its easy to make excuses like travelling from South America, only had one training session, and the likes but ffs they are professionals so these excuses are lame or desperate attempt to find an excuse for playing Robbie!
 

stemark44

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I can't believe that our fans didn't want Craig Bellamy instead of Robbie Keane.
Thats just laughable because he has everything that Keane doesn't have - Desire,Heart,Pace and Leadership!
 

MattyP

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He's only just turned 29 ffs! His best days are likely ahead of him like happened with Teddy. He only struggled at Liverpool because Benitez wanted to play 4-5-1 and Keane can't play LM.

You can see it, I can see it, pretty much everyone can see it and yet 'Arry can't.

When the team was announced in the pub before the game I said it was a mistake playing Keane left wing. It's not Keane's fault, it's like playing Gomes at rightback then moaning when Giggsy beats him every time.

'Arry fucked up in his selection, but equally Evra bossed Lennon, the ref was awful, we played shite and United put in their best performance of the season.

Bad day at the office.
 

Damian99

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You should NEVER ever play a player out of position thus weakening the team, when you have better options open to you i.e Having a player/players who can naturally play that position better.
 

chileanspursfan

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I would like to think that Harry decides on Keane every week because he feels the team needs his voice and presence on the pitch at all time. Because the only other reason I have to explain his constant selection even in the unfamiliar role of LW is that of a weird clause in his clause stating that he has to start every match...
 

3Dnata

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What makes Keane undroppable is what annoys the anti Keanites so much.
All these nonsense posts about "pointy shouty bloke waving his arms". Harry Redknapp has said that we are a too nice side and that was one of the reasons he signed Keane/tried to sign Bellamy.
We really don't have that without Keane and I'm afraid it is needed.
The problem is I would start any of our other strikers ahead of Keane at the moment and it isn't his fault but he is not a left midfielder.
It know probably makes more sense that Harry was after Viera(and I was one of those against it) because let's face it we don't really have any aggresive leaders on the pitch.
Perhaps Woodgate could be that man but it is something we are in very short supply of.
 

hooty

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I think playing him at lm was a mistake. Not because I think he is a poor player or doesn't deserve his place in the team. But because when he is upfront, he drops back, giving a link between midfield and attack and providing 5 in midfield when we are under pressure. With Keane already in midfield, the two strikers don't drop back and there is a big gap between midfield and attack. So we resorted to hoofing the ball up the field.

I'm not sure why everyone is ignoring the fact that after Keane went off for Kranjcar, our left side was almost non-existent. We were better when Keane was on imo.

Kranjcar has had one day with the other players. And GDS just came back from Central America. Not to mention the fact that he actually isn't anywhere near as good as some people think.
 

WhiteHart4Ever

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We've won four out of five and've looked very good. Keane has played some good football, got goals and assists. We really, really missed his excellent link-up play and smart passes when he went to 'Pool. Playing without BOTH him and Modric means alot of the creativity is lost, which was prob Harry's reasoning for playing him at LM yesterday. He is NOT a LM, in particular against the good sides, and should have started with Defoe upfront (but, remember, Crouch and Defoe almost singelhandedly gave us that first goal (cred to Palacios too...)
 

Legend10

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We've won four out of five and've looked very good. Keane has played some good football, got goals and assists. We really, really missed his excellent link-up play and smart passes when he went to 'Pool. Playing without BOTH him and Modric means alot of the creativity is lost, which was prob Harry's reasoning for playing him at LM yesterday. He is NOT a LM, in particular against the good sides, and should have started with Defoe upfront (but, remember, Crouch and Defoe almost singelhandedly gave us that first goal (cred to Palacios too...)

Contributed nothing apart from the Hull game.

In the last 3 games he's never even remotely looked like contributing anything!
 

hooty

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Keane has contributed a lot imo. His link up play with Modric, Defoe, Lennon and Huddlestone has been a big part of our success this season. Like I said, he helps to link the front and back. And drops back to make up the numbers when we are under pressure.
 

Legend10

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The last 3 games in particuar he's been worse than woeful! We could have done no worse playing with 10 men.
 

kcmei

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he was trying to cover for modric which was impossible. No one can replace him
 

worcestersauce

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We lost to the champions and they were really up for it, they gave it everything, there was certainly no "coasting in second gear" crap yesterday, we were ultimately beaten by a goal on the break whilst pushing forward by the better team on the day.

So what is the intelligent properly thought out conclusion?
HARRY IS CRAP AND ROBBIE IS SHIT!!!!

Brilliant!:roll:
 

Legend10

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We lost to the champions and they were really up for it, they gave it everything, there was certainly no "coasting in second gear" crap yesterday, we were ultimately beaten by a goal on the break whilst pushing forward by the better team on the day.

So what is the intelligent properly thought out conclusion?
HARRY IS CRAP AND ROBBIE IS SHIT!!!!

Brilliant!:roll:

Nothing to do with yesterday, it's a pretty fair assesment of every game keane has played for about a year!
 

kaz Hirai

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Oh dear folks!

harry's fault for playing him on the left. if he thought the game had come too soon for Kanjcar then he could have played Bentley on the right with lennon on the left (lennon would have had a better chance against Oshea)

Or he could have stuck Gio on the left

but either way Keane starting with defoe in attack has been a major reason for our good start
 

ChrisW81

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Not impressed with Keano or Harry after yesterdays game. I think Harry learned an important lesson today.

I'm a Keane fan but he hasn't been very good over the last 3 games and I think its time he made way for someone else.
 

hybridsoldier

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This Gio talk is rubbish, the only player to replace Modric in that game was O'hara.

Seriously have no idea what he is doing at Pompey and why we let him go.

ALot of people have got on his back, but he is committed, he presses and is a good enough passer and has scored a few goals too.

I think its no coincidence that alot of bad feeling has come on the back of him getting involved with a model even though for me it has not affected his performances.

Yesterday I blame Harry but overall Keano has been the shell of a forward that left us.....have no idea what Rafa has done to him!
 

Danny1

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I spoke to my mate last night who is a Man Utd fan and went to the game yesterday in the away end (so he has a neutral view) and he said that the Utd fans were so happy to see Keane at LW. They couldnt understand it at all. I asked him his view on how he thinks it worked and he basically said that all the Utd fans thought Keane was completely useless out there and we were playing with ten men throughout the game.

Personally I think Keane has done alright, nothing more, this season but thats playing up top! I couldnt believe it when I saw he was playing there and knew he would have a poor game. We have players who are natural on the wings (Lennon, Bentley, GDS, Nico & Modric) 3 of whom were available yet didnt play....! I just dont understand that to be honest. Unfortunately Harry's decision (coz you cant blame really Keane here as he was told to play there) contributed massively to our defeat yesterday.

I now hope that it is an experiment that he will try once & only once this season. I never want to see Keane out on that wing again.

But hey ho we lost and we must pick ourselves up as we have prob got our hardest game of the season next week! COYS!!!
 

AllSeeingEye

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No player earns the right to dodge worthy criticism, but Harry played Keano there because he thought he could do a job there, he was wrong, Keano was a bit crap and that's all there is to it. And as far as the sub was concerned I would have plumped for a spot of Gio, as it was Harry thought otherwise and if only Kranjcar had actually had a little more impact we might have made the draw.

Robbie is still a ton-up Spurs legend but it wasn't his game that caused the 3-1 scoreline. If anybody can be singled out for being utterly disappointing it should be Hutton.

I thought Hutton deserved a punch in the mouth after the Rooney goal.
 

pablo73

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What is really irritating me is that when Harry came in he banged on about how players were being played out of position. Overall Harry has been brilliant with his common sense approach but playing Keane on the left of midfield flew in the face of that common sense. He is not good enough (on current form at least) to be guaranteed a stating place in his best postion, let alone a position in which he is totally ineffective in. Harry gets paid enough money to make these decisions and if he wanted to play Crouch he should have dropped Keane. I honestly felt the ref evened it up when he sent off Scholes because it felt like we were playing with ten men for the whole match.

We do need to keep the result in prespective though but I hope this is an experiment Harry will never repeat.
 
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