Roberto Soldado SOLD to Villarreal

[WiganSpur]

I just don't comprehend what you think we'll be missing if Soldado leaves. His build up play is decent, but I really don't think we'll miss it and I don't really think it contributed to many, if any, goals scored for us last year.

It's for squad depth if anything.

Shaq needs to prove himself out on loan first or in this Audi Cup first before I can judge whether he'd be capable. Whilst Werner can certainly play upfront and probably better than Soldado, I see him as more of a winger for now and I don't think we can rely on him just yet to take a huge chunk of pressure off Kane.

The trouble is though we were short last season anyway. Kane got burnt out despite only coming into the team in November imo. A second out and out striker is needed who can chip in with at least 10 in all competitions. If we can't get this done, then i'd want Soldado to stay to stop Kane getting needless minutes in insignificant EL ties or League cup games at least.

If Kane was to get injured, we'd have Timo Werner and that would be it. Although I definitely think we'll get Werner, we still haven't even sealed that one yet either.

 

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If Kane was to get injured, we'd have Timo Werner and that would be it. Although I definitely think we'll get Werner, we still haven't even sealed that one yet either.

Chadli would be more than capable as a backup option imo.

I think we need to carry on as we've done in the past, three slot: 1 - First Choice, 2 - Rotation/Backup, 3 - Youth player

If we didn't have that, we'd have never had Kane anyway

 

[Danners9]

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I still think Chadli shares the blame for that. He should have stayed out of the way - or at least made himself available more than 1m away from the keeper.

If Soldado took the chance, he'd probably have scored. Cue Butterfly-effect type ponderings....

 

[Danners9]

I still think Chadli shares the blame for that. He should have stayed out of the way - or at least made himself available more than 1m away from the keeper.

If Soldado took the chance, he'd probably have scored. Cue Butterfly-effect type ponderings....

Yes, true, either more obvious or behind.. but even so, a confident striker would have shot - Kane would have shot. That dribble to the goalie sums it all up. So close so often and it didn't work out.

 

[adamsky]

Chadli would be more than capable as a backup option imo.

I think we need to carry on as we've done in the past, three slot: 1 - First Choice, 2 - Rotation/Backup, 3 - Youth player

If we didn't have that, we'd have never had Kane anyway

Chadli is definitely not the answer. Just because he scored a few goals from LWF does not mean he can be backup striker. As bad as Soldado has been we would definitely need a proper striker to replace him.

 

[Sweech]

Chadli is definitely not the answer. Just because he scored a few goals from LWF does not mean he can be backup striker. As bad as Soldado has been we would definitely need a proper striker to replace him.

Except Chadli plays a "secondary striker" role as he has himself stated. It's not just simply, "LWF".

Not to mention when you watch him play his entire skillset screams striker. If you can't move players based on their skillsets then Thierry Henry would have never become on of the most prolific strikers and would have remained a winger instead.

 

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Yes, true, either more obvious or behind.. but even so, a confident striker would have shot - Kane would have shot. That dribble to the goalie sums it all up. So close so often and it didn't work out.

That's the thing - in isolation, it was a Soldado cock-up - in reality, Chadli was being a bit of a prat and didn't help at all.

Even when Soldado passed he cocked his footing up like he wasn't expecting it - why else take that run if you don't expect the pass

 

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Except Chadli plays a "secondary striker" role as he has himself stated. It's not just simply, "LWF".

Not to mention when you watch him play his entire skillset screams striker. If you can't move players based on their skillsets then Thierry Henry would have never become on of the most prolific strikers and would have remained a winger instead.

Exactly - the goals chadli has scored have been a forward's goals. Nothing like those that Bale, Siggy, Townsend or Eriksen have had.

I don't really see his compatibility with being on the wing

 

[Sweech]

It's for squad depth if anything.

Shaq needs to prove himself out on loan first or in this Audi Cup first before I can judge whether he'd be capable. Whilst Werner can certainly play upfront and probably better than Soldado, I see him as more of a winger for now and I don't think we can rely on him just yet to take a huge chunk of pressure off Kane.

The trouble is though we were short last season anyway. Kane got burnt out despite only coming into the team in November imo. A second out and out striker is needed who can chip in with at least 10 in all competitions. If we can't get this done, then i'd want Soldado to stay to stop Kane getting needless minutes in insignificant EL ties or League cup games at least.

If Kane was to get injured, we'd have Timo Werner and that would be it. Although I definitely think we'll get Werner, we still haven't even sealed that one yet either.

I 100% agree that we need striker reinforcements behind Kane, that's not the point.

My point is we have no need to hang onto Soldado, as you yourself admitted Kane looked burnt out and obviously Soldado did nothing to alleviate that.

Not to mention if EL games are so meaningless...why not play a youth player there...like Coulthirst, so he can prove he can play?

 

[WiganSpur]

I 100% agree that we need striker reinforcements behind Kane, that's not the point.

My point is we have no need to hang onto Soldado, as you yourself admitted Kane looked burnt out and obviously Soldado did nothing to alleviate that.

Not to mention if EL games are so meaningless...why not play a youth player there...like Coulthirst, so he can prove he can play?

I should have mentioned about the insignificance in a relative sense to Kane's ability. We need someone who is decent enough but who doesn't have to be top class like Kane.

As i've said before, if Shaq proves himself in the Audi Cup and in the first couple of games of the season where he may get time, then I will change my opinion, but as it stands he's a League 2 level striker.

Soldado played nearly 2,000 minutes in all comps and Kane was burnt out. If Werner comes in then he can replace those minutes potentially, but Kane will still end up being burnt out if he isn't supported more by an out and out forward.

I guess what i'm saying is Soldado right now is a much better option than Coulthirst until he proves himself. If he does then I will change my opinion and say that we could probably sell Soldado without needing a reinforcement first.

 

[Air Jordan 3]

Like Soldado but unfortunately not cut out for us.

After being left out of MLS game I very much doubt if he will be on the bench next week.

If we sell him and Ade and get one in before Utd we are in a better position than we are today as I think Coulthirst will be on bench at the minute.

If we can get 1 in this week that should see us through first few games and gives us 3 weeks to reinforce with another wing/forward and a midfielder which in my opinion is all we need.

 

[fortworthspur]

Chadli could definitely play striker in a pinch if we dont sign replacements for Ade and Soldado this week. Wouldnt want to go the whole season with that set-up, but I very much doubt that is the plan.

 

[TEESSIDE1]

I 100% agree that we need striker reinforcements behind Kane, that's not the point.

My point is we have no need to hang onto Soldado, as you yourself admitted Kane looked burnt out and obviously Soldado did nothing to alleviate that.

Not to mention if EL games are so meaningless...why not play a youth player there...like Coulthirst, so he can prove he can play?

Soldado didn't alleviate things because he was in a world of pain. No one is ever good at their job after receiving devastating news (like his wife's miscarriage).

 

[Lilbaz]

€17 mil is the equivalent of about £11 mil with the current exchange rate. Not great but i cant see anyone paying any more considering the two seasons he's had.

We were ment to have paid £13m for him at a time when the euro was at a similar level to the £.

 

[Lukasz]

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[yankspur]

I 100% agree that we need striker reinforcements behind Kane, that's not the point.

My point is we have no need to hang onto Soldado, as you yourself admitted Kane looked burnt out and obviously Soldado did nothing to alleviate that.

Not to mention if EL games are so meaningless...why not play a youth player there...like Coulthirst, so he can prove he can play?

EL may be the only chance (slight as it may be) of get in Champions League. So is it meaningless?

 

[rc1]

I still think Chadli shares the blame for that. He should have stayed out of the way - or at least made himself available more than 1m away from the keeper.

If Soldado took the chance, he'd probably have scored. Cue Butterfly-effect type ponderings....

Also chadli could have easily challenged for the ball their but like the wimp he is, he's not up for putting his football in. But yeah soldado should have just finished that. Trick is not to run straight at the keeper but to try to create an angle.

 

[Sweech]

EL may be the only chance (slight as it may be) of get in Champions League. So is it meaningless?

Why ask me? He's the one that said it, I was just replying. Although he technically said "insignificant".

 

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Also chadli could have easily challenged for the ball their but like the wimp he is, he's not up for putting his football in. But yeah soldado should have just finished that. Trick is not to run straight at the keeper but to try to create an angle.

Both could have done a lot better, but I really fail to see what Chadli was trying to achieve with his presence during the chance. Real turning point that put the nail in the coffin for Bobby.