Ross Barkley

[Cornpattbuck]

I think Roberto Martínez came along at just the wrong time in the development of Barkley and Stones. Would love to get Barkley and think he'd click well in our squad.

 

[spursfan77]

I've a feeling he'd really frustrate us. After reading that Everton fans report I'm even more convinced that will be the case.

I just think he's not got a good footballing brain. He makes the wrong decisions a lot. But that could just be down to bad coaching. It's not like he's had the best managers working with him.

 

[Bobbins]

I just stated one example of how Barkley could be utilised. But, if you take that literally as his only role, I can't help it.

For starters, Dele is banned for 3 CL games and most likely Son won't be available for the 1st month. So there is a chance for Barkley to come into the XI & perform. Poch always says players are paid to train. So, if Barkley trains well, who knows he may get a berth.

The very fact that Sissoko is on 90k (with a fee of 30m) & struggles to get to bench says that we are Ok to have a highly paid player on bench.

If your attitude is Spurs should challenge for all competition like Chelsea...then don't question why Barkley should be paid for bench role, when Fabregas & Willian are doing the same role for Chelsea.

If it's the only example you're going to write about, expect to be questioned on it?

 

[RamonVega'sShinners]

I just done get this at all, I don't see how he improves us or gets anywhere near the team. Alli, Eriksen, Son, Lamela would all start ahead of him, I'd say he is pretty similar to 3 of them, we need somebody with more pace and penetration imo. Maybe Poch thinks GKN will step up next year and provide that. Guess we'll have to trust the manager.

 

[Jospur]

I just done get this at all, I don't see how he improves us or gets anywhere near the team. Alli, Eriksen, Son, Lamela would all start ahead of him, I'd say he is pretty similar to 3 of them, we need somebody with more pace and penetration imo. Maybe Poch thinks GKN will step up next year and provide that. Guess we'll have to trust the manager.

I must admit that I think Barkley is a decent player - but I do agree with you in that I don't quite see where he'll play.

A big priority has to be a swift, tricky forward - especially as Pochettino has not given N'Koudou much game time to show what he can do. The other priority would be a creative someone to partner Wanyama/Dier in the middle of the park as Dembele is not entirely reliable. My preference for this latter role would be John Michael Seri of Nice - but sounds like Roma is close to brining him in. So what this Barkley talk suggests to me is that the coach either plans to slot Eriksen back into the centre to partner the DMs or he plans to play Barkley in this creative role.

 

[DanielCHillier]

i just don't see where he would get in our team, it feels like a steven pinaar (buying because he's cheap) type signing.
he himself says that the Dele role is his best position, he's not a DM, not a wide man and not creative.

Well if we sign him, he's going to be starting our first 3 Champions League games in the 'Dele role'

 

[arunspurs]

I must admit that I think Barkley is a decent player - but I do agree with you in that I don't quite see where he'll play.

A big priority has to be a swift, tricky forward - especially as Pochettino has not given N'Koudou much game time to show what he can do. The other priority would be a creative someone to partner Wanyama/Dier in the middle of the park as Dembele is not entirely reliable. My preference for this latter role would be John Michael Seri of Nice - but sounds like Roma is close to brining him in. So what this Barkley talk suggests to me is that the coach either plans to slot Eriksen back into the centre to partner the DMs or he plans to play Barkley in this creative role.

His best (last season) came when he played at RM position, which is a position we are weak. He isnt a typical winger but he uses the space well & dribbles well from right wing.

 

[ostrov]

I've a feeling he'd really frustrate us. After reading that Everton fans report I'm even more convinced that will be the case.

I just think he's not got a good footballing brain. He makes the wrong decisions a lot. But that could just be down to bad coaching. It's not like he's had the best managers working with him.

A fascinating subject - the footballing brain. Good coaching can do wonders. Take Kyle Walker for example. He's lost a bad habit of passing the ball at random.
What makes me even more convinced about that, when I watch wild animals at the circus. They perform unbelievable tricks after hard training. Wild animals, Karl. I am sure Barkley can't do any worse.

 

[Curtis Peterson]

I think Barkley could do really well under Poch. My only concern is the price. I'm not sure that he's the kind of player who we need to be spending a premium on.

 

[YiddoTom90]

Anything less then 20 mill is a good deal. Unplayable in top form yet extremely anonymous when not. Could see poch adressing that.

 

[yiddo]

Anything less then 20 mill is a good deal. Unplayable in top form yet extremely anonymous when not. Could see poch adressing that.

Sure.... the problem is Everton want 50m

There is definitely huge potential in Barkley but its also clear that its far from guaranteed, in fact I would say the risk is high. We don't have the luxury of being able to throw millions around like other clubs so I feel unless Everton get desperate and need to cash in at a reasonable price then this deal wont happen.

 

[DezFitz]

Sure.... the problem is Everton want 50m

There is definitely huge potential in Barkley but its also clear that its far from guaranteed, in fact I would say the risk is high. We don't have the luxury of being able to throw millions around like other clubs so I feel unless Everton get desperate and need to cash in at a reasonable price then this deal wont happen.

They will get desperate the longer it goes on without anyone coming in for him, he has one year left on his contract and can then leave for nothing.

 

[HobbitSpur]

I just done get this at all, I don't see how he improves us or gets anywhere near the team. Alli, Eriksen, Son, Lamela would all start ahead of him, I'd say he is pretty similar to 3 of them, we need somebody with more pace and penetration imo. Maybe Poch thinks GKN will step up next year and provide that. Guess we'll have to trust the manager.

He has shown moments when he does run through defences, problem is the consistency. If Poch thinks he can do a job on him then I am all for him coming.

IMHO he has the potential, with the right guidance to become quite special.

The question is is he willing to put in the work to match his potential

 

[HobbitSpur]

Sure.... the problem is Everton want 50m

There is definitely huge potential in Barkley but its also clear that its far from guaranteed, in fact I would say the risk is high. We don't have the luxury of being able to throw millions around like other clubs so I feel unless Everton get desperate and need to cash in at a reasonable price then this deal wont happen.

Not a snow ball in hells chance. One year left on his contract. More chance in him signing a new contract at Everton than them selling him for circa 50 million

 

[Sweech]

I've a feeling he'd really frustrate us. After reading that Everton fans report I'm even more convinced that will be the case.

I just think he's not got a good footballing brain. He makes the wrong decisions a lot. But that could just be down to bad coaching. It's not like he's had the best managers working with him.

What gets me though is this guy is often high up in the table for players in chances created and key passes. Plus he's now got a few seasons of solid assist production showing that it's likely not just a fluke.

So if he makes poor decisions a lot he must be getting into amazing positions all the time to make a bunch of poor decisions plus enough good ones to be that high up the chances created charts.

 

[Pizza]

He seems to have a good combination of power and technical qualities. Reminds me a bit of Yaya Toure, obviously with less footballing nous.

If we brought him in, I'd like to think it's with a view to play a deeper midfield role. I don't think he's mobile enough to keep up with our attacking quartet (like Gylfi), but I think he has all the right assets to play Dembele's role, possibly with more scope too thanks to his superior passing range.

We still can't compete with the richer clubs for the top, premium talent, so we need to take punts like this. There's a lot to be skeptical about with Barkley, but the upside is huge.

 

[Clark28]

I've a feeling he'd really frustrate us. After reading that Everton fans report I'm even more convinced that will be the case.

They are probably half trying to convince themselves that they don't need him, the same thing is happening with some people in the Walker thread.

 

[Hoddle&Waddle]

They are probably half trying to convince themselves that they don't need him, the same thing is happening with some people in the Walker thread.

TBF the Everton fans have been saying this for the last few seasons, it's not some new thing because he's leaving.

 

[arunspurs]

Lamela out almost till end of the year...some here still disagree that we don't need bodies in midfield...

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/tottenham-facing-year-without-erik-10651012

 

[worcestersauce]

I think Everton fans thought he was going to be a real worldy when he broke through in his teens and are frustrated that he isn't the best player in the world by now, that doesn't mean he isn't very good, it more likely means that they are delusional about their club, they are scousers after all.