Saido Berahino

[Wellspurs]

I would be very happy with a young defoe!

Are you Arsene in disguise?

 

[Paolo10]

Berahino would have been an excellent signing and still would be.

Would love to see this transfer eventually come through.

 

[Mr Pink]

Good update Trix, cheers.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

No disrespect buddy but you have said the same thing about the same player in the same thread about a million times. Enough now mate please . I keep coming in here hoping we have news on saido and have to read the same stuff over and over

Come on, buddy. He's just responding to other posters, which is surely the point of a forum, is it not?

There's an ignore facility, so maybe that'd be the best idea for you, rather than asking someone to not voice their opinion?

No malice intended, so apologies if you took this post that way. COYS

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Although I think that chap as wrong about Berahino, you can see the talent and he's only likened to Defore because he's black, Poch had made mistakes in the market so we can't always believe it's the right call

Good grief, after my last post, I'm gonna sound like a right old lecturing tosser ..

Re the bold bit, Really? That's a bit out of order, no? It's almost an implication of racism, in my opinion, as it's suggesting that all black people look the same.

I think it's obvious that the Defoe comparison stems from the fact that,

1 : Berahino can't play upfront alone, or lead the line.

2 : He doesn't appear to be a consistent scorer, and only scores in batches (over the good 4 months he's had in his career so far).

3: He doesn't (yet) seem to be a particularly hard working player.

4 : He's somewhat greedy, and will try for glory, rather than make use of a better placed team-mate.

5 : His build & playing style are extremely similar to that of Defoe.

I'm sure there are more similarities, too, but hopefully I've made my point by now? It's absolutely nothing to do with colour, and is, in my opinion, everything to do with genuine similarities between the 2 players mentioned.

Defoe is no longer at our club for a reason, he doesn't suit the way we play. Some of us think the same about Berahino, and don't particularly rate him as a player but we have all stated that, if he's who Poch wants, and we do end up signing him, we'll support the lad 100% & hope he ends up a massive success.

I don't think any of us will have a problem being proven wrong if it means the club we love is benefitting from it.

 

[millsey]

Good grief, after my last post, I'm gonna sound like a right old lecturing tosser ..

Re the bold bit, Really? That's a bit out of order, no? It's almost an implication of racism, in my opinion, as it's suggesting that all black people look the same.

I think it's obvious that the Defoe comparison stems from the fact that,

1 : Berahino can't play upfront alone, or lead the line.

2 : He doesn't appear to be a consistent scorer, and only scores in batches (over the good 4 months he's had in his career so far).

3: He doesn't (yet) seem to be a particularly hard working player.

4 : He's somewhat greedy, and will try for glory, rather than make use of a better placed team-mate.

5 : His build & playing style are extremely similar to that of Defoe.

I'm sure there are more similarities, too, but hopefully I've made my point by now? It's absolutely nothing to do with colour, and is, in my opinion, everything to do with genuine similarities between the 2 players mentioned.

Defoe is no longer at our club for a reason, he doesn't suit the way we play. Some of us think the same about Berahino, and don't particularly rate him as a player but we have all stated that, if he's who Poch wants, and we do end up signing him, we'll support the lad 100% & hope he ends up a massive success.

I don't think any of us will have a problem being proven wrong if it means the club we love is benefitting from it.

You really haven't watched much of Berahino. What you describe is not how Berahnio plays. And he is not similar to Defoe in any way.
I have no idea why people keep saying he's the new Defoe!

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

You really haven't watched much of Berahino. What you describe is not how Berahnio plays. And he is not similar to Defoe in any way.
I have no idea why people keep saying he's the new Defoe!

You're right, I haven't watched "much" of Berahino (why would I? He doesn't play for the club I do watch) , and I simply described what I have seen on the occasions I have watched him.

All I offered was an explanation as to why I believe the comparison is made. That doesn't mean I am right, or believe I'm right. It just means I've been honest with you

 

[THFCSPURS19]

Good grief, after my last post, I'm gonna sound like a right old lecturing tosser ..

Re the bold bit, Really? That's a bit out of order, no? It's almost an implication of racism, in my opinion, as it's suggesting that all black people look the same.

I think it's obvious that the Defoe comparison stems from the fact that,

1 : Berahino can't play upfront alone, or lead the line.

2 : He doesn't appear to be a consistent scorer, and only scores in batches (over the good 4 months he's had in his career so far).

3: He doesn't (yet) seem to be a particularly hard working player.

4 : He's somewhat greedy, and will try for glory, rather than make use of a better placed team-mate.

5 : His build & playing style are extremely similar to that of Defoe.

I'm sure there are more similarities, too, but hopefully I've made my point by now? It's absolutely nothing to do with colour, and is, in my opinion, everything to do with genuine similarities between the 2 players mentioned.

Defoe is no longer at our club for a reason, he doesn't suit the way we play. Some of us think the same about Berahino, and don't particularly rate him as a player but we have all stated that, if he's who Poch wants, and we do end up signing him, we'll support the lad 100% & hope he ends up a massive success.

I don't think any of us will have a problem being proven wrong if it means the club we love is benefitting from it.

1. He can, and has lead the line.
2. We've talked about this before.
3. Have you really watched him that much? I doubt that most (including me) can conclusively say he doesn't work hard. I remember in their match against City this season, he definitely tracked back. Anyways, we wouldn't be interested in any player who is lazy.
4. Maybe so, but so is Kane. In fact, many players are like that, even the likes of Ronaldo so that's got nothing to do with Defoe.
5. Berahino is 5'11, Defoe is 5'7 1/2, not that similar at all. Although I concede that his finishing is similar to Defoe.

I've already mentioned my thoughts on the whole 'He's only compared to Defoe 'cause he's black' thing a while back, and it's not something I want to get into again, but in terms of the points you've made, I don't think what you've said is accurate and makes him similar to Defoe.

 

[millsey]

You're right, I haven't watched "much" of Berahino (why would I? He doesn't play for the club I do watch) , and I simply described what I have seen on the occasions I have watched him.

All I offered was an explanation as to why I believe the comparison is made. That doesn't mean I am right, or believe I'm right. It just means I've been honest with you

I haven't said you haven't been honest with me. Just people's(not yours) comparisons of Berahnio and Defoe are way off.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

1. He can, and has lead the line.
2. We've talked about this before.
3. Have you really watched him that much? I doubt that most (including me) can conclusively say he doesn't work hard. I remember in their match against City this season, he definitely tracked back. Anyways, we wouldn't be interested in any player who is lazy.
4. Maybe so, but so is Kane. In fact, many players are like that, even the likes of Ronaldo so that's got nothing to do with Defoe.
5. Berahino is 5'11, Defoe is 5'7 1/2, not that similar at all. Although I concede that his finishing is similar to Defoe.

I've already mentioned my thoughts on the whole 'He's only compared to Defoe 'cause he's black' thing a while back, and it's not something I want to get into again, but in terms of the points you've made, I don't think what you've said is accurate and makes him similar to Defoe.

Thank you for the polite (and eloquent) response, it's appreciated .. I think I answered most of your post in my last response to Millsey?

 

[danielneeds]

You really haven't watched much of Berahino. What you describe is not how Berahnio plays. And he is not similar to Defoe in any way.
I have no idea why people keep saying he's the new Defoe!

Probably because Berahino cited Defoe as someone he is a big fan of. Doesn't mean they play similar though - Defoe adored Ian Wright but they were vastly different too.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

I haven't said you haven't been honest with me. Just people's(not yours) comparisons of Berahnio and Defoe are way off.

Cheers fella. I guess I did at least explain myself, maybe the others could do the same & then their reasons for their opinion are much clearer for everyone to understand?

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Probably because Berahino cited Defoe as someone he is a big fan of. Doesn't mean they play similar though - Defoe adored Ian Wright but they were vastly different too.

Did he? I never knew that. Thank you, Daniel .. Did he say why he was/is a big fan of Defoe?

Genuine question, not trying to be awkward at all.

 

[ebzrascal]

You're right, I haven't watched "much" of Berahino (why would I? He doesn't play for the club I do watch) , and I simply described what I have seen on the occasions I have watched him.

All I offered was an explanation as to why I believe the comparison is made. That doesn't mean I am right, or believe I'm right. It just means I've been honest with you

I'm confused why would write such a detailed description and then admit have not watched him play? Seems kinda strange.. And as a football fan I watch matches especially our rivals..

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

I'm confused why would write such a detailed description and then admit have not watched him play? Seems kinda strange.. And as a football fan I watch matches especially our rivals..

Why are you confused? I very clearly stated that what I wrote was based solely upon what I'd seen of him. Heck, I even stated what I had seen of him was very little.

I guess the basic way of putting is, the times I've watched him, he hasn't particularly grafted, and has appeared rather greedy & didn't seem much of a team player. If he's shown those much needed traits in the games I haven't seen him playing in, I obviously couldn't acknowledge them because I wouldn't have seen them.

Berahino hasn't shown me personally anything to suggest he'd make much, if any difference to us. My opinion happens to be different to yours, but that's not a bad thing, and we both want what's best for the club at the end of the day.

 

[Sweech]

Even when you watch the Youtube highlights you an see Berahino doesn't play like Defoe...

For one thing Berahino goes for placement whereas Defoe just simply blasted it everytime.

 

[spurs9]

Good grief, after my last post, I'm gonna sound like a right old lecturing tosser ..

Re the bold bit, Really? That's a bit out of order, no? It's almost an implication of racism, in my opinion, as it's suggesting that all black people look the same.

I think it's obvious that the Defoe comparison stems from the fact that,

1 : Berahino can't play upfront alone, or lead the line.

2 : He doesn't appear to be a consistent scorer, and only scores in batches (over the good 4 months he's had in his career so far).

3: He doesn't (yet) seem to be a particularly hard working player.

4 : He's somewhat greedy, and will try for glory, rather than make use of a better placed team-mate.

5 : His build & playing style are extremely similar to that of Defoe.

I'm sure there are more similarities, too, but hopefully I've made my point by now? It's absolutely nothing to do with colour, and is, in my opinion, everything to do with genuine similarities between the 2 players mentioned.

Defoe is no longer at our club for a reason, he doesn't suit the way we play. Some of us think the same about Berahino, and don't particularly rate him as a player but we have all stated that, if he's who Poch wants, and we do end up signing him, we'll support the lad 100% & hope he ends up a massive success.

I don't think any of us will have a problem being proven wrong if it means the club we love is benefitting from it.

1. Yes he can and has. Last season 13 of his starts and 8 of his goals were playing as a lone striker.
2. He is 22 years old plating for a defensive team, he will have games without scoring. Also, it's not like he scores a bucket full of goals in 1 game, which scews his tally, he scored his 14 goals in 11 different games.
3. I have seen games where he works hard, in fact, I have seen him track back and tackle a player in his own box (I think it was v Man City in the first game of the season from memory).
4. So does Kane.
5. Neither is true, he is taller. He would be closer in build to Suarez than Defoe. the only part of his style that is similar to Defoe is his shooting technique, but even then Berahino seems to place it more. Berahino offers more movement and comes deeper more often.

 

[ebzrascal]

We play best with a striker who works hard, tracks back on defense, and holds the ball up and has the strength to stay on the ball and just enough pace to get an extra half yard from a decent angle to shoot. That is why Kane works so well in this team. It doesnt matter if he has much pace or not. Berahino's pace wouldnt make much difference in our system at striker. It would at AM, but we already have Son and N'Jie to inject pace from the AM position

Son is not very quick!! N`jie is probably out for the season!! So my view on this is Pace is the thing defenders fear most in football.. Look at Vardy this season an electric player who plays on the shoulder and scares people. Pace up top also means the opposition cannot take as much risks attacking us as they would need to worry about leaving too little cover at the back to deal with a quick player so the advantages are two fold..

 

[THFCSPURS19]

1. Yes he can and has. Last season 13 of his starts and 8 of his goals were playing as a lone striker.
2. He is 22 years old plating for a defensive team, he will have games without scoring. Also, it's not like he scores a bucket full of goals in 1 game, which scews his tally, he scored his 14 goals in 11 different games.
3. I have seen games where he works hard, in fact, I have seen him track back and tackle a player in his own box (I think it was v Man City in the first game of the season from memory).
4. So does Kane.
5. Neither is true, he is taller. He would be closer in build to Suarez than Defoe. the only part of his style that is similar to Defoe is his shooting technique, but even then Berahino seems to place it more. Berahino offers more movement and comes deeper more often.

This is literally the same as my post

 

[spurs9]

This is literally the same as my post

Mine was heaps better.