Satisfied with this window?

[Soulchan]

In

Ben Davies
Michel Vorm
Eric Dier
DeAndre Yedlin
Federico Fazio
Benjamin Stambouli

Out

Gylfi Sigurdsson
Jake Livermore
Iago Falque
Michael Dawson
Zeki Fryers
Sandro
...


Well obviously we missed Welbeck and he went to Arsenal. I thought LF signing was necessary. But.. Here we are. So are you satisfied?

 

[CJMurray]

No.

We've signed one player who should improve our starting X1 (Fazio) and didn't manage to secure Poch's key targets (Musacchio, Schneiderlin, Rodriguez). We flogged Holtby and Sandro and kept Lennon and Townsend.

 

[RuskyM]

our manager had three targets. he has got none of them. compare this to avb, who was desperate for moutinho...who he didn't get

i get we have to do an arsenal. i get we've got to keep the pennies pinched. but the only team in the league to spend less net than us is southampton, who were ripped apart this year. there is a big, big difference between us building a stadium at this point and arsenal building a stadium at the point they did: arsenal could remain competitive as they were already a successful side with a manager they trusted & knew the club and a youth system that was prosperous, meaning they could stay sufficient. we have none of this. we have no foundations & no security and a revolving door in head office. meaning we'll have to keep rolling over with squad signing after squad signing hoping they come up trumps, whereas if we'd just spent the fucking money on moutinho or cahill or schneiderlin or rodriguez or musacchio or aguero or llorente we might have a more settled side, as opposed to the group of strangers and stopgaps we saw on sunday. and then we hope the squad player turns out like bale or modric or berbatov, at which point we sell them. and bring in some players of a lower quality, all the while expecting to stay competitive at the top whilst having none of the resources or players available to do so.

unless poch goes above and beyond the call of duty, there's a big big chance we could be opening a wonderful new stadium with a mid-table team. some investment is needed - not just to assure poch that he's wanted but to fucking bring some life into this team

 

[TH1239]

Selling Holtby, Sigurdsson, and Sandro and only bringing in Stambouli is a downgrade as far as our midfield is concerned. Lennon and Townsend are two of the least effective wingers in the entire league, and having to rely on them in Europa League and other cup competitions is going to make advancing in the latter stages of those competitions very difficult if Poch insists on resting his top players for the league.

Fazio and Dier are both quality, value signings. Neither is anywhere near as good a RCB as Mussachio, who was fantastic yesterday against Barcelona for those who missed that game. Still, I think Fazio will be first choice next to Vertonghen after the international break.

I've made my feelings on Davies known for some time. I think he is ill suited for a system where the full back is required to make long runs and cross the ball with accuracy into the box. He also was the most dribbled player in the entire league last season. Alberto Moreno, as we saw first-hand yesterday, would've been a much better fit for the system we are playing, as he has far more pace and end product, but he also was a few million more pounds.

The thing that really could've changed my perception of the window was a LWF. It didn't have to be Griezmann or Depay (though they would've been perfect). Someone like Remy or even Konoplyanka would've greatly improved us. For whatever reason, we didn't make moves for them earlier in the window.

The onus is on Eriksen and Lamela to produce in a major way. If one of them get hurt, our creativity will suffer in a major way, especially if we insist on shelving a goal threat in Paulinho for ball recyclers and tacklers like Bentaleb/Stambouli.

 

[stemark44]

No.

We've signed one player who should improve our starting X1 (Fazio) and didn't manage to secure Poch's key targets (Musacchio, Schneiderlin, Rodriguez). We flogged Holtby and kept Lennon and Townsend.

The teams that have been interested in Holtby have been Fulham who were relegated and Hamburg who stayed up by the skin of their teeth.
At least Lennon is a step up because QPR and Stoke were interested in him.
Southampton are a step up again and are pretty equal to us,they wanted Townsend and were happy to pay £12m for him.

Which of these three players do you think we should keep and try and improve?

 

[Lilbaz]

I'll decide at the end of the season when we've actually seen what they can do.

 

[Hans Moleman]

Yes.

Brick by brick, It's a long process. We didn't sell any key players and strengthened our main weakness. Poch is a 'coach', I am excited to see how he can improve our players before we make any major adjustments. Top 4 was never a target for this season.

 

[CJMurray]

The teams that have been interested in Holtby have been Fulham who were relegated and Hamburg who stayed up by the skin of their teeth.
At least Lennon is a step up because QPR and Stoke were interested in him.
Southampton are a step up again and are pretty equal to us,they wanted Townsend and were happy to pay £12m for him.

Which of these three players do you think we should keep and try and improve?

Everton and Southampton were both interested in Holtby, but that's beside the point. There is a place in our squad for him. He's versatile, a fantastic presser and is probably our most incisive passer. I just don't understand moving him on, especially after the pre-season he had.

Lennon should have gone.
Townsend would have gone had we actually been offered the figures mooted. According to JJ anyway.

It's unfashionable to say at the moment, but i'm glad we kept Townsend. Sure he's had a few terrible games, but theres still a lot of potential in there, certainly more than Lennon.

 

[cookiemonster]

If liverpool or Arsenal have signed the above players

We will be laughing our heads off at them

 

[Twizzle]

why does everyone forget Yahaya ?

he was our first signing, not a top 25 player but still significant

 

[RuskyM]

the teams we're expecting to be competing with's incomings fwiw (won't include chelsea or city we're miles away)

arsenal: sanchez, debuchy, chambers, ospina, welbeck
liverpool: can, lallana, lambert, markovic, lovren, origi, moreno, balotelli
united: everyone in existence
everton: lukaku, besic, barry, eto'o, galloway

now ours look more than unimpressive. we really need poch to do a number on us

 

[stemark44]

Everton and Southampton were both interested in Holtby, but that's beside the point. There is a place in our squad for him. He's versatile, a fantastic presser and is probably our most incisive passer. I just don't understand moving him on, especially after the pre-season he had.

Lennon should have gone.
Townsend would have gone had we actually been offered the figures mooted. According to JJ anyway.

It's unfashionable to say at the moment, but i'm glad we kept Townsend. Sure he's had a few terrible games, but theres still a lot of potential in there, certainly more than Lennon.

Really agree with your last point about Townsend and Lennon really should be gone.
Sorry but I don't think Holtby is good enough either and I won't be upset when he leaves for good.

 

[RuskyM]

yeah holtby isn't good enough, no surprise that he's gone

 

[HobokenSpur]

Torn. I am glad that we seem to have a tighter policy on transfers, it's sad we missed on our targets, but what will be good is to see is we don't recycle next window and we legitimately improve positions... Let's give it 3 months. And btw watching spurs against the lower teams actually makes me think we'll get a higher pts total this year. I'd much rather lose to the top 4 and not draw against the bottom 4. All about the pts....

 

[marvel]

Nope. I'm happy we've addressed some defensive issues and got rid of some deadwood (can't make a judgement on Stambouli as know nothing about him) but there are other issues in our team we have failed to address further up the pitch while those around us have all strengthened or made marquee signings.

Poll would be good here btw

 

[spurs9]

In

Ben Davies
Michel Vorm
Eric Dier
DeAndre Yedlin
Federico Fazio
Benjamin Stambouli

Out

Gylfi Sigurdsson
Jake Livermore
Iago Falque
Michael Dawson
Zeki Fryers
Sandro
...


Well obviously we missed Welbeck and he went to Arsenal. I thought LF signing was necessary. But.. Here we are. So are you satisfied?

Ben Davies - We needed another LB but I don't think we got the right one. In Poch's system they need to be quick and he isn't.
Michel Vorm - Good signing, we now have a back up keeper that can play behind a high defensive line.
Eric Dier - Looks like a great signing, so far. I think if Kaboul doesn't improve and Dier continues how to grow, Kaboul will be gone at the end of the season and Dier will take his place in the CB 4 options.
DeAndre Yedlin - Lot's of pace, looks like he has good end product, needs to improve the defensive side of his game but I hear that is improving all of the time. Will be interesting to see how he is when we he arrives.
Federico Fazio - I look forward to seeing him in action. He will provide some much needed areal ability and strength (sick of seeing our CB's get bullied by oppo strikers) how ever there are question marks over his acceleration and speed of feet in getting in a tackle.
Benjamin Stambouli - Replacing Sandro, so big shoes to fill. Don't know much about the guy, but last season was his first full season (previous season's most mins played was less than Sandro's when he got injured half way through).

In regards to our outgoings, the only 2 I am bothered about are Sandro and Holtby. Considering how void of creativity we are at times, I find it worrying that we have loaned out our 3rd most creative player without replacing them.

Saying that, I think Arsenal had a worse window for replacing what they need. I think Welbeck will be a good signing for them but he isn't the striker they need. I also can't believe they didn't sign at least 1 CB, considering Chambers is 3rd choice. They also didn't get a DM.

Same with Man Utd, didn't bring in a CB, despite being low in numbers (especially for team that plays with 3 CB's). They even let one of their best youngsters at CB go out on loan.

 

[spurs9]

the teams we're expecting to be competing with's incomings fwiw (won't include chelsea or city we're miles away)

arsenal: sanchez, debuchy, chambers, ospina, welbeck
liverpool: can, lallana, lambert, markovic, lovren, origi, moreno, balotelli
united: everyone in existence
everton: lukaku, besic, barry, eto'o, galloway

now ours look more than unimpressive. we really need poch to do a number on us

arsenal: Haven't address their depth issues at CB (Only 2 first team players that are CB's as first position), didn't get a DM and didn't get the striker they needed.
united: Didn't address their CB issue's and don't have a proper right wing back.

 

[chinaman]

Satisfied? Being the insatiable type, never. I always want something extra. But overall, it's been a good window and let's hope we get Poch's targets next time.

 

[jolsnogross]

It's underwhelming and very defensive, and possibly does not include more than one first team player.

It's very possible that four of the five players we signed and are with us now could be outside the first 11. Davies, Vorm, Dier, and Stambouli might not get a first team place for the top matches....fazio probably will. Dier might well find himself on the bench if walker gets fit. Davies has not started out as first choice. I don't know anything about Stambouli, and will spare myself the youtube reel and wait till he plays more than a few matches for us. They may all add much needed depth to the squad, and overperform. Certainly Dier looks very useful.

If there is any disappointment, it's that we don't speculate or accumulate in forward positions as we do in defensive ones. I fear the better sides will beat us comfortably again this year, and we may find ourselves at the Southampton and Swansea level, well below those competing for the top six. A strict adherence to one striker is going to lead to a long old season. We're simply not dangerous enough going forward and unless Soldado turns it around, I reckon we'll be average.

But, it is a good test of Poch's mettle. There were many last year who said that a 'proper' manager would turn our ramshackle bunch into top 4 contenders. We'll find out if we can get into the top 6.

 

[arunspurs]

Yes & No

Yes - because we have addressed the problem - defense. We have revamped the entire back line - now just hope the new signings can deliver.

No - because of the perception that others have gone up another level and we haven't done enough to remain with them.

Had we signed Bony or even Welbeck or a promising wing forward on loan, situation could be different.

Now we have to rely on the group to deliver consistently & hope the new signings of other teams liek United, Arsenal,Everton & Liverpool would fail