Should Levy go for his part in the Super League... with a heavy heart I say yes.

[slartibartfast]

No. He did what he thought was right for the future of the club. If the ESL had gone ahead and we were offered a seat but didn't take ot he'd have been out as being incompetent.
Damned if he does, damned if he doesnt.
I do tjink there are 2 groups of clubs ro the ESL, the instigators and those fearful of being left behind. I think we fall into the latter..

 

[nidge]

He and Lewis both need to sell up and leave. Not only for their woeful part of the horrendous Super League idea but also because under his watch we had seen a decline on the footballing side. Going from a squad that was on the cusp of winning titles to a team struggling to even make it into European competition next season.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

No. He did what he thought was right for the future of the club. If the ESL had gone ahead and we were offered a seat but didn't take ot he'd have been out as being incompetent.
Damned if he does, damned if he doesnt.
I do tjink there are 2 groups of clubs ro the ESL, the instigators and those fearful of being left behind. I think we fall into the latter..

Exactly.

 

[TheRevolution]

No. He did what he thought was right for the future of the club. If the ESL had gone ahead and we were offered a seat but didn't take ot he'd have been out as being incompetent.
Damned if he does, damned if he doesnt.
I do tjink there are 2 groups of clubs ro the ESL, the instigators and those fearful of being left behind. I think we fall into the latter..

Thing is mate it didn't go ahead and was universally panned. None of these owners had the foresight for this and it just goes to show that they are out touch with what the football community actually wants.

Saying "if it had of went ahead and was successful" is like me investing my life savings in some dogshit company. "If" isn't good enough. If my aunty had balls she'd be my uncle.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

This place really is no fun with everyone constantly at eachother throats over something. I really is shit and it’s basically every thread. Ndombele, Enic, Mourinho, the team sheet threads, the ESL thread.

It actually mages me quite sad. I’ve been posting on here since I was almost 19, I’m about to turn 36 this summer, so almost half my life, I have a great deal of affection for this forum and several members on it. Since leaving London and seeing friend less regularly and being in a part of the world where I’m not likely to meet many Spurs fans, the site has become even more important to me. Spurs is a huge part of my life and, along with my father, the members of SC are the people with whom I get to share the Spurs experience most with, never truer than this past 13 months that I’ve not attended a single match having been ever present almost at home since I was in single digits.

But right now all this partisan nonsense and seeing no compromise anywhere, just a bunch of people who I’m sure in ordinary life are perfectly pleasant in the whole, being such dicks to when we’re all meant to be here for the same reason, well it’s ruining the place. I’m not innocent either, I accept that, but I’m trying to be more reasonable in my discussion even when my view is at the opposite end of the spectrum and I’m trying to tone down what I know to be my own bad habit of stretching to sarcasm and belittling an mockery.

We really shouldn’t be so angry at one another. There’s so much shit in the world to be angry about. Football is meant to be a source or entertainment. I don’t feel like anyone here is enjoying themselves.

 

[eViL]

I don't feel it's been a football club for ages. Worst of all we pay the most expensive season ticket in world football to try and get top four every year. It is still broken even after tonight's reversal

Are you a season ticket holder?

 

[eViL]

This was one of the biggest f-ups in english football history and Levy put his name to it.
It is embarrassing for him, the club and joe lewis.
We now have to hope that he wasn't totally relying on that money this summer, and has an acceptable plan B.

I'm also not happy about him sacking the manager a week before a final of sorts. It might be a great relief for some fans and players but it has not helped our chances.

Also he has failed to get sponsorship of the stadium - that was the main point of building the thing from scratch. He has miscalculated. And the minor sponsors he did attract last week were openly mocking the club. Is that the best we can do?

He should be accountable for these errors.

It was an idea, that resulted in an overreactionled by Sky and UEFA, two of the greediest organisations ever to exist.

An idea.

Calm down, the lot of you.

 

[The Scarecrow]

No. As much as I personally am against the Super League, I don't see how Levy had much choice. He was essentially bullied into this by the big boys. You either join us or face a lifetime of irrelevancy.

 

[Russ1201]

I think all those chairmen involved, including Levy, should resign for their part in this BS secretive scheme carried out without any input from the fans and consideration of their views.

Trouble is Levy hands are tied by Joe Lewis, doesn't matter if Levy goes as we would still have Lewis managing the purse strings.

 

[JCRD]

He didnt have much choice and didnt think he should leave but the statement yesterday and lack of apology to the fans is something that leaves a sour taste. It is as if he is so far out of touch with the fans and made me wonder this morning - what the fuck is the point if there is no respect to the fans. Im about to spend 1500 quid on 19 games and i have this guy showing a bit of disregard.

If this was any other business or if your employers did something that perhaps showed disregard for you and your time and hard work - youd see it as a slap in the face.

I was always pro levy but ive lost quite a bit of respect in how out of touch he is with the fans.

 

[KingKay]

He and Lewis both need to sell up and leave. Not only for their woeful part of the horrendous Super League idea but also because under his watch we had seen a decline on the footballing side. Going from a squad that was on the cusp of winning titles to a team struggling to even make it into European competition next season.

Not sure history is your strong point?

 

[Albertbarich]

He isn't going anywhere so best we can hope for is the government introduce this 50+1 model.

If they sell it would no doubt be to an investment company who would pay for it by leveraging debt against the club . Nobody wants that.

I see rumours of a sporting director model coming. That would be good. Levy shouldn't be making football decisions but that director needs ownership of that side of things not to be a levy puppet and the fact that were approaching managers before employing one says he won't have ownership.

 

[Stamford]

Are you a season ticket holder?

of course

 

[brasil_spur]

This place really is no fun with everyone constantly at eachother throats over something. I really is shit and it’s basically every thread. Ndombele, Enic, Mourinho, the team sheet threads, the ESL thread.

It actually mages me quite sad. I’ve been posting on here since I was almost 19, I’m about to turn 36 this summer, so almost half my life, I have a great deal of affection for this forum and several members on it. Since leaving London and seeing friend less regularly and being in a part of the world where I’m not likely to meet many Spurs fans, the site has become even more important to me. Spurs is a huge part of my life and, along with my father, the members of SC are the people with whom I get to share the Spurs experience most with, never truer than this past 13 months that I’ve not attended a single match having been ever present almost at home since I was in single digits.

But right now all this partisan nonsense and seeing no compromise anywhere, just a bunch of people who I’m sure in ordinary life are perfectly pleasant in the whole, being such dicks to when we’re all meant to be here for the same reason, well it’s ruining the place. I’m not innocent either, I accept that, but I’m trying to be more reasonable in my discussion even when my view is at the opposite end of the spectrum and I’m trying to tone down what I know to be my own bad habit of stretching to sarcasm and belittling an mockery.

We really shouldn’t be so angry at one another. There’s so much shit in the world to be angry about. Football is meant to be a source or entertainment. I don’t feel like anyone here is enjoying themselves.

Agreed, it's nuts. Can only assume it's a sign of the current younger generation who have grown up online rather than in the real world and don't understand the consequences of a shit attitude because they can hide behind keyboards. I like a good discussion / debate on here as much as the next person, but it's crazy how inflammatory some people get on this forum. With this issue there's basically two sides of a very similar coin that you can come down on:

Side 1: It was an impossible situation where Levy was damned if he did and damned if he didn't. After the clubs finances have been decimated by COVID Levy made a tough choice in the best interest of the long term future of the football club and decided to join the ESL.

Side 2: It was an impossible situation where Levy was damned if he did and damned if he didn't. Despite the clubs finances having been decimated by COVID Levy made a tough choice in the best interest of the long term future of the football club and decided not to join the ESL.

Anything else is just hyperbole and virtue signalling.

However Sky, the media, some pundits and Boris the **** Johnson have whipped people into a frenzy to get some much needed click baits and distractions away from their own shit behaviour and for some reason people are coming down on the ESL like it was founded by a cartel of Hitler, Jimmy Saville and the Devil.

 

[shelfboy68]

I just received a text message from a friend who has forwarded on information from an agent of one of the players.
Now as always salt intake and all that but not good regarding levy is all I can say.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

He isn't going anywhere so best we can hope for is the government introduce this 50+1 model.

If they sell it would no doubt be to an investment company who would pay for it by leveraging debt against the club . Nobody wants that.

I see rumours of a sporting director model coming. That would be good. Levy shouldn't be making football decisions but that director needs ownership of that side of things not to be a levy puppet and the fact that were approaching managers before employing one says he won't have ownership.

I agree with most of what you say.

We don’t actually know how he’s handling either the managerial vacancy or the sporting director situation, but I’m not sure the sporting director should be brought in first or that this person necessarily should be involved in choosing a manager... to my mind the SD/ DOF isn’t there to be the manager’s boss, he’s there to complement the manager by helping the team develop in the manager’s vision, not the manager trying to implement the DoF’s vision.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

It was an idea, that resulted in an overreactionled by Sky and UEFA, two of the greediest organisations ever to exist.

An idea.

Calm down, the lot of you.

An idea my arse, it was more than that, much more. It was a blatant attempt to make football a money making machine to the exclusion of the rest of football.

So the anger felt and expressed by football fans pretty much all over Europe, if not the world, fans, players, managers, pundits, journalists, everyone, all of that was driven by Sky and UEFA. Nothing to do with the rampant self serving desires of a handful of men getting a reaction that says we won't suffer it.

So I don't think I will calm down. Levy can do one and doing it yesterday would have been nice.

 

[roy@SC]

I just received a text message from a friend who has forwarded on information from an agent of one of the players.
Now as always salt intake and all that but not good regarding levy is all I can say.

Care to summarise?

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Care to summarise?

If it's the (lengthy) one I received, i'm not sure i'd trust it too much as credible as some of it sounds

Basically........Jose and Shortround falling out, Levy wanting too much control, wanting him to play Dele, Bergwijn and Bale, (Dele & Bergwijn transfer values dropping) ordering Jose to play his 'strongest' team tonight, Jose telling Levy we'll never win anything because priorities are in the wrong place, we have a fantastic business but a poor team. Jose telling Kane and Son they have to leave if they want to win things but if they do, Levy will be a **** about it and so on and so forth.

 

[Lifelong]

I just received a text message from a friend who has forwarded on information from an agent of one of the players.
Now as always salt intake and all that but not good regarding levy is all I can say.

I received a very similar text last night as well along the same lines...wasn’t great reading or that much of a shock to be fair.....if even partly right. Nothing was mentioned about him leaving it was along the lines of more interest in the financials than the football before anyone asks but as you say, lots of salt...