Spurs players at Euro 2016

[danielneeds]

After last night, I think Kane will find it hard to get back into the starting 11 for this tournament. I think it's a little unfair as he has had fuck all service, but he has been invisible. Alli I also think has been urimarkable, it's a shame that they both couldn't explode onto the international scene as we would have liked. But it's nice to see the other three Spurs players bringing it.

Let's face it, it's probably a blessing in disguise that Kane hasn't exploded in the tournament, the last thing we need is Real Madrid and others focusing all their lust on him.

 

[tiger666]

Let's face it, it's probably a blessing in disguise that Kane hasn't exploded in the tournament, the last thing we need is Real Madrid and others focusing all their lust on him.

^

Perfectly happy for him to take a back seat, get a rest and let others attract attention personally. He's still only 22, not as though it's his only chance at international glory.

 

[buttons]

I think we'd be a little foolish to drop Kane altogether, i think him and Sturridge should start the next game with Raheem dropping out. Vardy got his goal but his threat is nullified, to a point, against teams who sit so deep - like Wales did and like Slovakia probably will. He'll be more use later in the tournament against say a Spain where we'll be pegged back a little more.

Sure Kane hasn't been great so far but i think he'd have got much closer to getting on the end of one of the 953 crosses we put into the box in the second half yesterday.

As for the other Spurs lads, Alli has been decent (says a lot about how Hodgson views him that Lalana was hooked instead of him yesterday) but the other three have been exceptional. Dier just oozes class, what a talent and the full backs, relentless.

 

[teddy_sheringham_125]

That flick by Alli for the goal - I've heard nobody talking about it (apart from Wright), but amongst all those players it was sublime.

 

[mil1lion]

To be fair to Walker for those criticising his delivery he didn't exactly have much to aim for. Wales flooded the box at every opportunity. He could ahve put several good crosses into the box and they would have been headed clear. I think he was often looking for some clever movement that never came. You can't just cross the ball into a crowded box all the time. I like that he tries cut balls back to oncoming midfielders and mix it up.

 

[sunnydelight786]

Yes I agree the system has not helped Kane or the service he has got, but when he's been on the ball he has been woeful. His free-kicks/corners have been shocking and his general hold up/link up play has nowhere been as good as it's been playing for us. He is losing his place in the first eleven for good reason. Let's try and not be bias here for once!!!

 

[FreddieYid]

Agree with the above. Had it have been Vardy or Sturrige playing like that and keeping Harry out the team, everyone would have been saying Hodgson was an idiot for sticking with them.

He's not had great service, but...
He's not played well and looked sluggish. As a forward, if you're isolated and getting no service, you've got to go and try and make things happen yourself.

I think he can be excused given the amount of football he's played, and yet there are still morons on here that want him to start every league and CL game next season.

 

[spursgirls]

That flick by Alli for the goal - I've heard nobody talking about it (apart from Wright), but amongst all those players it was sublime.

Been saying exactly the same thing. Alli did brilliantly to get the ball to Sturridge, but where's the praise for that? Nowhere it seems. But it was a beautiful pass under pressure and he should receive the credit due to him.

 

[NEVILLEB]

I feel very sorry for him.

This should be the highlight of his career so far and he doesn't have the energy to perform. Crazy to send him to U21 tournament last summer.

 

[Spurs 1961]

A game off starting for Harry would not be bad at all. If England are going to go further in the Euros then Harry will be needed later; right now he looks jaded

 

[NEVILLEB]

Tiger666 thinks it's fine to make a younger striker play one season, then be called up to an U21 summer tournament, then play an entire season as a lone striker with no one in the squad to relieve him and then call him up to the Euro 2016.

He doesn't think players often pick up serious injuries when they are tired and many our England's best strikers have been past their best in their late twenties because the premier league is so demanding and their bodies have crumbled.

If you truly supported the club you'd want to preserve Kane's long term future and you'd want him to thrive in the Euro's because he's earned the opportunity by playing so well at Spurs.

Idiot.

 

[tiger666]

Tiger666 thinks it's fine to make a younger striker play one season, then called up to an U21 summer tournament, then play an entire season as a lone striker with no one in the squad to relieve him and then call him up to the Euro 2016.

He doesn't think players often pick up serious injuries when they are tired and many our England's best strikers have been past their best in their late twenties because the premier league is so demanding and their bodies have crumbled.

If you truly supported the club you'd want to preserve Kane's long term future and you'd want him to thrive in the Euro's because he's earned the opportunity by playing so well at Spurs.

Idiot.

Shut up you clown

You keep banging on about Spurs ruining him because he's played so much and at the same time wanting him to do well at the Euros so he plays even more. Make your mind up.

 

[Lilbaz]

I feel very sorry for him.

This should be the highlight of his career so far and he doesn't have the energy to perform. Crazy to send him to U21 tournament last summer.

Said before, the u21's should be the same year as the seniors.

 

[NEVILLEB]

Shut up you clown

You keep banging on about Spurs ruining him because he's played so much and at the same time wanting him to do well at the Euros so he plays even more. Make your mind up.

You are incredibly thick.

Too easy.

 

[thefierycamel]

Lewandowski hasn't done much tbh and he's meant to be the best or second best striker in the world. Players have shit games, it happens. He'll get a rest during the next game and depending on how things go should be back competing for his place in the round of 16 +.

 

[Shea]

I think Kane has been hung out to dry by Roy Hodgson's inability to set the team out correctly with a balanced attack

Kane was completely isolated against Russia and the first half against Wales

He had no clear cut or even half chances created for him in 135 mins of football and his only efforts were self made long shot half chances and difficult range free kicks

Hodgson's insistance on playing Sterling AND Llanna caused this in my opinion, the wing backs were inhibited by their presence and neither were setting up Kane

Rooney, for everyone's wankfest of him playing like the rebirth of Scholes, continiously slows the pace of the attack and allows the deep lying opposition defence to contain Kane with no space for him to run in to or create opportunities for himself or even find space to be presented with a chance by a team mate

No way should Sterling and Llanna both be on the field at the same time, either Vardy or Sturridge should have been played instead of Sterling from the start, this would have given some support for Kane and enabled him to show what he can do (other than the tireless work he has still been doing running the channels and coming deep to link play and create chances for attacking midfielders with through balls)

I feel sorry for him, had he been on the field second half with the rearranged attacking line I have no doubt he'd have done as well if not better than Vardy or Sturridge, they just benefitted from Roy correcting his on mistake and Kane is taking the flack for Roy's error while he basks in the glory of having corrected it

Sterling has been the worst player for England - yet all I hear in the media is how Harry Kane is too tired and out of form etc etc (very little said about how poor Sterling has been by comparison)

I know as a striker you're judge by the goals you score (or don't score) but Kane has been set up to fail by a wotless manager who somehow escapes any blame and is congratulated for his tactical decisions which only truly correct the terrible error he made in the first place.

I worry what this disappointment will do for Kane's mentality and moral. Will he believe the media reports that suggest Poch's 100% effort pressing style has left him fatigued and affected his international career? Could that have an impact on his being content at the club or will he start to question if he needs to move away to a club that can not only give him the chance to regularly compete for honours but also leave him better placed to have a successful international career?

Hopefully he can do what the other two have done now and make an impact of the bench and get a few positive headlines to compensate for the disappointment of the start of his tournament career. With Rashford playing so well off the bench and Vardy and Sturride both scoring though, I worry he might be very limited in game tiime opportunities even off the bench now

 

[NEVILLEB]

I think Kane has been hung out to dry by Roy Hodgson's inability to set the team out correctly with a balanced attack

Kane was completely isolated against Russia and the first half against Wales

He had no clear cut or even half chances created for him in 135 mins of football and his only efforts were self made long shot half chances and difficult range free kicks

Hodgson's insistance on playing Sterling AND Llanna caused this in my opinion, the wing backs were inhibited by their presence and neither were setting up Kane

Rooney, for everyone's wankfest of him playing like the rebirth of Scholes, continiously slows the pace of the attack and allows the deep lying opposition defence to contain Kane with no space for him to run in to or create opportunities for himself or even find space to be presented with a chance by a team mate

No way should Sterling and Llanna both be on the field at the same time, either Vardy or Sturridge should have been played instead of Sterling from the start, this would have given some support for Kane and enabled him to show what he can do (other than the tireless work he has still been doing running the channels and coming deep to link play and create chances for attacking midfielders with through balls)

I feel sorry for him, had he been on the field second half with the rearranged attacking line I have no doubt he'd have done as well if not better than Vardy or Sturridge, they just benefitted from Roy correcting his on mistake and Kane is taking the flack for Roy's error while he basks in the glory of having corrected it

Sterling has been the worst player for England - yet all I hear in the media is how Harry Kane is too tired and out of form etc etc (very little said about how poor Sterling has been by comparison)

I know as a striker you're judge by the goals you score (or don't score) but Kane has been set up to fail by a wotless manager who somehow escapes any blame and is congratulated for his tactical decisions which only truly correct the terrible error he made in the first place.

I worry what this disappointment will do for Kane's mentality and moral. Will he believe the media reports that suggest Poch's 100% effort pressing style has left him fatigued and affected his international career? Could that have an impact on his being content at the club or will he start to question if he needs to move away to a club that can not only give him the chance to regularly compete for honours but also leave him better placed to have a successful international career?

Hopefully he can do what the other two have done now and make an impact of the bench and get a few positive headlines to compensate for the disappointment of the start of his tournament career. With Rashford playing so well off the bench and Vardy and Sturride both scoring though, I worry he might be very limited in game tiime opportunities even off the bench now

I don't think he'll hold a grudge but he will know that our failure to sign a back up last summer has contributed to his Euro failure.

He must also take responsibility for going to the U21 tournament last summer which was a ridiculous decision given the importance to be fresh for Euro 2016. Poch didn't want him to go.

 

[Shea]

I don't think he'll hold a grudge but he will know that our failure to sign a back up last summer has contributed to his Euro failure.

He must also take responsibility for going to the U21 tournament last summer which was a ridiculous decision given the importance to be fresh for Euro 2016. Poch didn't want him to go.

It potentially highlights the need for us to ensure we are well covered in that area moving on to next season (with a CL campaign to contend with to boot)

I still think we need a player who can cover Kane AND a player who can play both uptop and in one or both of the WF role (unless Son and N'Jie step up massively this year)

 

[NEVILLEB]

It potentially highlights the need for us to ensure we are well covered in that area moving on to next season (with a CL campaign to contend with to boot)

I still think we need a player who can cover Kane AND a player who can play both uptop and in one or both of the WF role (unless Son and N'Jie step up massively this year)

Both his inclusion in the U21 squad and our failure to provide him with a back up were stupid.

Amazingly we got by last season until the final few games but he is now exhausted and the impact of those two decisions has ruined his tournament.

Let's hope he doesn't pick up a serious injury and we get the striker support he needs for next season.

A longer summer holiday will help him.

You don't buy a Ferrari and then run it into the ground. We need to look after him.

Pretty obvious except to Tiger666!

 

[Shea]

Both his inclusion in the U21 squad and our failure to provide him with a back up were stupid.

Amazingly we got by last season until the final few games but he is now exhausted and the impact of those two decisions has ruined his tournament.

Let's hope he doesn't pick up a serious injury and we get the striker support he needs for next season.

A longer summer holiday will help him.

You don't buy a Ferrari and then run it into the ground. We need to look after him.

I still think he'd be ok to play to his best now had Roy Hodgson not started with Sterling and Llanna either side of him

What chances were presented to Harry in one and a half games of football?

Personally I think his general play was still as good as ever and I also feel that had he been up top when Sturridge and Vardy were introduced and we suddenly had alternatives for the opposition to worry about in the final third and create some space then Kane would have been back doing what he does best (scoring)

Vardy and Sturridge didn't exactly play great - they just profited from the Welsh defence being stretched by England's change in formation. Had either been up top alone against Russia I doubt they could have performed any better than Kane did