Spurs players at Euro 2016

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Wimmer not starting again, wow seems 4th choice CB for Austria behind even Prodl, very poor player needs to get a loan or needs to be sold. He's obviously not our level.

Yeah, not our level at all, apart from when he filled in for Vertonghen for almost 2 months & was superb.

You're a dick!

 

[greaves]

Wimmer not starting again, wow seems 4th choice CB for Austria behind even Prodl, very poor player needs to get a loan or needs to be sold. He's obviously not our level.

Jari. Jari. Give it a rest. You are not best placed to talk about levels.

 

[FreddieYid]

Wimmer not starting again, wow seems 4th choice CB for Austria behind even Prodl, very poor player needs to get a loan or needs to be sold. He's obviously not our level.

Tomorrow Harry will probably be behind Sturridge and Vardy, so we should sell him too.

 

[Col_M]

His much did we sell Vlad for? He must be worth at least £100,000 by now.

 

[mark87]

Wimmer not starting again, wow seems 4th choice CB for Austria behind even Prodl, very poor player needs to get a loan or needs to be sold. He's obviously not our level.

WHAT?

 

[RicOfPeace]

we looked better with Wimmer & Toby defensively than Jan & Toby... Some people

 

[Vwbottom]

Think Kane is suffering from the England poster boy curse, aside from that he's got LLama and Sterling playing with him...... Poor guy, didn't stand a chance. Hopefully he'll come on later when Vardy and Sturridge don't provide the goods

 

[nicdic]

Think Kane is suffering from the England poster boy curse, aside from that he's got LLama and Sterling playing with him...... Poor guy, didn't stand a chance. Hopefully he'll come on later when Vardy and Sturridge don't provide the goods

He's suffering from a manager picking a system that's designed to shoehorn Rooney into the team as a passenger in midfield at the expense of any attacking fluidity or clear shape.

As long as Hodgson persists with this we'll struggle, regardless of whoever the striker(s) are.

Team should have been built around Kane and Alli, and instead he's built it around Rooney playing as a deep lying playmaker. Mental.

 

[not_tenth-again]

He's suffering from a manager picking a system that's designed to shoehorn Rooney into the team as a passenger in midfield at the expense of any attacking fluidity or clear shape.

As long as Hodgson persists with this we'll struggle, regardless of whoever the striker(s) are.

Team should have been built around Kane and Alli, and instead he's built it around Rooney playing as a deep lying playmaker. Mental.

England has a long list of managers who don't know how to build a team.... I'm not surprised in the slightest.

See foot, shoot foot, it's standard procedure when it comes to managing the national team. It's no different to the Gerrard/Lampard scenario. Any serious football team would have been built around Paul Scholes and the other two could fit in where needed.... or not, as should have been the case.

 

[FreddieYid]

Wimmer not starting again, wow seems 4th choice CB for Austria behind even Prodl, very poor player needs to get a loan or needs to be sold. He's obviously not our level.

Gotta be a wind up?

 

[greaves]

Gotta be a wind up?

Regular as... clockwork.

 

[kremlyn]

Dier is England's most impressive player. He's dictating everything. He's the midfield general every side dreams of. He's ours. We're so fing lucky.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

Dier has bee very steady this tournament but tonight he unleashed his inner Pirlo, didn't know he had that range of passing on him. I guess by the end he was not being pressed at all but even so, very impressive performance from him. As for Alli add Kane, i feel both are just not quite on it. Nether have been great in the last three games, I just hope they can step up in the next round because at the moment they are not really bringing anything to the table. Love them both, but I wonder if the pressure is getting to them a little bit, they have both been hyped to the moon.

 

[Cheltenham Spur]

While I accept that Kane and Alli haven't hit the heights they're capable of, I think that the lack of clear thinking from the coach has a lot to do with it.

At Spurs they know exactly what they need to be doing. For England it looks like a bunch of blokes chucked together for a kick about in the park.

 

[FreddieYid]

While I accept that Kane and Alli haven't hit the heights they're capable of, I think that the lack of clear thinking from the coach has a lot to do with it.

At Spurs they know exactly what they need to be doing. For England it looks like a bunch of blokes chucked together for a kick about in the park.

Goes to show how much difference great coaching and a defined style of play can make, just look at the Italians.

Danny Rose said recently, that until Poch arrived, he hadn't actually had a manager that worked specifically on his game. Amazing really.

We had AvB who strangled the life out of the team, with tactics and Harry who is a motivator and man manager.

Coaching and working on individuals games, results in improved players... Who would have thought?!

 

[nicdic]

Dier has bee very steady this tournament but tonight he unleashed his inner Pirlo, didn't know he had that range of passing on him. I guess by the end he was not being pressed at all but even so, very impressive performance from him. As for Alli add Kane, i feel both are just not quite on it. Nether have been great in the last three games, I just hope they can step up in the next round because at the moment they are not really bringing anything to the table. Love them both, but I wonder if the pressure is getting to them a little bit, they have both been hyped to the moon.

The disagree was on your points regarding Alli and Kane. The whole set up is what's negating them. This weird 4-3-3 is causing us so many problems. Yes, the defences sitting deep has an impact, but this formation/system whatever is proving a nightmare for our strikers. And it's all been done to shoehorn Rooney into the team. We need to go back to the 4-2-3-1 we used all the way up to the post season friendlies. If we're gonna play Rooney in central midfield, we need to play him in a two, if he can't do that he needs to be dropped.

 

[rabbikeane]

. And it's all been done to shoehorn Rooney into the team..

Rooney's had a good individual tournament, but he also makes at least three other players in the line up worse

 

[nicdic]

Rooney's had a good individual tournament, but he also makes at least three other players in the line up worse

I'm not so sure that he has. I think he's being given a free pass by people because he's playing in a different position. He's not doing anywhere near enough. You're completely right about pushing others out of position, but it's worse than that too as it's changed the entire shape of the team.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

I'm not so sure that he has. I think he's being given a free pass by people because he's playing in a different position. He's not doing anywhere near enough. You're completely right about pushing others out of position, but it's worse than that too as it's changed the entire shape of the team.

Got to agree. Both before & during the tournament, the team has looked & played better when Rooney has been absent from it.