Spurs U21’s, U18’s and other youth news – 2015/16 Edition

[THFCSPURS19]

But if we'd kept him, he could have played in the cup games and if he did well in them could have forced his way into the EPL squads etc.

The loan to West Brom was ridiculous, we could all see that instantly. A terrible fit. More understandable if he'd gone somewhere that looked logical. But that didn't at all.

Pritchard chose West Brom. Not Pochettino. Not Levy. Pritchard.

Just to pick up on this point, which I forgot, KWP had excellent games and didn't look physically out of place at all in those Australian games.

I disagree. Not much more I can say.

 

[tonyc]

Pritchard chose West Brom. Not Pochettino. Not Levy. Pritchard.

Mate, do you know if any other club was on 'offer' to Pritch, coz I guess if only the Baggies or maybe the bench here, many (?) here might have chosen WBA.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

Mate, do you know if any other club was on 'offer' to Pritch, coz I guess if only the Baggies or maybe the bench here, many (?) here might have chosen WBA.

Burnley, who are top of the Championship.

 

[chrissivad]

Mate, do you know if any other club was on 'offer' to Pritch, coz I guess if only the Baggies or maybe the bench here, many (?) here might have chosen WBA.

there was reports at least 1 of the Championship clubs wanted him. Can't recall who it was

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Pritchard chose West Brom. Not Pochettino. Not Levy. Pritchard.



I disagree. Not much more I can say.

You think if Pochettino had said I want you to stay here and be part of the first team squad, play in the cup games etc he'd have chosen to go anywhere ?

I doubt very much Pritchard was sitting there one day and thought "Wouldn't it be great if I could fuck off and sit on West Brom's bench and watch them play scintillating possession based attacking football that will really suit my game".

 

[THFCSPURS19]

You think if Pochettino had said I want you to stay here and be part of the first team squad, play in the cup games etc he'd have chosen to go anywhere ?

I doubt very much Pritchard was sitting there one day and thought "Wouldn't it be great if I could fuck off and sit on West Brom's bench and watch them play scintillating possession based attacking football that will really suit my game".

I think Pochettino said to him that he could stay, but be back of the queue to start with, or he could choose to go somewhere on loan, where he'd get more game time. Unfortunately, Pritchard chose to go on loan, and it backfired.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

I think Pochettino said to him that he could stay, but be back of the queue to start with, or he could choose to go somewhere on loan, where he'd get more game time. Unfortunately, Pritchard chose to go on loan, and it backfired.

Where are you getting that from ?

 

[IGSpur]

Veljkovic didn't leave because we didn't give academy players a chance in general, he left because Poch specifically didn't like him, which is different.

Trix said Poch rated him and wanted him to play him. I prefer that line as I can't imagine a manager who wouldn't

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Trix said Poch rated him and wanted him to play him. I prefer that line as I can't imagine a manager who wouldn't

That's right isn't it, in the end he couldn't play him because of the contract situation, but if he'd kept him and played him the first year (instead of packing him off on loan and buying Fazio - and he'd already played Veljkovic in pre season and he'd done well) maybe he'd have signed a contract.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

Where are you getting that from ?

It's an educated guess. No one can know what truly happened.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

It's an educated guess. No one can know what truly happened.

If true, it just re-enforces my point. He shouldn't have been saying anything that negative to Pritchard. He should have been telling him that he's paid his dues, earned his right to be part of the first team group and he'll be getting cup games and sub minutes for the latter half of the season.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

If true, it just re-enforces my point. He shouldn't have been saying anything that negative to Pritchard. He should have been telling him that he's paid his dues, earned his right to be part of the first team group and he'll be getting cup games and sub minutes for the latter half of the season.

And what should he have said to the players like Son, Chadli and Onomah and others like Mason and Carroll who can play in his position but don't play much? Why should they be behind Pritchard after a long absence?

 

[Spursidol]

http://udinese.it/portal/IT/handle/?hil&page=redazione_udinesechannel
E u15's playing at moment - bottom right on the page.

First of 3 games v Italy, Qatar and Russia in a friendly tournament in Italy (.Tournament Delle Nazioni)

April 24th vs Italy
April 26th vs Qatar
April 27th vs Russia

Squad ?

1. Luca Ashby-Hammond
2. Dylan Crowe
3. Bukayo Saka
4. Elijah Dixon-Bonner
5. Nathaniel Ogbeta
6. Faustino Anjorin
7. Luis Longstaff
8. Tommy Doyle
9. Rayhaan Tulloch
10. Dan Cashman
11. Xavier Amaechi
12. Bali Mumba
13. Joshua Oluwayemi (Spurs)
14. Curtis Jones
15. Tareiq Shihab
16. Zico Asare
17. Arvin Appiah
18. Fabio Sole
19. Bobby Duncan
20. Trae Coyle

I'm surprised there are nopt more Spurs players in the squad, but at this level the FA are trying out a big pool of players (often 60+ players)

 

[Bus-Conductor]

And what should he have said to the players like Son, Chadli and Onomah and others like Mason and Carroll who can play in his position but don't play much? Why should they be behind Pritchard after a long absence?

Why should he have to say anything to them ? They wouldn't automatically be behind Pritchard, but Chadli for example clearly isn't a good fit for Pochettino's system and neither Mason or Carroll are anything like Pritchard or real rivals for his positions (AML, AMR, AMC), both considered more as CM's these days.

I think Pritchard offers more than Chadli, has more senior experience (and produced while doing it) than NjIe and is at least as talented and hard working as Son.

 

[kd2000]

Burnley, who are top of the Championship.

Akso i heard middlesbrough also wanted him

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

Why should he have to say anything to them ? They wouldn't automatically be behind Pritchard, but Chadli for example clearly isn't a good fit for Pochettino's system and neither Mason or Carroll are anything like Pritchard or real rivals for his positions (AML, AMR, AMC), both considered more as CM's these days.

I think Pritchard offers more than Chadli, has more senior experience (and produced while doing it) than NjIe and is at least as talented and hard working as Son.

And yet, it appears Poch, who sees them train every day, does not see it the same way. Go figure...

I don't know who is "better" or who works "harder" or who is a better fit tactically - but I trust that Poch is the right person to make that evaluation.

This whole pissing match about whether Poch values our HG players is madness. We have been blessed with a relatively injury-free season - with the one significant injury handled by Wimmer rather than CCV, Look at some of the injuries the other clubs have suffered and you understand why they have given minutes to youth players - they had to.

Poch sees all these guys in training - he knows where they are, and when they will be ready for games. Getting some minutes in early cup games is not going to make or break their careers.

 

[muppetman]

hi guys, i just uploaded an edwards comp, enjoy

Just saw this posted by @thfcacademy on twitter - is that you? Either way it's a very decent compilation.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

And yet, it appears Poch, who sees them train every day, does not see it the same way. Go figure...

I don't know who is "better" or who works "harder" or who is a better fit tactically - but I trust that Poch is the right person to make that evaluation.

This whole pissing match about whether Poch values our HG players is madness. We have been blessed with a relatively injury-free season - with the one significant injury handled by Wimmer rather than CCV, Look at some of the injuries the other clubs have suffered and you understand why they have given minutes to youth players - they had to.

Poch sees all these guys in training - he knows where they are, and when they will be ready for games. Getting some minutes in early cup games is not going to make or break their careers.

The "now" is wonderful, but the future is vital too.

This isn't just about playing kids we produce for the sake of it. It's not a HG v bought pissing contest. It's about having a sustainable, sensible approach that integrates both. About having a coach now working hand in glove with the Academy Director (McDermott) to make sure we have a unilateral coaching policy that can supply that head coach's first team with a conveyor belt of young legs and minds already tuned to his ethos (and his ethos is very much geared toward young minds and legs), who will actually be a better fit because of that than most we can buy for the type of budget we have (especially if that budget is restricted by stadium development).

If they don't get time in cup games, the evidence of this season suggests they aren't getting it elsewhere (30 minutes in roughly 4000 in the league).

I read people saying "would love Boufal" in the Summer Transfer Wish List thread, well if we'd given Pritchard time on the pitch this season, we might not need to be even thinking about a player like Boufal (slightly different but would fulfil a similar remit and would definitely take another AM birth for Pritchard, Lamela, Son, Njie, Eriksen, Alli, Onomah to compete with - though two of those would be better in CM3 they are treated as AM's by Poch in his 4231).

This "Poch sees them in training" would be the same Poch that counter intuitive to his own ethos dropped Lamela and Dembele for Chadli and Townsend this time last season. I'm loving the bloke, but he's not infallible. And considering the amount of shit his predecessors like AVB took for ignoring the academy, and the actual options Pochettino has had this season, I think this aspect warrants a bit of criticism.

 

[Blake Griffin]

Just saw this posted by @thfcacademy on twitter - is that you? Either way it's a very decent compilation.

i just deleted my previous response to this mm as i realised i read it wrong and it could've caused confusion. i'm not @thfcacademy, that's @BC11.

i did make the video though - which @thfcacademy kindly linked to on his twitter.

 

[Sweech]

Given all that's coming out now about Chelsea I can clearly see why Emenalo is lashing out. He's clearly being put under immense pressure.

• He brought in the likes of De Bruyne and Lukaku only to proceed to sell them (with no buy-back clauses) and now watch them tear up the league.
• He has youth players refusing to stay on and are either leaving, like Josimar Quintero, or are refusing to sign new contracts, like Dominic Solanke.

Serious questions are being asked and I wouldn't be surprised if he's getting our name chucked in his face by agents, players, and parents as a team willing to give young players a shot and that's why he lashed out.