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Evra certainly had problems with him, but are you disputing that Lennon's lack of size or strength hindered him?
No I was just being slightly flippant. I think he’s quite strong for his size.
Evra certainly had problems with him, but are you disputing that Lennon's lack of size or strength hindered him?
What a player should do if he’s trying to shoot is shoot on target, no? 98/100 those two skew their shots it doesn’t end in a goal.
Credit to Son and Kane’s anticipation and timing to turn those skewed shots into goals, huge credit to Son for the drag and turn that got him there, the ball to Aurier by Eriksen and Aurier for getting himself there I guess, but I’m struggling hard to say hurrah for fucking up a shot.
Don’t you go soft on me MP, there’s enough lovestruck puppies on here.
For Dembele it's Everton are poor and for Eriksen he was outstanding. Surely Everton is poor for both?
Eriksen was superb controlling our attack, but you really under estimate what Dembele did. He was picking the ball up all the time and was always there to press. He was taking players on and moving the ball further up the pitch like he should do. He also won some very good challenges to help protect defence.
Also can't believe you say Son skews his shots 98/100 times. Son has 12 goals, he more definitely has not had 1200 shots this season. I'm sure Kane skews more shots than Son.
You’re right MP. It’s about weighting the percentages in your favour. Whether they were shots, crosses or passes is irrelevant, they’re driven balls that the defence has milliseconds to react to. The resultant being that the percentages are weighted in the attackers favour to pick up the loose ball when following in if done often enough.I just think it's a good example that you don't have to do extraordinary, perfect things to score a goal and can often pick up 'easy' ones, but a lot of players, across football, just aren't switched on enough and don't have that killer instinct. We worked an opening, went hard and low across goal, and had determined runners getting across their men for the tap in. Obviously in an ideal world our players hit the back of the net directly every single time, but team mates making those runs time and again can turn not so perfect shots/crosses into perfect outcomes. A few too many games we have too many players who get drawn deeper playing tippy tappy in front of the packed defence and then aren't getting into the box and making runs across their markers (obviously it's harder against packed defences, but my point still stands).
I just think it's a good example that you don't have to do extraordinary, perfect things to score a goal and can often pick up 'easy' ones, but a lot of players, across football, just aren't switched on enough and don't have that killer instinct. We worked an opening, went hard and low across goal, and had determined runners getting across their men for the tap in. Obviously in an ideal world our players hit the back of the net directly every single time, but team mates making those runs time and again can turn not so perfect shots/crosses into perfect outcomes. A few too many games we have too many players who get drawn deeper playing tippy tappy in front of the packed defence and then aren't getting into the box and making runs across their markers (obviously it's harder against packed defences, but my point still stands).
@Bus-Conductor Like you, I rate Trippier perhaps more than most on this site but it's curious that Aurier's contributions are always tainted somehow. I thought he proved a tremendous outlet on the right flank and is much more direct than Trippier which contributed to the crucial opening goal.
It's the intangible element too of how the opposition combats him and definitely occupies space in more advanced positions which is afforded to him because of the play of Son & Alli down the left.
He's by no means perfect but i'd be happier with him holding down the position in the lion's share of games from hereon rather than the game by game rotation we've seen previously.
I don’t expect players to shoot with 100% accuracy, but I’m struggling to call a skewed shot a deliberate act. Like I said, I can credit other facets of those goals, like what led to the shots, and what went after, but it’s pure luck on the part of Aurier and Son (doubly so in Son's case because Kane was also probably offside) that someone else anticipated cleverly and gambled and was rewarded.
You can rightly apply the “made our luck” cliche, but there was still an element of luck with both our first goals.
Really surprised this has to be explained tbh.In both situations, Aurier and Son had got behind the defence on their flanks, and they quite clearly saw they had runners attacking the six yard box with a defence that was out of position. Both players fired their passes/shots into a threatening area. Think they assessed the chances of a goal outcome at higher than 2%. Good decisions as it happened.
Well, yes, as in you never know exactly in any stage of play where the ball is going to fall, but instead of labelling it as luck I'd look at it and say its playing the percentages. The player hits it across goal, increasing the opportunities of something happening, whether they get the actual shot right or not, and more importantly the second man is making that run and turning a bad shot into a goal. That's teamwork, and doing the right things and getting your rewards. Too many times, for all football teams, we see lazy players who don't make the runs and miss out on an easy goal.
In both situations, Aurier and Son had got behind the defence on their flanks, and they quite clearly saw they had runners attacking the six yard box with a defence that was out of position. Both players fired their passes/shots into a threatening area. Think they assessed the chances of a goal outcome at higher than 2%. Good decisions as it happened.
Really surprised this has to be explained tbh.
They did exactly as ohtottenham described.Both players shot badly. Neither play passed.
I am not surprised that some people have failed to grasp this most basic of concepts.
They did exactly as ohtottenham described.
Aurier, Dembele and Son were fantastic yesterday.Aurier performance yesterday was outstanding.
Ran the whole rightside with ease. Got a excellent assist with a driven cross goal cross making it incredibly easy for Son to tap in.
Also his contribution to the fourth hasn’t really been credited enough. Started the move then powered up the line and manged somehow not only reach Kane’s over hit pass but on the stretch calmly get it into Son > astonishing.
Haven’t seen a display like that for a right back since walker first half of last season.
Probably a mom performance but for Dembele would’ve got it.
Aurier
It was a cross. 1000% a cross. People here dont give him credit for anythingfwiw Aurier's looked a drilled cross, not a shot, to me, and Son's was on target anyway (might have been saved, but it was on target) regardless of whether or not Kane turned it in.