Match Threads Spurs vs Southampton - Match Thread

[spursfan77]

What makes everyone think it should've been a throw? Looked close but have no way of knowing. Lino was perfectly positioned, looking right up the line and said no. There's no reason to doubt him. Doesn't even matter. Aurier completely brainless there. We're lucky it didn't cost us more.

There is though isn’t there, we know the officials in this country are terrible.

 

[allatsea]

Eriksen runs around a lot, but bottles situation where he could win the ball back & it's what he does with it that concerns me. Yes he moved it on for Kane's goal, although not very well in my opinion & Kane had to make something out of it, but I look at De Bruyne & the amount of quality ball he puts about & feel that Eriksen should be every bit as good for us & I don't think he is.

Eriksen in footballing terms is a coward. He never ever takes one for the team. That said he has oodles of talent which normally makes up for his shortcomings. Whether his style of player will endear him to the Real Madrid fans I very much doubt.

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

Just home.... no it didn't take that long to get home, but had to make a detour on way home.. wow what a game today, the ref was bent.... awful - he made the performance from Riley at Burnley last season look brilliant, he was so poor.
The red card for Aurier (what an idiot by the way) the ball was out well i havent seen a replay but from where we was the ball looked out but the players stopped
The lads really did put effort in to see the game out, both harrys were superb, ndombele brilliant too, Sissoko was great at RB and Coco when he came on was great.
Son was poor, as for Eriksen - less said the better, he clearly doesnt want to be here and its showing in his performances, he was awful.

The biggest thing though was the atmosphere, we didnt stop singing in the south stand, really trying to lift the players to the 95th minute we sang and sang, i hope the atmosphere came over for those watching at home, i have pretty much lost my voice - best astmopshere i have seen at spurs for a long time.

This result was huge, we were all saying it as we left the ground, defeat toay would have hurt badly but the passion shown and holding on was immense and we really felt like this could be the result that turns our season - we celebrated at the end like we have won something but clearly we havent yet but dont mock this result, it was huge as southampton played well yet we held on with 10 for over an hour playing against a ref who was just terrible

Son was poor !!! Just shows how people see games differently , rated MOM by BBC reporter Neil Johnston https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49778504 , and was given a standing ovation when substituted.

 

[Nicki78]

Son was poor !!! Just shows how people see games differently , rated MOM by BBC reporter Neil Johnston https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49778504 , and was given a standing ovation when substituted.

Thank you - just beat me to it. Daft comment re: Son

 

[Shadydan]

Son was involved in both goals and was a constant threat, absolutely mental to say he was poor

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

Thank you - just beat me to it. Daft comment re: Son

Too many Spurs fans are hyper critical of our players , they seem to forget that there are two teams on the pitch with opposition players putting in tackles , closing down and generally trying to stop us from scoring.

 

[allatsea]

Son was involved in both goals and was a constant threat, absolutely mental to say he was poor

He is getting much more involved in supporting his defenders this season but his first touch remains a work in progress.

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

He is getting much more involved in supporting his defenders this season but his first touch remains a work in progress.

That is true , I think in the first 15 minutes or so he did fail to control the ball on two or three occasions but that happens to all players e.g Salah, Aguero it happens to them all even the best.

 

[JimmyG2]

Eriksen in footballing terms is a coward. He never ever takes one for the team. That said he has oodles of talent which normally makes up for his shortcomings. Whether his style of player will endear him to the Real Madrid fans I very much doubt.

Taking one for the team
is cynical, anti-football and unprofessional
and aught to be more heavily punished.
So credit to him there.

(Actually he did it last week
against Leicester and got booked)
I hope he's learned his lesson.

What he does do consistently
is cut off the line of communication
of his opponent
which is why his mileage is so high.
This requires a football brain
rather than just being a thug
in football boots.

 

[C0YS]

That's a bit sideways to my question.

It doesn't really matter for my purposes whether the referee should have issued a card for that challenge. It's the same foul, irrespective of whether the ball was in play or out. You're suggesting that refs let things go when the ball is dead that they would penalise when the the ball is in play. That may be true, but it's a matter of judgment and personal style for each referee.

A lot of people here have argued that the referee should not be entitled to issue a yellow card when the ball is dead. I don't think that's what the laws say and I cited several examples.

For violent conduct, yes you get booked when the ball is out of play. For 'holding' (what the match report lists it as) you generally don't. That was only a yellow because Aurier, by fouling the player, was preventing a big chance. The nature of the foul itself is entirely contingent on the context of where the ball is and where the other players are. That would not be a yellow card were the ball out of play. Its a completely different kind of foul where the ball dead. Its not even comparable.

The other point is if the ball went out before the foul the foul would have never happened. The foul comes in direct response to the call.

lastly, Aurier was an idiot in both his bookings, though the second one he barely made contact, and deserved his sending off. My only issue is when we have VAR applied for factual decisions like offsides, to an insane degree, why is this different? Its also a factual game changing decision.

 

[C0YS]

Eriksen in footballing terms is a coward. He never ever takes one for the team. That said he has oodles of talent which normally makes up for his shortcomings. Whether his style of player will endear him to the Real Madrid fans I very much doubt.

The Madrid thing makes no sense. They really don't need an Eriksen, and right now, on current for he's just not good enough.

 

[Ronwol196061]

He is getting much more involved in supporting his defenders this season but his first touch remains a work in progress.

Yes he has that problem with the first touch but when Son does get control of the ball he fights for space and attacks the goal. Only Kane does that for us.Lucas Moura occasionally does that. Dele rarely does that. Lamela almost never does that. Eriksen can do that but rarely does. But Son he always does that

 

[Ronwol196061]

Auriers play in this one was a disaster. After the problems we have had from him before he showed that he cant control himself.He was great against Palace but we can see he is a car crash waiting to happen.It happened.Stupid.

 

[Ronwol196061]

Ndombele really showed more of his qualities in this one and what a delight he is. Its exactly what we need.Pushes forward,not afraid to take on the opposition.He is confident powerful and has ball talent. Going to be great

 

[For the love of Spurs]

Son was involved in both goals and was a constant threat, absolutely mental to say he was poor

He wasn’t poor he was very good. He is sometimes an erratic player, his touch can be either brilliant or woeful and his link play likewise.

If you watch 30 mins of Son you might think he is a terrible footballer, if you watch another 30 mins you might think he is the best player on the park.

He is almost Spurs personified, not current Spurs or 90’s Spurs but Spurs throughout time.

 

[Ronwol196061]

He wasn’t poor he was very good. He is sometimes an erratic player, his touch can be either brilliant or woeful and his link play likewise.

If you watch 30 mins of Son you might think he is a terrible footballer, if you watch another 30 mins you might think he is the best player on the park.

He is almost Spurs personified, not current Spurs or 90’s Spurs but Spurs throughout time.

Greaves,Mackay,Blanchflower,Hoddle,Waddle,Ardiles,Ginola,Klinsmann et al may dispute that

 

[For the love of Spurs]

Greaves,Mackay,Blanchflower,Hoddle,Waddle,Ardiles,Ginola,Klinsmann et al may dispute that

Greaves and Hoddle where at different level, that’s not the level we have always been at, Son would be a better representation of our ups and downs.

 

[Ronwol196061]

Greaves and Hoddle where at different level, that’s not the level we have always been at, Son would be a better representation of our ups and downs.

Agreed but why define Tottenham as our ups and downs?
You must be a happy camper,for me I define us by our best its more painful I agree and sets the expectations too high but what can you do,its a sickness

 

[Ronwol196061]

The Madrid thing makes no sense. They really don't need an Eriksen, and right now, on current for he's just not good enough.

The odds are that the President of RM wants to give it to Levy and may not even take Eriksen at the end,who knows.

 

[Mr Pink]

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He did see the goal they got yeah? Fkin havin a laugh isnt he.

I watched his interview and burst out laughing.

He's lamenting the two soft goals they gave away and then goes on to say they equalised like it was a perfectly well worked goal - not the softest goal conceded you're ever likely to see!! ? ? ?