Match Threads Spurs Vs Sporting CP

[fishhhandaricecake]

We are 3rd as sporting have better head to head

Simply put. Win we top the group. Draw we are first or 2nd. Lose we are 3rd and Europa

No terrible outcomes really tbh.

 

[Spurslove]

I can't believe the so-called 'defending' for their goal. Three of them, Dier, Romero and Davies running backwards backwards backwards, inviting their player to keep running towards the goal, and to shoot completely unchallenged. WTF was that all about?

 

[taidgh]

So they ruled offside as they determined Kane was ahead of the ball when played by Emerson. Conte and everyone feels cheated as they think Kane wasn’t ahead of the ball and the lines weren’t correct.

The ball being played backwards is irrelevant as not the rule, and the ball hitting the defender is irrelevant as it wasn’t a deliberate action.

That sum up the situation?

Yes, pal. Now you just need to make yourself available to copy and paste this for the next few hours for when people come in to the thread to ask the same questions.

 

[SpursSince1980]

I still don't understand how it's offside as Emerson's header was going backwards, effectively and possibly to someone else....

Please explain someone, I'm losing my shit here.

It's an obscure rule, but seemingly the law of the game.
Kane is in an offside position (by half a CM) when Emerson heads the ball, slightly backwards. It deflects off the defender, unintentionally, falls to Kane (who was .5 cm offside when Emerson made the header), therefore considered not a goal.
I think the bigger issue here, is why it took nearly 4 mins. If the rule is meant to be obvious, it should have been sussed out in 90 seconds at best. Even the judgement to decide if Kane was offside based on semi-automated lines, is slightly subjective. I get they were looking at 3 things. But that shouldn't take more than 30 seconds each. Also, why doesn't the defender knocking Kane forward, come into the equation? When you put all that together, it still feels like the call could have gone back our way. Therefore, in my mind, if it reaches a point where you are slightly guessing, you stay with the call on the field.

That's what pisses me off the most about the decision.

Originally, I thought it was BS. But now that the rule has been explained, I get it. But, again... the time to make the call, and the line drawn, and the final decision (which borders on subjective), was what baffled and angered everyone.

This is where VAR is ruining the game. At any point it seems like they are guessing on something that is a matter of milometers, and it takes over 3 mins to do so, you stick with the call on the field. Simple.

First half we were atrocious.

Second half we were much better. And certainly deserved at least a point. We had four great opportunities. All messed up.

The players are already lacking confidence. This ain't gonna help.

Lastly... Gil did himself proud. Did more in 25 mins, than Moura and did the entire time he was on the field. He was busy and trying to make things happen.

 

[faymantaray]

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They are having a fucking laugh

Haha I absolutely cannot believe that’s real.

 

[St José Dominguez]

How do they know Emerson didn’t head the ball with his right eyebrow thusly making the ball potentially travel sideways and being onside? I’m sorry but they don’t have the technology to know the shape of the ball to determine the centre of it or what exact part of Emerson head it struck. A goal like that should be standing

 

[IfiHadTheWings]

Honestly it makes if even more of a farce if that was the “correct” decision, i’m not sure any lover of the game can defend the absolute shambles the game is turning in to…nobody even understands the rules, people would have done a google up and are now experts but 99% of the people watching that game wouldn’t have a clue why it was disallowed.

 

[DarwinSpur]

Don’t know why we’re all slagging off Edwards for not being able to talk shite on tv.

 

[olliec]

More chance of winning Europa so wouldn’t be the worse thing in the world if we lost to Marseille.

 

[cjbyid]

No terrible outcomes really tbh.

Yep. We can't really have to many complaints if we drop to the Europa.

 

[VoteMe4Prez]

I can't believe the so-called 'defending' for their goal. Three of them, Dier, Romero and Davies running backwards backwards backwards, inviting their player to keep running towards the goal, and to shoot completely unchallenged. WTF was that all about?

It was poor

 

[taidgh]

How do they know Emerson didn’t head the ball with his right eyebrow thusly making the ball potentially travel sideways and being onside? I’m sorry but they don’t have the technology to know the shape of the ball to determine the centre of it or what exact part of Emerson head it struck. A goal like that should be standing

doesn't matter which part of his head he played it with. it's where the ball is.

 

[Julmust]

I think they should take the lines out. In fact, do away with VAR offsides, just keep for penalty calls

I would agree if the biggest problem with offsides without VAR is that they’re missed. I’ve rarely been super upset with a goal that was allowed even though it was a few cm offside.

What’s worse though is you’d have the inevitable goals which are incorrectly disallowed due to a non-existing offisde. That’s just a straight up robbery, cheating. At least VAR gets rid of those.

Not sure that’s a bigger problem overall than the kind of farse we saw today though. The offside rule was obviously not created to ensure that the attacker’s nostril hairs aren’t in front of the ball at the time of the pass.

 

[agrdavidsfan]

More chance of winning Europa so wouldn’t be the worse thing in the world if we lost to Marseille.

Have you seen the teams that have dropped into there?

 

[gio747]

Just the 16 disagrees on this and counting ? ?

Good for them. We were shit. Again, the 4,best team in Portugal with one of the worst defences in Portugal. Any other premier league team would have ducking destroyed them

 

[lincspurs]

So they ruled offside as they determined Kane was ahead of the ball when played by Emerson. Conte and everyone feels cheated as they think Kane wasn’t ahead of the ball and the lines weren’t correct.

The ball being played backwards is irrelevant as not the rule, and the ball hitting the defender is irrelevant as it wasn’t a deliberate action.

That sum up the situation?

What I haven’t seen explained is, what part of the ball do they draw the line from?

 

[DiscoD1882]

Mini. Burgers. Chicken bites. And a beer waiting for me at half time. The excitement is palpable.

Cheese with grapes and a slightly sour note that we didn’t win.

rum helped.

 

[olliec]

Have you seen the teams that have dropped into there?

Yes but the chance to knock out the goons makes it a little more tasty!

 

[PCozzie]

TBF this isn't wrong. Bring back the shit decisions on-field. Down with technology!

 

[Julmust]

I’d like to see a regular speed replay to see if the defender ‘deliberately’ played the ball, but in real time it didn’t feel like it

How do you determine that though?