Standing still while rivals improve

[sussexyid]

I don't think there is anything to be concerned about and spending our champs league money would be foolhardy. We should plow the cash into the stadium. Paying off the debt from that sooner will only be a massive positive for the club as a whole, being on a more even footing financially is the goal and has be the priority.

 

[stevenurse]

I don't think there is anything to be concerned about and spending our champs league money would be foolhardy. We should plow the cash into the stadium. Paying off the debt from that sooner will only be a massive positive for the club as a whole, being on a more even footing financially is the goal and has be the priority.

Do you expect us to be spending substantially more as a result of the new stadium? Arsenal make £2m a home game. It will be great to have but the necessity for a massive stadium to compete financially is a myth.

With the game becoming so globalised, the large majority of money recieved is in sponsorship and image rights (which being in the better competitions brings). The game has progressed past the 30/40/50/60,000 in the stadium. The amount of money brought in a year by the stadium will be roughly equivalent to that we bring in by being in the CL. I know what I'd prefer, not to mention that our pulling power will be lessened if we go back to playing Mordor and Lidl in the Europa league

 

[mill]

Do you expect us to be spending substantially more as a result of the new stadium? Arsenal make £2m a home game. It will be great to have but the necessity for a massive stadium to compete financially is a myth.

Just enable us to be more competitive with wages

 

[NEVILLEB]

This is probably why Paul Mitchell left.

 

[sundanceyid10]

Do you expect us to be spending substantially more as a result of the new stadium? Arsenal make £2m a home game. It will be great to have but the necessity for a massive stadium to compete financially is a myth.

Arsenal don't spend the money, but they do make it. The reason for this god only knows and it is Arse fans biggest gripe against Wenger. It is not a myth. Spurs will have more spending power and the ability to attract better players if they do end up building the finest football stadium in the capital city of the biggest league in the world.

 

[Hoddle&Waddle]

I don't think there is anything to be concerned about and spending our champs league money would be foolhardy. We should plow the cash into the stadium. Paying off the debt from that sooner will only be a massive positive for the club as a whole, being on a more even footing financially is the goal and has be the priority.

We'll payback the stadium debt a hell of a lot quicker if we are still a CL club going into it. The Club has already had an unexpected extra windfall with the new TV deal.

A zero net spend in a season when we have CL football would be a piss take IMO, we need a fair balance of investment into the stadium and investment into the team.

 

[stevenurse]

Arsenal don't spend the money, but they do make it. The reason for this god only knows and it is Arse fans biggest gripe against Wenger. It is not a myth. Spurs will have more spending power and the ability to attract better players if they do end up building the finest football stadium in the capital city of the biggest league in the world.

Being in the champions league for 20 successive seasons also helps. Their fortune isn't solely based on their gate reciepts at the death star. It would help, but wouldnt pole vault us above many. To attract better players possibly but we won't turn into big spenders overnight because of it

 

[sundanceyid10]

Being in the champions league for 20 successive seasons also helps. Their fortune isn't solely based on their gate reciepts at the death star. It would help, but wouldnt pole vault us above many. To attract better players possibly but we won't turn into big spenders overnight because of it

Not solely no, but it has gone up for them though, that is a fact.

 

[stevenurse]

Not solely no, but it has gone up for them though, that is a fact.

Of course it has. A bigger stadium with a big sponsorship contract and the highest prices in Europe will do that.

The fact is that we were told that the stadium wouldn't impact investment in the transfer windows. Since the plans were made the club has had significant investment via the TV deals and the windfall of the CL. Clearly Mason, Chadli, carroll are surplus to requirements, with the potential with a couple of others too. To go into a season, especially with CL on the horizon with CCV, Winks and Onomah on the bench just isn't good enough. We would be pissing away a huge opportunity if we don't act now

 

[nigespurs]

This is probably why Paul Mitchell left.

Agreed, does seem strange that we paid compensation to Southampton and less than 2 years later he's off without apparently another job to go to.

 

[sundanceyid10]

Of course it has. A bigger stadium with a big sponsorship contract and the highest prices in Europe will do that.

The fact is that we were told that the stadium wouldn't impact investment in the transfer windows. Since the plans were made the club has had significant investment via the TV deals and the windfall of the CL. Clearly Mason, Chadli, carroll are surplus to requirements, with the potential with a couple of others too. To go into a season, especially with CL on the horizon with CCV, Winks and Onomah on the bench just isn't good enough. We would be pissing away a huge opportunity if we don't act now

Have we been told this? I have seen quotes from the manager saying we have to be astute in the market, which I took to mean, with a stadium to fund at this point we have to be careful with finances.

 

[stevenurse]

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/foo...ransfer-budget-says-daniel-levy-a3092231.html

 

[sundanceyid10]

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/foo...ransfer-budget-says-daniel-levy-a3092231.html

... He added, however, that pragmatism and realism were also needed against the backdrop of such an important construction project.


I dont disagree with you, I would love too see some new players. It is just my opinion of course that the club are being pragmatic (rightly or wrongly) it is what it is. I have always felt fans underestimate the costs the stadium will place on the club, and the club were always going to play it safe and spend well with our means allowing for unforeseen things which pretty much happen with all projects of this nature.

 

[stevenurse]

... He added, however, that pragmatism and realism were also needed against the backdrop of such an important construction project.


I dont disagree with you, I would love too see some new players. It is just my opinion of course that the club are being pragmatic (rightly or wrongly) it is what it is. I have always felt fans underestimate the costs the stadium will place on the club, and the club were always going to play it safe and spend well with our means allowing for unforeseen things which pretty much happen with all projects of this nature.

Of course but with the infamous "net spend" being one of the lowest in the league, it would be fair to give porch a few quid as a reward for doing magic things last season and not saying "well, you did it last season, why can't you do it again?"

Last season was a one off and I'd be worried if Levy didn't understand that

 

[sundanceyid10]

Of course but with the infamous "net spend" being one of the lowest in the league, it would be fair to give porch a few quid as a reward for doing magic things last season and not saying "well, you did it last season, why can't you do it again?"

Last season was a one off and I'd be worried if Levy didn't understand that

I would agree with you on that, there is a big difference between what I want to happen and what I think will happen. The year before when we qualified for the champions league, I agree with you a top striker being bought in support Bale could well have secured Champions league football again. I just don't think in the current situation they are going to splash 30-35m on a player. To be fair too Levy its bloody hard when Chelsea and City chuck paper money round like they do, and United are at it again as well.

 

[ultimateloner]

There are few low hanging fruits now that would improve us immediately. If i'm looking at how we attack we've relied mostly on crosses these days. I can't remember the last through-ball type of goal. So maybe we should look for someone who can do that from deep but also with ball winning qualities. We have Chadli who makes those runs so it could be 1 stone 2 birds..

Just can't think of a CM capable of that tbh..Drinkwater, but he doesn't win the ball alot. Maybe Fabregas.

 

[Amo]

I don't get it. The newly promoted teams are spending gazillions and Palace are rejecting 30m bids for players that wouldn't get on our reserves' bench.

We've spent jack shit in five years. That's great, I'm proud of it and proud of where we are despite that. And when I remember that we completely wasted 100s of millions on completely useless players that never done anything for us, the fact we were competing for the league despute the above, it's even more remarkable.

However, every other team is able to spend, we have a massive new TV deal, we have the ECL, and we have cash on hand. After last season's accomplishments we've purchased two players that are certainly not guaranteed first teamers. In fact, both will probably spend more time on the bench than on the pitch.

The gaps in the first team are obvious, the lack of any will to plug them is even more obvious. All around us teams are, on paper, improving their first 11s. We're not.

 

[stevenurse]

To be fair it's not about the need to spend £30m+ on just one player per se, it's a case that our depth isn't good enough. A bench containing winks, CCV and Onomah isn't going to get us into the top 4 again.

If we got george over the line and we bring in Isco on loan to buy I'll be more than happy but I can't see it happening and it'll feel like we've been let down massively. I love to see our kids come through and its poch's view that matters but how CCV and Onomah can be preferred to experienced internationals like Chadli and Wimmer is strange, especially in Wimmers case.

I'm sure they are highly talented but would like to see them get some experience in the league on loan while we ensure our senior team is as strong as possible. It's to our credit that we give our youth a chance and if they've proved good enough then that's fine but none of those mentioned above have given me any reason to believe they would be. A better option that was is available to us

 

[walworthyid]

This thread is poor. We haven't looked great and yes we need some pace/guile in the final third but the doom and gloom is not great after 3 games!

Our game depends on a very high energy approach where ALL of thd players are at it for 90 minutes. At the moment our key players just aren't quite there yet and of course we are missing possibly thd best all round midfielder player in the league last season in dembele.

Chelsea, utd and city look good, pool and the scum were good today but let's not get our panties in a knot just yet. I hope we get a player or 2 in, as Poch has repeatedly said he is trying to do, but if we don't I still believe we will be competitive this season.

 

[nferno]

Sign Isco and all will be forgotten.