Stoke City Vs Tottenham: Match Thread

[spud]

Danny Rose was labelled a cheat by Stoke yesterday, I know there are those who don't favour him on here, but at what point did he cheat? He was fouled twice and you cannot blame his reaction to Cameron. Cameron went in deliberately and no booking. Okay, Rose should've been smarter and walked away, but he was being abused by the home support throughout and I think I would've been the same. Say what you want about Sherwood, he was right to take Rose off and send him to the dressing room.

Let's face it, Danny Rose is a cheat. You only have to look, among other things, at his flopping down in the opposition box last week. Yesterday he got a little tap on the leg when Shawcross was a bit late in the tackle and went down as though his leg had been sliced off. I don't blame the orcs for giving him shit.

Sherwood was right to take Rose off. As for sending him to the dressing room, it was completely the WRONG thing to do. If Rose had sat on the bench the crowd would've forgotten about him: there was a match going on and they looked like at least drawing level with us. By sending him to the dressing room he left him exposed - by himself - to all the shit that the crowd could sling at him. If the tunnel is behind the dugout, then fine, send him down it. If it's at the other end of the stadium, you keep your player sheltered with the rest of the team. You don't cut him loose to fend for himself.

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

Let's face it, Danny Rose is a cheat. You only have to look, among other things, at his flopping down in the opposition box last week. Yesterday he got a little tap on the leg when Shawcross was a bit late in the tackle and went down as though his leg had been sliced off. I don't blame the orcs for giving him shit.

Sherwood was right to take Rose off. As for sending him to the dressing room, it was completely the WRONG thing to do. If Rose had sat on the bench the crowd would've forgotten about him: there was a match going on and they looked like at least drawing level with us. By sending him to the dressing room he left him exposed - by himself - to all the shit that the crowd could sling at him. If the tunnel is behind the dugout, then fine, send him down it. If it's at the other end of the stadium, you keep your player sheltered with the rest of the team. You don't cut him loose to fend for himself.

Utter Tosh.

That was not a "tap" on the leg, but a late studs up kick, and a deserved second yellow.

Sending Rose to the dressing room was the very best thing to do in order to stop the Stoke fans baiting him. I would bet that you have never been to that Stoke ground that is one of the most intimidating in the PL.

How Rose could have been "exposed" in the dressing room is beyond me, unless there was a flasher on the loose.

I am no lover of Rose at left back, and deplore any player who dives, but on this occasion the ref and Sherwood handled the incident correctly.

 

[spud]

Utter Tosh.

That was not a "tap" on the leg, but a late studs up kick, and a deserved second yellow.

Sending Rose to the dressing room was the very best thing to do in order to stop the Stoke fans baiting him. I would bet that you have never been to that Stoke ground that is one of the most intimidating in the PL.

How Rose could have been "exposed" in the dressing room is beyond me, unless there was a flasher on the loose.

I am no lover of Rose at left back, and deplore any player who dives, but on this occasion the ref and Sherwood handled the incident correctly.

You have misunderstood my points. Deliberately, I think. If unintentionally, allow me to clarify.

I did not say that the Shawcross tackle did not deserve a booking. I merely said that the contact with Rose was minor and that he made the most of it. He has dived on many occasions, as I pointed out, and his reaction to the tackle was exaggerated; so the abuse of him by Stoke fans was understandable.

As you well know, I did not say that he would be exposed in the dressing room. If you genuinely believe that is what I said, then you should take classes in reading comprehension. I said that he was subjected to abuse from the Stoke fans on the way there - and that he should not have been so exposed by Sherwood, who should have kept him on the bench.

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

You have misunderstood my points. Deliberately, I think. If unintentionally, allow me to clarify.

I did not say that the Shawcross tackle did not deserve a booking. I merely said that the contact with Rose was minor and that he made the most of it. He has dived on many occasions, as I pointed out, and his reaction to the tackle was exaggerated; so the abuse of him by Stoke fans was understandable.

As you well know, I did not say that he would be exposed in the dressing room. If you genuinely believe that is what I said, then you should take classes in reading comprehension. I said that he was subjected to abuse from the Stoke fans on the way there - and that he should not have been so exposed by Sherwood, who should have kept him on the bench.

If Shawcross deserved a booking in your opinion then it must have been intentional.

 

[Hobbes]

We were good away at Newcastle but they had 5 or 6 really good chances and Lloris still had to pull of a couple of worldies out the bag. It could easily have been 4 all. And it was Newcastle at their low-point of the season as well, plenty of teams have gone their and thumped them. I thought we were better against them performance wise at home.

Best Spurs have played this year was the first Norwich game I think. There's been some excellent halves of football across the season (Everton 1st half, Newcastle home 2nd, Chelsea home 1st) but that's the only full 90 that springs to mind where we dominated everything. I loved the Swansea game under Tim as well but it wasn't exactly dominant.

Totally agree. I remember coming away from that game thinking that we were going to be such a force this season, because we ripped them to shreds for 90 minutes, and should have scored many more that 2 goals. And then not long after we went to Cardiff and did similar for 90 minutes (albeit only just won in the end). I couldnt have foreseen then that our performance levels would drop in the way they did, or that AVB wouldnt make it to Christmas. A funny old game...

 

[idontgetit]

Totally agree. I remember coming away from that game thinking that we were going to be such a force this season, because we ripped them to shreds for 90 minutes, and should have scored many more that 2 goals. And then not long after we went to Cardiff and did similar for 90 minutes (albeit only just won in the end). I couldnt have foreseen then that our performance levels would drop in the way they did, or that AVB wouldnt make it to Christmas. A funny old game...

Rose got injured soon after I think which AVB let ruin the team dynamic. He moved Verts, who was playing well, out of position to left back which shook up what was a pretty tight defence at that point. He kept Siggy playing on the left as well which meant we had no pace down the left given there was now a CB at LB.

 

[greaves]

A good result today, another three precious points. Let's hope the scum slip up on Monday night.

God, my crossed fingers are hurting from cramp since you posted this. Still, in four hours or so they can relax, whichever way it goes. My expectation's minimal, my hope is so stratospheric I can see planet Earth.

 

[SlickMongoose]

Rose got injured soon after I think which AVB let ruin the team dynamic. He moved Verts, who was playing well, out of position to left back which shook up what was a pretty tight defence at that point. He kept Siggy playing on the left as well which meant we had no pace down the left given there was now a CB at LB.

If we'd signed a good attacking left back it would have been a much better season.

 

[idontgetit]

If we'd signed a good attacking left back it would have been a much better season.

Even keeping Benny would have saved us so many problems

 

[spud]

If Shawcross deserved a booking in your opinion then it must have been intentional.

Which completely ignores the points I was making. If you have something to say about what I wrote then please say it. I can't see the point of you spamming my posts.

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

Which completely ignores the points I was making. If you have something to say about what I wrote then please say it. I can't see the point of you spamming my posts.

Really.

I did actually say something about what you wrote. Just because members who reply to your posts do not totally agree it does not mean that they a re spamming. No more than you are trolling replies.

 

[greaves]

A good result today, another three precious points. Let's hope the scum slip up on Monday night.

Well. That went well.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

You have misunderstood my points. Deliberately, I think. If unintentionally, allow me to clarify.

I did not say that the Shawcross tackle did not deserve a booking. I merely said that the contact with Rose was minor and that he made the most of it. He has dived on many occasions, as I pointed out, and his reaction to the tackle was exaggerated; so the abuse of him by Stoke fans was understandable.

As you well know, I did not say that he would be exposed in the dressing room. If you genuinely believe that is what I said, then you should take classes in reading comprehension. I said that he was subjected to abuse from the Stoke fans on the way there - and that he should not have been so exposed by Sherwood, who should have kept him on the bench.

I don't think it was minor contact. He sprinted to get to him and went in studs upwards and he's a big lad.

It was the right thing to send him to the dressing room too, he was just getting the crowd riled up and it was geeing up their team. They would have carried on singing at him etc, fuelling their fuckwitted sense of injustice etc.

 

[sak11]

I have just caught the MoTD highlights and something bothered me, our left back is getting crucified by just about everyone in the ground , he is getting kicked from pillar to post and finally when another stoke player takes him out he reacts and follows the guy and ends up pushing him, que a load of bollocks by mark hughes.
What bothers me is after that tackle on Danny Rose why wasn't the stoke player surrounded by our players giving him a verbal slapping at the very least, why weren't there fuming at the treatment their team mate was getting? Just imagine that the other way round or if Danny was a chelsea or Man Utd player, maybe they are all too bloody nice.

Maybe they felt that young Danny Rose needed a bit of kicking after some of his displays this season?