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Summer 2021 Window Rating

Rate the window out of 10

  • 0 - We've gone about as far backwards as we can realistically go in one summer

    Votes: 1 0.2%
  • 1

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 2

    Votes: 3 0.6%
  • 3

    Votes: 6 1.2%
  • 4

    Votes: 38 7.9%
  • 5 - The squad is about as strong overall as it was last season

    Votes: 47 9.8%
  • 6

    Votes: 117 24.3%
  • 7

    Votes: 188 39.1%
  • 8

    Votes: 72 15.0%
  • 9

    Votes: 5 1.0%
  • 10 - We have improved the squad as much as we realistically can in one summer

    Votes: 4 0.8%

  • Total voters
    481
  • Poll closed .

Wsussexspur

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Oct 2, 2007
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4 for me- purely on fact that we didn’t bring another striker. Said it before but it’s like the club has completely forgotten about the shit show when Son and Kane got injured and to be honest it was only lock down that saved us the other season. Moura and Dele can’t play as a striker. Scarlett is a wildcard in terms of he might turn out. Fact he wasn’t even on bench for last game though speaks volumes.

Other than that I am fairly happy with the recruitment and the shifting of deadwood.
 

Strikeb4ck

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Aug 8, 2010
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whilst we could have bought an additional striker I can't think of one that I'd want to have that would also be prepared to sit on the bench whilst Kane isn't injured.

Scroll to the 5-20m range...no way you can tell me one of those players wouldn't have put us in a significantly better position, on low wages, and happy to act in the backup role. We have bunch of wingers and a 17 year old if Kane goes down for any period of time. It's disastrous stuff IMO.
 

Aphex

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Jan 30, 2021
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I'd say on paper it is 6.5/10. We should have signed another striker, a RWF and a CM.

If Sanchez and Dier continue to play well, great, but if they revert to type, the decision not to sign another CB will look foolish. Likewise if Moura and Berg continue to shoot blanks (spoiler - they will), then that will again make the lack of signing a goalscoring RWF even more stupid.

Overall though for me, the undisputed fact of the current squad, is we only have two reliable goalscorers and for me that is unforgivable. I just don't see how that will sustain us over a long season. We have no contingency, we are already under resourced without any injuries. If either Son, Kane, or both got injured, we would be completely stuffed.

This current squad will need to see either Alli, Berg, Bryan or Moura hit ten league goals this season. It is so important a third attacker chips in with a considerable amount of goals. Any top team needs three people weighing in. Then the rest of the team can get 1/2/3/4/5 goals a season as the icing on the cake. Do I think either of those four players can do it? Not even close.

Alli is the only one with a proven history of good goalscoring, but the issue there is he hasn't done that for quite a few seasons and he is now playing in a new deeper position, where 1. we don't know if he will keep his place, and 2. be able to combine his new role with regular goal scoring. So I'm not optimistic on that front.

Three one nil wins in our first 3 games (with only one from open play) tells me we are probably going to find goalscoring a problem this season. Let's see how it goes, but I can't see us finishing any higher than 5th at absolute best, which won't be good enough. We need to get back into the CL immediately, every season we miss out we fall further behind financially and we all know what that means.

So in conclusion, the failure to bring in additional goal scorers to this squad will cost us.
 

usspur

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Jan 29, 2011
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6.

No proper backup striker.
Still no proper Eriksen replacement.
Placing too much trust that Dier and Sanchez are all of a sudden class.
 

Spursmatty87

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Jul 7, 2016
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I went 5, and I would definitely say the in the short term that’s about right. Long term we’ll see.

I don’t understand how we can’t give players away whilst others can get decent fees for their deadwood.
 

BehindEnemyLines

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Apr 13, 2006
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Scroll to the 5-20m range...no way you can tell me one of those players wouldn't have put us in a significantly better position, on low wages, and happy to act in the backup role. We have bunch of wingers and a 17 year old if Kane goes down for any period of time. It's disastrous stuff IMO.
No one there stands out (barring Vinnicius) as someone that would be notably better than either Son (as Centre Forward) or Scarlett (as backup)..........in fact, I'd rather play Son up front (as we have done previously) than any of those!
 

Strikeb4ck

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Aug 8, 2010
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No one there stands out (barring Vinnicius) as someone that would be notably better than either Son (as Centre Forward) or Scarlett (as backup)..........in fact, I'd rather play Son up front (as we have done previously) than any of those!
That's laughable.

You're putting a 17 year old who has played a couple friendlies ahead of Andy Delort, Myron Boadu, Odsonne Edouard, Alex Sorloth, Simy, Brian Brobbey...and I'm going through about 10% of that list.
 

Barmby Army

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Jul 21, 2020
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Based on the ins and outs, I'd go 7 - we've brought in some exciting players in positions we needed to strengthen, got rid of some of the dead wood and kept hold of Kane. It could have been better, and I think Bale's impact will be missed, but overall it was pretty good.

But overall I think based on what we've seen so far this season, it could be much better than that. Inside three games Nuno has Dier and Sanchez playing better than at any point in the past two or three years. Maybe it's a coincidence and they will fall back to the mean, but there's plenty of reason to believe it is the manager's impact that has improved their form.

It's a cliche to say that a current player is 'like a new signing', but both Dier and Sanchez would have been high on the list of players who needed replacing for most people - if they can maintain their recent form, that's two signings that don't need to be made. So they essentially are new signings, replacing the crap versions of themselves we've seen over the past couple of seasons. You could put Alli and Bergwijn into that category as well.

Obviously the jury is still out on all of those players and Nuno himself, and it might well be that whoever we got in would have had a similar impact on players who had been turned to paste by Mourinho's dubious motivational methods. But based on what we have seen so far, the biggest signing of the window has been Nuno because he seems to have rebooted the careers of a lot of good players we had written off as bad players.

The signings are good, but getting half a dozen or more current players to reach their potential after years of stagnation is just as important if not moreso.
 
Aug 9, 2008
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I'll be blunt but fair here, no sugar coating but not vicious either..

5 for me maybe 5.5/6 - overall squad is similar by that i mean to last season:

Last season We simply neglected our DEF (technically weakened it with Doherty, he certainly wasnt bought for his DEF abilities) and went to upgrade the attack Bale and / Vini (on paper initially that was looking decent although not in reality so much but that's life, but still addressed), and shore up the mid with Hoj ... Reggy on the Left side was needed to balance requirement of 2 LB and probably more importantly as 1st 11 upgrade on that side. On paper atleast we addressed some well needed areas.

This season we sort of did the opposite neglected attack and in essence depleted the attack no 'forward' additions in turn with shipping out attacking players without replacing, we sort of shored up the DEF, Romero being the key but technically only replacing Toby we are still left with Dier/Sanchez.

Royale is part of the DEF bolstering, especially in terms of Doherty (Tanganga is a bonus this season but injury concerns) Aurier was decent last season (although many people will not accept that), so technically is balancing that right side of DEF or replacing poor options in Doh but replacing Aurier, its sort of an upgrade but not upgrading that side by that much.

I didnt include Gil as a forward as he is more Attacking MID (potentially playmaker) he is not a guy that will be scoring 10/12 goals a season , well definitley not yet anyway, in future who knows, but for right now in the present he will not be contributing that but hopefully assists. He is still only 20 and we cannot rely or put too much expectation on him especially in his first season with us and first ever season playing abroad (although it could happen) we have to be realistic with expectations from him, he is for the future for sure. Skipp i dont count he was already a spurs player and technically only replaces Sissoko in essence in a DM/CM sense, we didnt replace Siss and now only left with Winks to come in if something happens to HOJ or Skipp, im concerned with this area this season if these 2 get injured or at the very least who will need some rotational rest, esle we will end up with Hoj being affected at the end of the season like he petered out due to Jose over reliance on him.... I know its not saying much i know but id rather of been left with Sissoko still at the club than Winks.

Gollini is a good squad strengthening and depth, not directly an upgrade to the 1st 11 but required as Hart was barely adequate and again for the future

So in essence looking at all that, we haven't really upgraded the 1st 11 by that much, its balanced up with some positives in DEF (but not enough imo) and regressing especially in terms of depth / goal contribution options upfront.

Nuno factor
Reason why i gave a 5.5 (maybe up it to 6) is because of Nuno although not a new player signing but a key factor and upgrade on Jose in that that he seems like Poch and might be able to get a tune out of underperforming or written off players (for me Doherty is written off forever :p ) , he might be able to develop some ok/decent players and make them good or close to very good potentially, or at the very least a much better cohesive and more harmonious team working together with similar players to last season. His playing style and tactics together with more team unity gives an improvement without a massive update/upgrade on existing players.

(* Kane was already with us last season, but in many ways its a coup for us to still have one of the best and a world class striker at the club, although i know many people still hate/dislike him, i dont im just disappointed with him and the saga but hugely grateful we have this world class element still in our team, im 100% sure he will not down tools, he has too many personal goals to fulfil in a WC year and PL scoring record ambitions

*Sarr im not counting as doesnt affect us in the present this season, although potentially a positive for the further)
 
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BehindEnemyLines

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Apr 13, 2006
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That's laughable.

You're putting a 17 year old who has played a couple friendlies ahead of Andy Delort, Myron Boadu, Odsonne Edouard, Alex Sorloth, Simy, Brian Brobbey...and I'm going through about 10% of that list.
No, I'm saying I would rather play Son up front than any on that list (with Scarlett as backup for Son).........not sure what part of that you misunderstood, but perhaps I wasn't clear?

Am I not allowed to have an opinion on this? I suspect there's quite a few that think similarly.

I would also point out that if they are good enough to step in ahead of Son, then I find it highly unlikely they would be content with sitting on our bench for the vast majority of the season!
 

king26

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Feb 28, 2008
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gave a seven some really good young talent also watch out for scarlet and markanday come through
 

doctor stefan Freud

the tired tread of sad biology
Sep 2, 2013
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Hank’s back

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parklane yid

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Aug 14, 2013
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7/10 for me, paratici and hitchenhave achieved so much. However I think way to much emphasis is put on transfers these days. It’s almost a circus and is as much of an entertainment as football itself. Listening to Goldstein on talksport going on about how good man United window has been and that Liverpool’s has been terrible. But I wouldn’t be suprised if Liverpool finish above united this year. Why? Because the players are coached better, they have a good pathway for youth players and most of their signings are well thought out and planned.

We have already seen players who we thought were poor improve under Nuno and the current coaching regime, we Havnt over stacked our squad allowing a good pathway for our academy players to use to get a chance in first team. It feels like paratici has a method and plan. I don’t want to see rushed panic signings on transfer deadline day. Yes it’s exciting but don’t want another bale money saga or sissoko deadline day panic. We can now play for next window methodically. Also we have significantly lowered wage bill allowing future deals that will get us all excited
 

SandroClegane

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Jun 27, 2012
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Scroll to the 5-20m range...no way you can tell me one of those players wouldn't have put us in a significantly better position, on low wages, and happy to act in the backup role. We have bunch of wingers and a 17 year old if Kane goes down for any period of time. It's disastrous stuff IMO.
Sorloth? Edouard? Yeah maybe if this was FM18 or something but I'd much rather be playing Son, or at worst case Dane over those guys. Not to mention the wages.

I honestly didn't even want Daka.
 

JCRD

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Aug 10, 2018
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It is an underwhelming window but one that builds for the future and hoping the players come good. I havent really been that invested in this window and it is only now that im taking stock of the picture. Happy with Romero, Gollini is never going to be our first choice, Sar isnt joining us till next season, Gil seems pretty dan exciting and Royal - well is he a huge upgrade on Aurier - only time will tell

We have some deadwood we havent shifted. We havent strengthened our back up options in the striker position. We are an injury to PEH/Skipp away from Winks starting for us. Ndombele/GLC - are going to have to pull the fingers out of their arses and start performing in line with their transfer fees and wages.

Overall a 4 perhaps 5 out of 10 but was hoping for a bit more quality in the first team. I think we will see an improvement in our team performance and that will be due moreso with Nuno being more effective than Jose and allowing us to attack more. Having said that - just a shame we didnt go perhaps that extra mile.
 

ButchCassidy

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Jul 12, 2012
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I really can’t emphasize enough how important keeping Kane is. It’s been glossed over a bit because of the premature end to that transfer saga, but we now have one more world-class player than everyone thought we would at the end of the window. That’s enormous.
 

ravo

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Jun 4, 2004
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Shifted some of the deadwood.
Signed some top talent.
Still some gaps in the squad so more to be done in future windows.

Decent effort IMO. 7/10
This, although I gave a 6, as would have liked to have another attacking option added. Good nonetheless.
 

FloridaSpur

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Jun 21, 2021
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Given the circumstances an outstanding transfer window, and one bolstered by keeping Harry at the club. I wouldn't be surprised that if we are there or thereabouts by January that we may see one or two more coming in.

Paratici has done an excellent job in my opinion and he is just what the club needed an experienced European talent scout with numerous connections. I just couldn't see Hitchen making the Sarr, Romero and Gill deals fantastic business that helped reduce our overall squad age by half a decade.

9/10 job!
(y)
 

Neon_Knight_

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Jul 20, 2011
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7/10

One of our best windows of recent years, but an immediate CM signing (we have to wait a year for Sarr) and a back-up CF would have made it far better.
 
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