Summer 2022 Window Scouting Thread

[Bombsey]

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[Tottenham_God]

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[Tottenham_God]

A lot of the clamour for JWP I really just dont get especially for the price. Obviously his set pieces are at an elite level and would be an extremely useful thing to have and if his price tag was 25/30m for example I think it would be a conversation worth having, yet for the mooted 45/50m I think a lot of us would be disappointed to not go for different targets in the CM position.

Laimer, Bissouma, Matheus Nunes, Kalvin Phillips, Carlos Soler etc and numerous others would be more cost effective than JWP.

Especially if Eriksen is being targeted as well as someone like Kostic who are both capable in dead ball situations.

You have 50mil and are in charge of finding and selecting a CM to compliment our side. Who are you picking and why ?

 

[Tottenham_God]

Rodon
Winks
Lo Celso
Ndombele
Moura/Stevie (maybe both)
Carter-Vickers
Sanchez?
Gollini

How much of this 150million is coming from the sale of these players? Assuming they all go

 

[nedley]

You have 50mil and are in charge of finding and selecting a CM to compliment our side. Who are you picking and why ?

I'll take 2 thanks.

Phillips and Eriksen

 

[spursfan77]

Angeliño would be excellent as our LWB. I’ve said it before, but he was the best player on the pitch when we played RBL a few seasons back. He’s still only 25 and I believe City no longer owns him.

Yeah I think he’s the obvious candidate. Home grown too after his time at Man City I think. Would be pricey though.

 

[spursfan77]

I’m sure along with JWP we are talking to lots of players and their agents. It’s early days but refreshing to hear we are actually doing some work on recruiting already. No talks of meetings being planned like in January. Wheels have started turning already. That must be good news (regarding conte’s future too).

 

[mr ashley]

Fantastic, but what sort of player is he? Skill set ? Best attributes? Quad or bicep dominant ?

He’s a bit like Hojbjerg. Likes a tackle, puts his body in the line but can stride forwards and pass vertically (as the hipsters say)
I wouldn’t call him an upgrade.
but he’s a nice chap - prefers tea over coffee. Milk no sugar

sorry that’s all I know

 

[mr ashley]

Rodon
Winks
Lo Celso
Ndombele
Moura/Stevie (maybe both)
Carter-Vickers
Sanchez?
Gollini

How much of this 150million is coming from the sale of these players? Assuming they all go

I’d suggest you’d get
Rodon 10-15
Winks 10-15
lo celso 25-30
Ndombele 20-25
Bergwijn 20-25
Ccv-5-10
Sanchez 30-35
Gollini- nothing (return to Atalanta)

so anywhere between £120m and £155m from potential sales. Although some of those could easily end up as loan/obligation (not that it matters, and I’m not levy’s accountant anyway)

but it’s a healthy figure -and worth pointing to Villarreal when anyone tries to undervalue our players because a lot of them have shown they can do well (just not at spurs sadly)

 

[Japhet]

Spurs: Antonio Conte interested in Joao Palhinha

Tottenham Hotspur are interested in a deal to bring Joao Palhinha to the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium in the summer transfer window.

www.footballfancast.com

Anyone seen much of João Palhinha? Seems as if Sporting have some quality CM options

We were linked to him before so probably a rehash of that story. Palhinha's built like a CB and loves a tackle. Decent on the ball as well. I'd say he's better defensively than PEH and more of a threat from set plays. Would be interesting as a LCB option imo but no idea if he'd want to play there. Doubt there's anything to the story though.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

A lot of the clamour for JWP I really just dont get especially for the price. Obviously his set pieces are at an elite level and would be an extremely useful thing to have and if his price tag was 25/30m for example I think it would be a conversation worth having, yet for the mooted 45/50m I think a lot of us would be disappointed to not go for different targets in the CM position.

Laimer, Bissouma, Matheus Nunes, Kalvin Phillips, Carlos Soler etc and numerous others would be more cost effective than JWP.

Especially if Eriksen is being targeted as well as someone like Kostic who are both capable in dead ball situations.

Eriksen, Kostic, Dybala are all very good free kick takers. No one might be AS good as JWP but they are all still very good and certainly all much better footballers outside of that. Yes JWP is better then Winks for example, but that’s not saying an awful lot. All the midfielders you mention are significantly better options imo. Hopefully they keep this stance.

Southampton to warn rivals Ward-Prowse is not for sale this summer

EXCLUSIVE: The England midfielder has enjoyed another excellent season at St Mary's and is a strong candidate to make Gareth Southgate's World Cup squad.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Tucker]

For Tottenham:

8 direct freekicks scored
10 Free-kick assists
10 Corner kick assists.

So that’s 8 free kick goals then. The others listed are what’s called “assists.”

Ward Prowse has scored 14. No one has scored more in the premier league era.

 

[ralphs bald spot]

It's a nonsensical viewpoint to hold isn't it?

We are absolutely crying out for a player to take a quality set piece and yet lo and behold, after being linked with perhaps the best, folk are now looking to reduce him no more than a plodder in midfield offering little to no value.

i would have said that controlling games in midfield and using the ball more progressively is a much bigger concern than having a decent free kick taker - I think Ward Prowse is ok decent enough player but that's about it would he get into any or our rivals side I am not so sure.

My view is that if we are looking for a midfield player we need a player who is better than what we have got I am not sure Ward Prowse is other than he can take a good free kick but that alone shouldn't be a signing criteria as he doesn't address the real problems in midfield barring one

 

[spurs9]

He’s a bit like Hojbjerg. Likes a tackle, puts his body in the line but can stride forwards and pass vertically (as the hipsters say)
I wouldn’t call him an upgrade.
but he’s a nice chap - prefers tea over coffee. Milk no sugar

sorry that’s all I know

Holjberg actually makes twice as many key passed and twice as many dribbles per game than Palhinha. PEH also completes a higher % of forward passes and plays more long balls and through balls than Palhinha too.

I would say Palhinha is more aggressive and a better tackler though and he is an absolute unit.

 

[Japhet]

i would have said that controlling games in midfield and using the ball more progressively is a much bigger concern than having a decent free kick taker - I think Ward Prowse is ok decent enough player but that's about it would he get into any or our rivals side I am not so sure.

My view is that if we are looking for a midfield player we need a player who is better than what we have got I am not sure Ward Prowse is other than he can take a good free kick but that alone shouldn't be a signing criteria as he doesn't address the real problems in midfield barring one

Will probably get shot down in flames for this because I don't know the relative valuations of players, but if Southampton are after 50m (allegedly) for Ward=Prowse, I'd imagine you're somewhere near the same ball park figure for Milenkovic-Savic who would be an absolutely stellar signing who would tick every box.

Edit; I'd also add that I don't think we'd go anywhere near 50m for Ward-Prowse.

 

[spurs9]

So that’s 8 free kick goals then. The others listed are what’s called “assists.”

Ward Prowse has scored 14. No one has scored more in the premier league era.

JWP has also played more PL games than Eriksen and whilst JWP has a better average per game, it's a difference of under 1 goal per season. Overall Eriksen has more goals and more assists in less games.

Neither would work in a CM2 in Conte's system anyway.

 

[cider spurs]

Oh go on then.

My onions on the JWP links.

No doubting his dead ball delivery is exceptional, but I'm not truly sold on his other attributes to propel us to a more robust and higher level team.

My thinking is he's more of a luxury signing for us, and I personally don't think we are in a position to pay circa 50m on luxury as of yet.

Of course a few goals from set pieces could make a difference, but I guess I'm hoping for someone who excels in other departments to a greater degree than JWP.

 

[Retoanderik88]

People are really going at it over JWP.

JWP would be an option, at the moment we have very limited options both in central mid, and on the wing. He'd be a significant improvement on Winks at least and would allow rotation of bentacur and potentially kulu.

 

[ralphs bald spot]

Will probably get shot down in flames for this because I don't know the relative valuations of players, but if Southampton are after 50m (allegedly) for Ward=Prowse, I'd imagine you're somewhere near the same ball park figure for Milenkovic-Savic who would be an absolutely stellar signing who would tick every box.

he is a good player can dominate a game he would be an upgrade on any our midfielders -

personally I would look at Sabitzer had a poor time at Bayern but there is no shame in that and his price would reflect it I think he would fit into Conte's hard running style very easily - he scores i(a goal threat is something our midfield sorely lacks) he is quite versatile and he can use the ball might not be a sexy signing but I am not certain that's what we need

 

[ralphs bald spot]

Here is another midfield player who wouldn't be hugely expensive Sangare at PSV he had a brilliant African Nations giant of a man has an engine and he is decent on the ball