Summer Transfer Wish List - 2017

[allpaths]

is another project player really what we need at this point though? what happens to winks if tielemans comes in? i know players like him are what this club is built on but i think we need to just capitalise on the position the club currently finds itself in. 20m+ on a player that hasn't really proven anything yet is a lot of money, if we're targeting central midfielders then i'd rather it went towards someone who could instantly take the team up another level. i'll watch tielemans again in the 2nd leg, hopefully he shows a bit more than he has on the admittedly few occasions i've seen him.

I understand it's tougher to develop players in an established sides, but it's not like tielemans is some raw prospect we would be taking a punt on, he's a highly rated youth international who has more than 150 senior club appearances, his development and journey to reaching maturity is far along.
Tielemans shouldn't take time away from winks because imo winks is better than youri in a deeper #8 role, so if tielemans was to singed it'd be purely as an eriksen backup.
If not tielemans then who, there isn't a lot of quality out there and there isn't really a better option in the prem besides maybe lanzini but there's no possibility of signing him. So any senior ready to play signing we could make can easily be more of a sissoko or soldaldo and I'd rather take that chance on a young kid like tielemans.
I've watched anderlecht as much as I can and there's plenty of times I'd like to see tielemans on the ball dictating play, but then there's plenty of other times when u can understand the hype and the talent shines through. Don't think there's anything to worry about if we sign him.

 

[spurs9]

just got done watching anderlecht and tielemans was ... underwhelming, it's not the first time i've been left feeling that way having watched him either. he did a disciplined job in central midfield but i failed to see what he was really bringing to the team. defensively it was dendoncker doing most of the work whilst tielemans was just kind of there, offered very little going forward, nothing special in possession and got caught a couple of times dithering on the ball. obviously at 19/20 he's a work in progress but from what i've seen so far people are being very premature in thinking he could make a big impact on our first team .. sorry to piss on everyone's sparklers.

TBF, if someone only saw Kane's performances in the Europa league in the last 2 seasons, they would probably think he was underwhelming and not worth signing. I don't think we need to sign a CM in the summer, but if we did, I would be happy with Tielemans.

 

[eddiev14]

If you looked at Gabbiadini playing in Serie A recently you'd have been underwhelmed, I am reliably informed by an Italian friend.

However, he moves over to England, a new challenge, new style of play and it has transformed him.

Tielmans may just need a move away from that league. Certainly a couple of years ago I watched him and he looked a fantastic young player.

 

[am_yisrael_chai]

I understand it's tougher to develop players in an established sides, but it's not like tielemans is some raw prospect we would be taking a punt on, he's a highly rated youth international who has more than 150 senior club appearances, his development and journey to reaching maturity is far along.
Tielemans shouldn't take time away from winks because imo winks is better than youri in a deeper #8 role, so if tielemans was to singed it'd be purely as an eriksen backup.
If not tielemans then who, there isn't a lot of quality out there and there isn't really a better option in the prem besides maybe lanzini but there's no possibility of signing him. So any senior ready to play signing we could make can easily be more of a sissoko or soldaldo and I'd rather take that chance on a young kid like tielemans.
I've watched anderlecht as much as I can and there's plenty of times I'd like to see tielemans on the ball dictating play, but then there's plenty of other times when u can understand the hype and the talent shines through. Don't think there's anything to worry about if we sign him.

Would prefer Klaassen over Tielemans, probably cheaper too. Obviously Isco would be way better than either of them.

 

[allpaths]

Would prefer Klaassen over Tielemans, probably cheaper too. Obviously Isco would be way better than either of them.

If we could get Isco he'd be a no brainer, but it's highly unlikely and we can't waste time waiting around to see if Isco is available and if he is would he want to come to us. Klaassen is a year younger then eriksen, and I haven't watched that much of Ajax this year, but if klaassen was anything better than average I don't think he'd still be at Ajax. Just a personal opinion and at this point I very biased but I rated tielemans a lot in general, and especially campared to klaassen.

 

[Hercules]

If we could get Isco he'd be a no brainer, but it's highly unlikely and we can't waste time waiting around to see if Isco is available and if he is would he want to come to us. Klaassen is a year younger then eriksen, and I haven't watched that much of Ajax this year, but if klaassen was anything better than average I don't think he'd still be at Ajax. Just a personal opinion and at this point I very biased but I rated tielemans a lot in general, and especially campared to klaassen.

Klaassen is good, but not brilliant. Tielemans potentially is mad. I don't get folks who are underwhelmed by him. Have him all day.

 

[guy]

New contract for Ben Davies, probably the end of any possibility of signing Shaw (if there was any). Sessegnon buy and loan still on the cards hopefully

 

[danielneeds]

I imagine @Bus-Conductor - you particularly enjoyed those goals by Tolisso, Lacazette and Fekir against Roma last night? Lol...

 

[raymundo-iow]

News that Douglas costa wants out at Bayern, he could be our mane signing. He runs at people with pace and has a deadly finish on him. Easier transition from the German league and 26 years old. He can play across the 3 behind kane and offers that something different

 

[tiger666]

News that Douglas costa wants out at Bayern, he could be our mane signing. He runs at people with pace and has a deadly finish on him. Easier transition from the German league and 26 years old. He can play across the 3 behind kane and offers that something different

He wants to be starting more games:

"Main factor is minutes played. Being a core player is a crucial difference in my career."

We don't play 3 behind Kane now so he won't get that here.

 

[danielneeds]

He wants to be starting more games:

"Main factor is minutes played. Being a core player is a crucial difference in my career."

We don't play 3 behind Kane now so he won't get that here.

Will want big wages, and the fee won't be insignificant too. Out of our league financially.

 

[mill]

He wants to be starting more games:

"Main factor is minutes played. Being a core player is a crucial difference in my career."

We don't play 3 behind Kane now so he won't get that here.

Who's to say if we sign a high quality attacking player we won't return to 4231? The switch this season seems to be about getting the best out of the available squad depending on recruitment that could quite easily change again

 

[Max123]

Has anyone else come across Maxime Lopez for Marseille this season? A quick, intelligent, Bernardo Silva-esque player, with long range passes in in his locker. Only 19 years of age but showing quality far beyond his years. Whether hes attainable is another question entirely, considering Marseilles new ambitious owners.

I know, I know, its a highlights reel, but it should hopefully give you a feel for the type of player he is:

 

[Spursh]

Just to further to eddiev14's excellent post a few pages back, I had a look at some other players with 12 months left on their contracts this Summer from around Europe, including the ones he mentioned.


(Information from transfermarkt.com)

Premier League

Alexis Sanchez, 28, Arsenal, ATT
Mesut Ozil, 28, Arsenal, MID
Aaron Ramsey, 26, Arsenal, MID
Juan Mata, 28, Man Utd, MID
Ander Herrera, 27, Man Utd, MID
Ross Barkley, 23, Everton, MID
Daley Blind, 26, Man Utd, DEF
Luke Shaw, 21, Man Utd, DEF
Zlatan Ibrahimovic, 35, Man Utd, DEF (Ending this Summer)
Santi Cazorla, 32, Arsenal, MID (Ending this Summer)
Yaya Toure, 33, Man City, MID (Ending this Summer)
Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, 23, Arsenal, MID
Emre Can, 23, Liverpool, MID
Michael Keane, 24, Burnley, DEF
Andre Gray, 25, Burnley, ATT
Andrew Robertson, 22, Hull, DEF

La Liga

Lionel Messi, 29, Barcelona, ATT
Andres Iniesta, 32, Barcelona, MID
Isco, 24, Real Madrid, MID
Jose Gimenez, 22, At Madrid, DEF
Mateo Musacchio, 26, Villarreal, DEF

Serie A

Dries Mertens, 29, Napoli, ATT
Stefan de Vrij, 25, Lazio, DEF
Gianluigi Donnarumma, 18, AC Milan, GK
Keita Balde, 21, Lazio, ATT
Kevin Strootman, 27, Roma, MID
Faouzi Ghoulam, 26, Napoli, DEF
Milan Badelj, 28, Fiorentina, MID
Kwadwo Asamoah, 28, Juventus, MID
Mattia De Sciglio, 24, AC Milan, DEF

Bundesliga

Chicharito, 28, B Leverkusen, ATT
Leon Goretzka, 22, Schalke, MID
Max Meyer, 21, Schalke, MID
Mahmoud Dahoud, 21, Gladbach, MID
Sead Kolasinac, 23, Schalke, DEF
Luiz Gustavo, 29, Wolfsburg, MID

Ligue 1

Edinson Cavani, 30, PSG, ATT
Blaise Matuidi, 31, PSG, MID
Joao Moutinho, 30, Monaco, MID
Radamel Falcao, 31, Monaco, ATT
Maxime Gonalons, 27, Lyon, MID
Alassane Plea, 23, Nice, ATT
Vincent Koziello, 21, Nice, MID
Jean-Kevin Augustin, 19, PSG, ATT


Obviously there are some names we could never attract (included just out of interest), but there are players in that list we could realistically target who would improve our 1st XI/squad, and ones who I'm sure Levy would relish trying to do cut-price deals for (e.g. Wanyama).

My two pennies on the list of players with only a year left on their contracts posted a few days backs, and other players who could improve us:

If we persevere with our current formation, I believe we'll need to sign another CB, a CM and a striker. We may also need to sign another LWB and a AM, but I think that depends on the future of Wimmer (as I think Davies will eventually become more suited to that LCB role, a position he performed so well for Wales at the Euros) and Lamela/Son.

For CB, I think CCV has that RCB position covered, and either Wimmer or Davies for the LCB role. But we don't have someone who can step in for Alderweireld. His passing from deep is important to the way we play, so we need a defender with good distribution and is comfortable on the ball. Michael Keane has had a fantastic season at Burnley and is definitely an option, as is Stefan de Vrij at Lazio, who'd be ready-made for that role IMO, and would challenge Dier for that RCB position too.

Currently, we only have Winks covering both our midfield spots. Unless Onomah steps upto the plate, we definitely need to bring in another CM in the Summer, especially to cover our main defensive player, Wanyama. From the list, Mahmoud Dahoud would be my pick, although he has been heavily linked with Dortmund and Chelsea recently. A clever passer with skill to evade his man and the defensive discipline and athletic dynamism to fit into Poch's midfield. Of players outside of the list, Tielemans is a name mentioned a lot, especially with the goals and assists he's chalked up this season, but could we compete with most of Europe's superclubs for him? Same situation with Atalanta's Frank Kessie.

It's rather obvious that Janssen has failed to make the grade unfortunately, so I'm sure we'll be looking at bringing in another understudy striker this Summer. Of the players listed, I'd try for Jean-Kevin Augustin at PSG, a very highy rated forward. If not, I like what I've seen of Kasper Dolberg at Ajax (not on list).

They are the major positions we need to cover, but as mentioned before, I think we may need to bolster that left wing-back position and potentially bring in another attacking midfielder. For LWB, many have mentioned Fulham's Ryan Sessegnon, but of the players listed, Andrew Robertson at Hull could be an interesting option. Another young prospect is Celtic's Kieran Tiernay (not on list).

As for attacking midfield, much will depend on the futures of Lamela and Son. Erik's future could well be in doubt considering the past 4/5 months, and Son has lost his place since our formation change. We also have young Edwards coming through, another factor to ponder if we do target players in this position. From the list, Lazio's Keita Balde is a name that stands out, but I'd like us to make a move for Ross Barkley. He was outstanding against us recently, hardly putting a foot wrong. We struggled to get the ball of him all game, and his decision-making in the passes he made had improved markedly since I last saw him live. He has definitely matured as a player, and I can imagine Poch would relish trying to unlock his further potential.

 

[belsunz]

Stefan De Vrij has been linked with moves to Bayern and Chelsea in the last transfer window, with a transfer fee rumoured to be around 35 M euros. Only paper talk of course, but he'll go for big money i think. Doubt we'll pay that much for a defender while only needing a back-up for Toby, with Dier and CCV already at the club.

Especially given Davies' new contract, the only move in defence I expect is Wimmer out and a left-footed center defender in.

 

[GetSpurredOn]

Stefan De Vrij has been linked with moves to Bayern and Chelsea in the last transfer window, with a transfer fee rumoured to be around 35 M euros. Only paper talk of course, but he'll go for big money i think. Doubt we'll pay that much for a defender while only needing a back-up for Toby, with Dier and CCV already at the club.

Especially given Davies' new contract, the only move in defence I expect is Wimmer out and a left-footed center defender in.

I do wonder if the LCB position will actually be covered by Davies, and Wimmer going will be replaced by a genuine LWB option. Having Davies around could free us up to look at a younger prospect like Sessegnon knowing we still have Davies if we think Sessegnon is still a bit raw for higher profile games.
Agree though, the position that really needs covering is the central role of the three. CCV covers RCB behind Dier, and I now assume Davies will cover behind Jan. Room for a Toby understudy.
Alternative thought is we go for a high profile player like De Vrij with the intention of playing him in the middle, moving Toby to RCB where we know he's equally as comfortable, allowing Dier to return to competing with Wanyama for CDM. Then if De Vrij is unavailable we just slide Toby into the middle, with CCV stepping into RCB.

 

[Spursh]

Last transfer window, De Vrij could well have fetched £25m+, but come the Summer, with only a year left on his contract, Lazio will not be in a position to demand as much.

And I agree with @GetSpurredOn, I think Davies' eventual position will be LCB, freeing up us to bring for a more dynamic and athletic understudy at LWB, one more akin to the way Rose plays.

 

[dovahkiin]

ali z on bruma: Watched him a lot lately obvs only Turkish lg but looks special

 

[MattPhilpott]

Will want big wages, and the fee won't be insignificant too. Out of our league financially.

The only thing I can hope with Dougie Costa is that he is this summers Hot Topic and hopefully distracts the big boys from Isco, I know they aren't exactly identical players, but it's that high-profile attacker that the likes of City and Arsenal could be all over, which hopefully paves our way for Isco

 

[Nerine]

Hilarious, this thread.